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Subject: Boycott Terrorism - Pass this on... Author: Kevin Dougherty [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 10:07:30 04/12/02 Fri Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from. Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 -8/31/01). Shell 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco 144,332,000 barrels Exxon/Mobil 130,082,000 barrels Marathon 117,740,000 barrels Amoco 62,231,000 barrels If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! Here are some large companies that [B] do not import Middle Eastern oil [/B]: Citgo 0 barrels Sunoco 0 Conoco 0 Sinclair 0 BP/Phillips 0 All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and can be easily documented. Refineries located in the U.S. are required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. They report on a monthly basis. Keep this list in your car; share it with friends. Stop paying for terrorism FEEL FREE TO POST ON PNS [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: ON the other hand!! Author: bannee [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:08:46 04/12/02 Fri How many true-blue AMERICAN franchise owners are MUCH more impacted by this than any Saudi investor? Nice idea... I'm no economist, but I would guess any significant impact would be unlikely, and in the meantime Joe Johnson loses business, even though he has NO control whatsoever over where the gas he sells comes from

[> [> Subject: Point taken, but... Author: Kevin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:56:33 04/12/02 Fri >How many true-blue AMERICAN franchise owners are MUCH >more impacted by this than any Saudi investor? > Not everybody is going to do this anyway. We have millions of Muslims and sympathizers right here in good ole USA that will continue to support these companies. Additionally, these companies can 'see the light' and start buying oil from non ME sources?? It is a subtle message, but might influence big companies to start buying there oil from other places... I'd of course rather we get away from oil altogether, but that will take longer...

[> [> Subject: additionally... Author: Kevin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:12:34 04/12/02 Fri Most stations sell so much more than just gas now anyway. And the large companies can be influenced to start buying non ME gas if there is public support. JOE Franchisee won't be overly hurt by this and the big companies will start using non ME sources fairly darn quick if they see the population is calling for it.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: additionally... Author: bannee [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:22:18 04/12/02 Fri Not many people will go to the mini-mart at Exxon if they are getting their gas at Sinclair, so your logic is faulty. Of COURSE it FEELS good, to THINK you're hurting the enemy. (I'd love to kick them below the financial belt) BUT, this endeavor hurts the WRONG people... local businessmen take the brunt of the financial loss, and the ME oil tycoon feels AT MOST a teeney tiny blip which will be immediately resolved by selling elsewhere. Oil is too global of a market for tiny local boycotts to have impact on anybody other than the local guy trying to make a living. This boycott is more likely to result in college students who work at the mini-mart counter getting laid off, than hurting the financial portfolio of any ME oil tycoon/investor

[> [> [> [> Subject: Alternatively... Author: bannee [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:25:17 04/12/02 Fri you could dump all your stocks and mutual funds that invest in Exxon, et. THAT would be a clearer, louder more meaningful statement, that's for sure. But, that would likely impose a financial loss on YOURSELF instead of on Joe Franchise. Still willling? hmmmm?

[> Subject: Re: Boycott Terrorism - Pass this on... Author: Naresh [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:23:59 04/12/02 Fri >Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting >more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy >from gas companies that don't import their oil from >the Saudis. > > Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that >every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money >to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and >my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you >to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas >from. > >Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil (for >the period 9/1/00 -8/31/01). > > Shell 205,742,000 barrels > Chevron/Texaco 144,332,000 barrels > Exxon/Mobil 130,082,000 barrels > Marathon 117,740,000 barrels > Amoco 62,231,000 barrels > > If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports >amount to over $18 >BILLION! > > > Here are some large companies that [B] do not import >Middle Eastern oil [/B]: > > Citgo 0 barrels > Sunoco 0 > Conoco 0 > Sinclair 0 > BP/Phillips 0 > > All of this information is available from the >Department of Energy and can be easily documented. >Refineries located in the U.S. are required to state >where they get their oil and how much they are >importing. They report on a monthly basis. > > Keep this list in your car; share it with friends. >Stop paying for terrorism > >FEEL FREE TO POST ON PNS Kevin - It is BEEPEE for me ( I have Boycotted Terrorism for over 20 years without realizing it ) Keep up the Good Work Naresh

[> Subject: Re: Boycott Terrorism - Pass this on... Author: Philip Cyriac [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:00:34 04/13/02 Sat Kev, I think you are well intentioned, but the fact of the matter is that we cannot go around boycotting products that have affiliation with tainted regimes. Most Americans buy cheap clothes/shoes/electronics made in China which I believe is the most brutal regime of all. In the 1980s Americans did not stop buting diamonds from South Africa which was following the most foul form of governance possible. So, let's not get into this boycott thing which hurts common Americans more than it does to some fatass Sheikhs.

[> [> Subject: Someone told me... Author: Kevin Dougherty [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:58:40 04/15/02 Mon Well, I tried. Just saw that and wanted to put the hurt on the Saudis. However, someone directed me to a site on urban legends where I found that this won't put that big of a dent in these guys pocketbooks anyway. Boo Hoo :( I'd really like to put the hurt on those guys!

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Someone told me... Author: Philip Cyriac [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:35:40 04/15/02 Mon I was once stranded in an airport with a German guy who was with a construction company with 30 years of Middle East experience. He told me that the Saudis are basically lazy people with clannish mentality. Every clan has a Prince and the King disburshes a sum of money to each Prince every year to "take care" of his clan. So, if "Al Schmoe" needs a new house, he just goes to his Prince and gets the cash. That's it. By paying them off, the Prince buys loyalty. similarly, if "Al Joe" feels that he needs to propagate Wahhabi Islam, his Prince gives him a few bucks to get lost. There is no incentive to work or think freely. These guys will get back to tending their Camels and fighting amongst each other once their oil runs out. So, sit tight and let it ride.