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Date Posted: 11:03:09 07/21/04 Wed
Author: HC1843
Subject: "A League of Their Own"
In reply to:
Purple71
's message, "Benefits of the PL and our Ivy Friends" on 09:17:17 07/21/04 Wed
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Re: Benefits of the PL and our Ivy Friends -- Sienafan, 15:20:18 07/21/04 Wed
If I may, I'd just like to add my two cents. A lot of us MAACers would love to have Holy Cross back in the MAAC. You are a strong academic instituion and your athletics are top notch as well. You would not be a drain on the RPI, you would improve it. My understanding is that the MAAC approached you guys, but you were not interested. If you change your mind, give us a call.
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Re: Benefits of the PL and our Ivy Friends -- Purple71, 16:54:25 07/21/04 Wed
The College's new Admissions web page has the following statement:
Our membership in the Patriot League, an NCAA Division 1 League that makes the academic and personal development of each player a high priority, demonstrates our commitment to excellence in learning.
Unfortunately the administrations of the College since Father Brooks have bought into that philosophy rather than the Jesuit tradition of excellence once pursued on all levels at Holy Cross. Father Brooks bought the Ivies' line about wanting to continue to play HC but being unwilling to do so as long as well offered scholarships. Well we just got our wake up call from the ECAC and as BC gets more selective than HC in admissions and Notre Dame graduates a higher percentage of its student athletes, I wonder about the justification of staying mired in the mediocrity of the Patriot League, at least in basketball. For football, it is a great fit as fewer and fewer schools are fielding teams. In hoop, to play before 212 at Colgate is obsurd, given that Colgate apparently voted against our application to join the academicly prestigous ECAC in hockey.
We took the wrong fork in the road a while back and need to rethink our situation. We can have excellence in academics and hoop, it's just that excellence and the Patriot League are opposite ends of the athletic spectrum in terms of Division 1 basketball. Not so in football, but hoops has always been the Cross' signature sport although kids today never heard of Bob Cousy and Tom Heinsohn.
I would trade playing in front of 10,000 in Albany for playing in front of 212 in Hamilton any day. I also don't believe that our academic reputation would suffer from joining the MAAC. I also think the geography of the MAAC makes more sense, particularly if we were to come in for Loyola.
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Re: Benefits of the PL and our Ivy Friends -- Purple fanz, 20:11:19 07/21/04 Wed
Not a bad point, but I think you are wrong in one way - ND does not graduate a higher percent of its athletes than HC.
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Re: Benefits of the PL and our Ivy Friends -- Purple71, 09:10:57 07/22/04 Thu
Don't mean to make too much of it but the ND graduation rate is 92%, as per the NCAA statistics while the HC rate is 90% as per same statistics. See: http://www.holycross.edu/departments/publicaffairs/hcm/fall02/news/gradrate.html.
The point being the those who feel so damn intellectually superior because we are in the PL need a reality check as there are other instituions with excellent academic credentials who manage to play real Division 1 basketball. I recognize that HC doesn't have the resources to engage in D-1 footbal but certainly it has the resources to be competitive in D1 hoops.
However, this is an oft debated point and I am not going to change anyone's mind. The ECAC gave all you PL fans a wake up call and if that doesn't work, nothing will.
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Re: Benefits of the PL and our Ivy Friends -- PROTON, 20:17:46 07/21/04 Wed
My kid is an athlete at Holy Cross. In addition to the academics, part of the appeal was the quality of play in his sport in the Patriot League, even though his team has historically been weak. Much more fun to play Navy, even if you get your butt kicked, than to have a laugher vs. Siena. If Holy Cross was in the MAAC, he wouldn't have applied, either for the academics, or the athletics. No comparison.
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