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Date Posted: 19:12:59 02/12/09 Thu
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Re: Cities of America by Nationals, Inc pageant
In reply to:
's message, "Cities of America by Nationals, Inc pageant" on 06:55:45 06/20/03 Fri
We participated in Ohio and it was definitely a rip off. I actually knew one of the judges (we used to work together) but he did not know my daughter. I contacted him aftwerward to find out more. He judges for other pageants incl Miss America. He said that they got very little instruction at this pageant, and that judging for this pageant is kind of an afterthought. More of a cattle call. The man that was the "chorographer" was an old guy in a sport coat (because he is fat) with a goatee who gripes and shouts at the girls. Not professional, not appropriate, not even good at what he does. The stage is just a theater stage, there is no good setup, very unimpressive. It looks like they just showed up that day and said "start!" The show itself is boring and repetitive. The ask the exact same inane question of 300 girls in a row. Unbelieveable. There were no suitable dressing room facilities for the girls. Only changing are for about 15 girls, plus a dark hot hallway which was the unsecured and unprivate dressing area for 300 girls. they sat on the dirty floor in their long dresses waiting for up to two hours to go on stage for 5 minutes. Very sad. I tried to put a good face on it, but my daughter was crying and disillusioned. She saw how phony it was and she was only 12.
I also saw a press release on the girl that ended up winning nationals and did a posting. The "sporty car" is a tiny little car of little value. It is pretty much winner take all, and it is not that much to get. The supposed "$20,000" at our city pageant was mostly discounts off the purchase of a modeling course. It was not real awards - just puffery. They sold our names and phone numbers to a modeling company who then called us and pressured us to come in and "be discovered" whilst paying $1,200 for a modeling course. The sad thing is that so many people fall for this pageant and get scammed. We did. This pageant is indeed a scam and is not the real thing.
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Re: Cities of America by Nationals, Inc pageant -- Anonymous, 19:25:19 02/12/09 Thu
BY THE WAY, YOU OFFICE PEOPLE AT NATIONALS, INC. / CITIES OF AMERICA, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE FOOLED BY THE POSITIVE POSTINGS THAT Y0U PEPPERED THIS BOARD WITH. IT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS BY THE WAY THEY ARE WRITTEN THAT YOU DID THE WRITING.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO WORK FOR THIS COMPANY. YOU KNOW THAT NATIONALS INC LIES AND LIES TO THESE GIRLS AND FAMILIES. GET AWAY FROM THIS SHAM COMPANY WHILE YOU CAN AND GET A REAL JOB DOING GOOD THINGS FOR PEOPLE INSTEAD OF LYING TO THEM AND CHEATING THEM.
EVER WONDER WHY YOUR OWNER HAS GONE OUT OF BUSINESS THREE TIMES (i have done some research). HE LEAVES PEOPLE HOLDING THE BAG AND THEN STARTS UP AGAIN UNDER A NEW NAME. HIS NAME IS JOE, RIGHT?!
EVER WONDER WHY HE SKIPS A YEAR BETWEEN CITIES. AFRAID OF AN ANGRY MOB FROM LAST YEAR, I'LL BET.
EVER WONDER WHY THERE IS NO SCHEDULE OF CITIES ON THE WEBSITE. HE IS IN AND OUT. NO TRACE. NO TAXES.
EVER WONDER WHY THE ACTUAL PRIZES TO BE GIVEN OUT ARE NOT LISTED, JUST SPOKEN. THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE FLUFF.
EVER WONDER WHY YOUR PAGEANT IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU?
EVER WONDER WHY THEY ARE NOT RECOGNIZED AS A LEGITIMATE PAGEANT?
EVERY WONDER WHAT EFFECT YOU HAVE ON INNOCENT GIRLS AS YOU TALK AT YOUR INFORMATION SESSION ABOUT THE MEDIA BEING AT THEIR PAGEANT TO FILM, AND THEY CAN BE DISCOVERED. YOU KNOW THAT IS A CROC. WHY DO YOU SAY IT?
STOP FLEECING YOUNG GIRLS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
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Re: Cities of America by Nationals, Inc pageant -- Anonymous, 18:26:10 05/18/10 Tue
>BY THE WAY, YOU OFFICE PEOPLE AT NATIONALS, INC. /
>CITIES OF AMERICA, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE FOOLED BY THE
>POSITIVE POSTINGS THAT Y0U PEPPERED THIS BOARD WITH.
>IT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS BY THE WAY THEY ARE WRITTEN THAT
>YOU DID THE WRITING.
>
>YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO WORK FOR THIS COMPANY. YOU
>KNOW THAT NATIONALS INC LIES AND LIES TO THESE GIRLS
>AND FAMILIES. GET AWAY FROM THIS SHAM COMPANY WHILE
>YOU CAN AND GET A REAL JOB DOING GOOD THINGS FOR
>PEOPLE INSTEAD OF LYING TO THEM AND CHEATING THEM.
>
>EVER WONDER WHY YOUR OWNER HAS GONE OUT OF BUSINESS
>THREE TIMES (i have done some research). HE LEAVES
>PEOPLE HOLDING THE BAG AND THEN STARTS UP AGAIN UNDER
>A NEW NAME. HIS NAME IS JOE, RIGHT?!
>
>EVER WONDER WHY HE SKIPS A YEAR BETWEEN CITIES. AFRAID
>OF AN ANGRY MOB FROM LAST YEAR, I'LL BET.
>
>EVER WONDER WHY THERE IS NO SCHEDULE OF CITIES ON THE
>WEBSITE. HE IS IN AND OUT. NO TRACE. NO TAXES.
>
>EVER WONDER WHY THE ACTUAL PRIZES TO BE GIVEN OUT ARE
>NOT LISTED, JUST SPOKEN. THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE
>FLUFF.
>
>EVER WONDER WHY YOUR PAGEANT IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE
>BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU?
>
>EVER WONDER WHY THEY ARE NOT RECOGNIZED AS A
>LEGITIMATE PAGEANT?
>
>EVERY WONDER WHAT EFFECT YOU HAVE ON INNOCENT GIRLS AS
>YOU TALK AT YOUR INFORMATION SESSION ABOUT THE MEDIA
>BEING AT THEIR PAGEANT TO FILM, AND THEY CAN BE
>DISCOVERED. YOU KNOW THAT IS A CROC. WHY DO YOU SAY IT?
>
>STOP FLEECING YOUNG GIRLS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
AMEN and HALLELUHIAH, you have no idea how absolutely correct you are in every statement you have posted, it is a scam, it is all about the money and that's all it's about. They do lie about EVERYTHING, and if you call them, no matter who you speak to they all tell the same lies, it is drilled into their heads, they have a script concerning the lies they are supposed to tell. And whatever you do, DON'T ever think you are going to call the office and be able to speak to the "Office Manager" because she avoids getting on the phone to anyone, EVER!!! In my opinion they are absolutely corrupt in every single aspect of this so called business. Stay away, tell everyone you know to stay away, shut them down once and for all.
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