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Subject: ok...

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phil

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Date Posted: 00:31:09 02/24/02 Sun
In reply to: Ponyboy 's message, "hello Dr. Doolittle....welcome back." on 13:56:17 02/21/02 Thu

>how did humans develop guilt?! this is an
>>impossibility.
>
> Not really. Guilt is a negative expression of
>one's disgust at having committed an immoral act.
>Thus, a definition of morality and whether or not it
>is universal must arise. I argue that morality is
>universal.

i agree
> Furthermore, I argue that morality is
>contingent on punishment. Punishment forms the basis
>of one's moral actions and thus belief system (what I
>believe to be moral vs what you believe to be moral
>may be different based on the punishment received
>throughout life).
>
how was punishment invented it must have been handed down from somewhere? it didnt just Pop up. again establishing a higher entity.

Whole societies can therefore develop morality
>quite differently from other societies. What do you
>find impossible so far?
> where does the idea of society come from? instinct? and if so are we instinctively punishing the guilty? and if so..... do other animals feel they have the right to punish their peers........ how far does this go?
>
>there would be no feeling bad about
>>what anyone did because there would be absolutely no
>>right or wrong..
>
he did create this utopia but humans screwed it up by excersising free will and falling into temptation....... the first sin introduced guilt.... >
>

guilt perhaps does stem from punishment.... that is why your dog looks guilty but your dog committing the different act without you as its master would not feel guilty about doing whatever you deem as bad... since you are his master he feels guilt based on his punishment.
who punished us? the monkeys who were our ancestors?>

>now my answer is an
>>outside force must have acted upon this place to give
>>a sense of right/wrong
>
any other theories?

phil
p.s. i enjoy debating with you i am learning from you as i hope you are learning from me... keep posting.

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Subject	Author	Date
Well done!	ponyboy	05:46:48 02/24/02 Sun

testing......	ponyboy	17:39:04 03/13/02 Wed

testing 2	p	17:42:23 03/13/02 Wed

testing 3	p	17:43:49 03/13/02 Wed
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