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Date Posted: 18:30:47 07/12/04 Mon
Author: HC 1991
Subject: Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread?
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Class of '83
's message, "What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread?" on 15:03:41 07/12/04 Mon
don't think he's legit. my gut tells me it' the same QU joker who is just stirring up trouble. If no one from the the Niagra, SH, or Mercyhurst athletic dept. has leaked to a local press guy, then no one really knows. The best people can specualte is to speak to Pearl or Regan and get their impressions, and I don't think they even have an idea. The whole process has been very hush-hush. I've put a link in with the story on the USCHO board. http://www.uscho.com/news/2004/07/12_008601.php
My two cents: QU is not a good academic school and doesn't fit with the Ivy mold. Moreover, I can't see Harvard, Dartmouth, Colgate, Yale, Brown, and Princeton all giving us the shaft after we've been their partners in numerous other sports for so many years. Think about it this way too, we'll get beaten up by all of those teams for a few years until our recruting improves anyway, and they'd rather have a patsy with a good academic profile than one without. No idea on RPI. Clarkson or St. lawrence, i figured they along with Cornell would want Niagra for travel reasons, but now that Niagra is out and it's just us and QU, I think it'll be us. I think the ECAC played both schools off of each other in the process, getting HC to amend their original application to probably include upgares to Hart, the Centrum and wink-wink scholarhsips. At the end of the day, I know Harvard, Dartmouth and Gate would want us, but don't see anyone stumping for QU - and no one means no one. Accordingly, I'd be surprised if it wasn't us.
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Re: QU just not a match for ECAC -- Go...'gate, 19:11:07 07/12/04 Mon
The reality is that when you get down to the key consideration for the ECAC - in reality, academic profile -it only has one choice, which is Holy Cross. QU is a square peg in a round hole. Aren't they essentially the old University of Bridgeport with a new name?
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I still think both get invitations -- JRGNYR, 20:39:10 07/12/04 Mon
Both schools would be good fits for ECAC, I think, and for different reasons. HC academically and for the potential of its hockey program, and Quinnipiac because it already has a pretty solid foundation for a hockey program, and what such a move to the ECAC could do academically for the school.
A move to the ECAC for QU could help academically and raise the university's profile, not unlike what a move up would do for HC basketball. Granted the analogy is not quite the same, it's similar. QU would undoubtedly increase its profile in the north with a move to ECAC (so would HC for that matter). It could perhaps lead to an increase in applications and therefore increase the selectivity of the school. I'm not talking by leaps and bounds, and certainly the spike would not be what it would be should a similar move be made in basketball or football. But it's another indirect positive.
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Re: QU just not a match for ECAC -- Another 65er, 10:06:20 07/13/04 Tue
Quinnipiac is located in Hamden, CT and is not affiliated in any way with the University of Bridgeport. Q has been around for at least 50 years in Hamden, starting as a Division II school once the NCAA divisions were created. Its former basketball coach and athletic director Bert Kahn died last week. Q did acquire the University of Bridgeport law school and move it to its campus in Hamden several years ago. That may the connection you are thinking of.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- Saderman, 19:14:56 07/12/04 Mon
I'm confident that Brown is in our corner, too. Paul Pearl's year of coaching at Brown helped our cause.
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Is this a new reality show? -- KY Crusader '75, 21:15:41 07/12/04 Mon
If Niagara and Mercyhurst are indeed out, dropping one after the other, it almost looks like a new reality show. Who will be the next to go? Who will be the Hockey Survivor? It does seem ridiculous that this committee could take so long to decide, or to announce its decision. I love hearing all the talk about academics, but I worry that the other schools would see QU as "good enough" in academics but a better bet for boosting the conference's RPI....
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Re: Is this a new reality show? -- Saderman, 22:25:10 07/12/04 Mon
It seems clear to me the "delay" relates to the ECAC's determination to gain as many concessions as possible prior to extending an invite to the Cross. Yes, Regan is stubborn, but QU's pockets are empty.
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...but what concessions??? -- HC1843, 22:36:28 07/12/04 Mon
I am not so sure on this one Saderman. If the Q sold them on the pipedream, then they very well might get the invite.
Also, any significant HC amendments would arguably have to go through McFarland and maybe even the board. HC is not that fleet footed.
The fact that this wasn't an easy win early on makes me nervous. Nothing is definite.
Cheers.
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