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Subject: Re: What happened??


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Oropan
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Date Posted: 10:25:36 11/09/07 Fri
In reply to: billvon 's message, "Re: What happened??" on 09:11:34 11/08/07 Thu

>>Here is why what you suggest will not happen:
>>Highlander hybrid...cost:$33,700 plus taxes and
>>whatever.
>>Prius..............cost:$21,000 plus taxes and
>whatever
>
>Ford Expedition - MSRP $42,000. Which means you can
>get two Priuses for the cost of an Expedition.

Two worthless vehicles are not better than one.


>
>
>>Highlander hybrid is NOT 4wd . . .
>
>It is available in 4WD.

Not listed as available on the Toyota site I looked at.


>
>>it can not be towed behind my MH and neither can the
>Prius.
>
>Both can easily be towed on a front wheel dolly.

Tow dollys are worthless and I would never use one again.



>
>But in any case, why the heck would you tow an SUV
>behind a motorhome? That's like towing a 26' yacht
>behind your 30' motorboat as a dinghy.

Because when I get to AZ I have a vehicle to get around with. Pretty hard to drive into the AZ outback in a MH...infact it is impossible.



>
>>Fuel mileage on the Highlander is 27/32...about the
>>same as my current small SUV that I love.
>
>Yes, some people will cite reasons like "love" for
>their vehicle choices. I am talking about what's
>possible, not what people love. Heck, a lot of people
>"love" hybrids. There are a lot of advantages, like
>totally silent driving, no starting problems, much
>less brake pad wear, less engine maintenance etc.

Why spend the money to get a different vehicle that is just like the one I already have?

>
>>I've said it before here and I'll say it again....It's
>>not the type of vehicle you drive but how much you
>>drive it.
>
>It is, of course, both. If you drive little in an
>Expedition, it's better than driving a lot in a Prius.
> But if you keep your driving habits the same, you are
>better off (in terms of environmental impact) with the
>Prius.

I'm not out to be a one man save the World person.



>
>> My MH make one big trip per year to and from
>>point A to point B and back.
>
>So let's compare.
>
>You make one 3000 mile trip per year (1500 each way)
>in your motorhome. Assuming 6mpg (towing the SUV)
>that's about 500 gallons. And that's without any
>other driving.
>
>My wife and I drive about 8000 miles a year in my car
>(a hybrid.) Total gas used: 200 gallons. (I actually
>use E50 but I won't quibble about whether that's
>really 'gasoline' or not.)

Do you get to spend your winters enjoying the AZ desert and the summers enjoying the woods and waters of N. WI? We all have the things we like to do and the way we do those things. I have no intention of changing the way I enjoy living. Fuel prices are no object for me and I don't buy the manmade global warming nonsense and even if I did I'm not going to make my life less enjoyable so somebody in China can burn more coal to make crap to sell us.



>
>The vehicle definitely make a difference.
>
>>BTW, around here I have never
>>seen a hybid or for that matter a Prius....it would
>>probably get stuck in the snow from the looks of it.
>
>I drove a Honda CRX (a lot worse than the Prius) for
>years in central Massachusetts without too many
>problems. It's mostly technique and equipment (snow
>tires/chains for bad weather.)

Bill, you just have no idea of where I drive. Picture in your mind driving offroad cross country over rocks and through mudholes and crossing streams. The Prius or the Honda just plain won't cut it....period. BTW, I just drove down state to my daughter's house and I passed a Prius stalled along the highway. No idea what the problem was but he was waiting for a wrecker to come and tow him in.



>
>>The highlander would work good here but the hybid is
>>not 4wd which will keep people here from buying it.
>
>It's available in 4WD.

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