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Date Posted: 11:18:52 03/31/04 Wed
Author: zipp
Subject: Re: HC direction
In reply to: sader1970 's message, "HC direction" on 07:16:03 03/31/04 Wed

1970-
Great to hear about your conversation. However, not to shoot the messenger but in some regards the person you spoke to sounds like they're indicative of the problem at HC. First of all, to even bring up a UNLV type argument shows exactly the type of bias this person has against HC athletics. Next,"one of HC's biggest adjustments to the PL was the expansion of sports programs to 28 and the need to hire all those coaches and staff"? Maybe I missed something, but outside of women's hockey I can't think of a sport we've added in the last decade or two. Furthermore, I can't think of any better way to "brand" than to advertise; and that's exactly one of the things athletics does for a school.

The bottom line is that while some might be encouraged by this conversation, I am not. To me, this conversation as it was presented seems to be more of the "Brooksism" athletics and academics are mutually exclusive mantra. While it may be well intended, that mantra is old, tired and (in my opinion) WRONG.

Having said all of that, thank you for sharing that conversation.

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[> [> Re: HC direction -- dadominate, 11:56:09 03/31/04 Wed

thanks for the informative post sader 1970.

can't see how that could really be taken as a positive though, and i hope your friend in the administration there is in the minority. even bringing up UNLV in a discussion of HC athletics is disappointing as there is no relevance whatsoever to our situation. also pointing out how duke has a problem with their 950 SAT average is discouraging. while we will never get to their level of dominance, the respectable student-athletes and respectable guys that duke has in their outstanding program should be the model for HC, not something to avoid! same goes for vanderbilt, wake, gonzaga, and all the private schools on the smaller end of the spectrum with good student/athletes that have had success on the court and brought notoriety to their schools.

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