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Date Posted: 13:35:42 08/16/04 Mon
Author: Joe
Subject: Re: Holly Lord
In reply to: PSUDAB 's message, "Holly Lord-Reese" on 12:55:45 08/06/04 Fri

In your recollection, was there even an inkling, even a smidge of regret or guilt on the part of the Shafers, that maybe they may have done something wrong to cause Holly Lord to "run away?" Or did they put it all on her?

Where do you think Sam Lee got his material from when he trashed her in a supposed "Bible message"? Surely, Lee didn't just make up this vile slander of Ms. Lord by himself. He must have gotten some input from the Shafers themselves.

>Hi again,
>I don't know very many FACTS about Holly (then) Lord's
>leaving except for the following:
>She sent JLS an e-mail saing "I'm leaving UBF." and
>is it.
>What I'd heard from JLS is that Holly made a decision
>somewhere in Summer 1993 to start talking to those
>of UBF for advice instead of coming to her shepherd(s).
>As a result, they convinced her that she should just
>If she had been willing to talk to her shepherd(s)
>of people outside (who don't know the context of the
>lems), then she would've been able to work through the
>problems the right way.

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