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Date Posted: 15:03:41 07/12/04 Mon
Author: Class of '83
Subject: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread?
Has the administrator taken off the thread by Saderfan that indicated Quinnipiac is the choice of the ECAC?
I have heard that another committee (policy committee) has yet to vote on which school will be invited - I don't know if this is a rubberstamp or not. A meeting of this committee is to occur today even though there may be no announcement today - does anyone know about this committee? or if the meeting has occured?
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- Rick, 15:33:39 07/12/04 Mon
My guess is that someone stole SaderFan's moniker and it was picked-up by our host here.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- Zipp, 15:57:55 07/12/04 Mon
Class of '83-
You seem to have the best sources by far, what are you hearing?
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- Class of '83, 16:12:03 07/12/04 Mon
From what I have heard - everyone is pretty closed-mouth - which is another way of saying I don't know any more than what I have posted so far. I keep asking, but am not getting much more info. I will post if I hear anything.
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ECAC Press Release: Fairfield Lax added for 2006.. -- HC1843, 16:38:05 07/12/04 Mon
don't tell me these guys aren't d_ _ _ ing aroung with us at this point.
How about a press release someone actually cares about.
Cheers.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- goHChockey, 17:00:29 07/12/04 Mon
My sources tell me that HC will probably NOT receive the invitation from the ECAC...I normally operate under a different moniker, but I can assure you that this comes from a source close to the fray...none of you will believe the reasoning behind the decision...I still can't believe it myself...but to protect my source, I will have to wait for the announcement to reveal the info I have...
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- Class of '83, 17:11:57 07/12/04 Mon
It looks as if the decision has been made - but I have no information of what it is. I do know that it is definitely between Quinnipiac and HC. Niagra just issued a press release which says they have not been chosen (similar to Merceyhurst's). I would guess that the winner knows, but has been told not to say anything. I would expect an official announcement tomorrow.
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One thing IS for sure.... -- Rick, 22:35:01 07/12/04 Mon
If it is announced tomorrow, the news will be everywhere except on HC's website !
First come the emails....then in about a month, a press release....with some quotes attributed to Pearl Bailey as opposed to Paul Pearl.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- Moderator, 18:01:59 07/12/04 Mon
I know Sader Fan and he asked that the fake post using his name be removed.
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Can you confirm that "goHChockey" is legit? -- HC1843, 18:07:13 07/12/04 Mon
not a jab if he is legit but...I am on a need-to-know basis and I need to know. ;-)
Cheers.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- HC 1991, 18:30:47 07/12/04 Mon
don't think he's legit. my gut tells me it' the same QU joker who is just stirring up trouble. If no one from the the Niagra, SH, or Mercyhurst athletic dept. has leaked to a local press guy, then no one really knows. The best people can specualte is to speak to Pearl or Regan and get their impressions, and I don't think they even have an idea. The whole process has been very hush-hush. I've put a link in with the story on the USCHO board. http://www.uscho.com/news/2004/07/12_008601.php
My two cents: QU is not a good academic school and doesn't fit with the Ivy mold. Moreover, I can't see Harvard, Dartmouth, Colgate, Yale, Brown, and Princeton all giving us the shaft after we've been their partners in numerous other sports for so many years. Think about it this way too, we'll get beaten up by all of those teams for a few years until our recruting improves anyway, and they'd rather have a patsy with a good academic profile than one without. No idea on RPI. Clarkson or St. lawrence, i figured they along with Cornell would want Niagra for travel reasons, but now that Niagra is out and it's just us and QU, I think it'll be us. I think the ECAC played both schools off of each other in the process, getting HC to amend their original application to probably include upgares to Hart, the Centrum and wink-wink scholarhsips. At the end of the day, I know Harvard, Dartmouth and Gate would want us, but don't see anyone stumping for QU - and no one means no one. Accordingly, I'd be surprised if it wasn't us.
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Re: QU just not a match for ECAC -- Go...'gate, 19:11:07 07/12/04 Mon
The reality is that when you get down to the key consideration for the ECAC - in reality, academic profile -it only has one choice, which is Holy Cross. QU is a square peg in a round hole. Aren't they essentially the old University of Bridgeport with a new name?
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I still think both get invitations -- JRGNYR, 20:39:10 07/12/04 Mon
Both schools would be good fits for ECAC, I think, and for different reasons. HC academically and for the potential of its hockey program, and Quinnipiac because it already has a pretty solid foundation for a hockey program, and what such a move to the ECAC could do academically for the school.
A move to the ECAC for QU could help academically and raise the university's profile, not unlike what a move up would do for HC basketball. Granted the analogy is not quite the same, it's similar. QU would undoubtedly increase its profile in the north with a move to ECAC (so would HC for that matter). It could perhaps lead to an increase in applications and therefore increase the selectivity of the school. I'm not talking by leaps and bounds, and certainly the spike would not be what it would be should a similar move be made in basketball or football. But it's another indirect positive.
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Re: QU just not a match for ECAC -- Another 65er, 10:06:20 07/13/04 Tue
Quinnipiac is located in Hamden, CT and is not affiliated in any way with the University of Bridgeport. Q has been around for at least 50 years in Hamden, starting as a Division II school once the NCAA divisions were created. Its former basketball coach and athletic director Bert Kahn died last week. Q did acquire the University of Bridgeport law school and move it to its campus in Hamden several years ago. That may the connection you are thinking of.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- Saderman, 19:14:56 07/12/04 Mon
I'm confident that Brown is in our corner, too. Paul Pearl's year of coaching at Brown helped our cause.
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Is this a new reality show? -- KY Crusader '75, 21:15:41 07/12/04 Mon
If Niagara and Mercyhurst are indeed out, dropping one after the other, it almost looks like a new reality show. Who will be the next to go? Who will be the Hockey Survivor? It does seem ridiculous that this committee could take so long to decide, or to announce its decision. I love hearing all the talk about academics, but I worry that the other schools would see QU as "good enough" in academics but a better bet for boosting the conference's RPI....
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Re: Is this a new reality show? -- Saderman, 22:25:10 07/12/04 Mon
It seems clear to me the "delay" relates to the ECAC's determination to gain as many concessions as possible prior to extending an invite to the Cross. Yes, Regan is stubborn, but QU's pockets are empty.
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...but what concessions??? -- HC1843, 22:36:28 07/12/04 Mon
I am not so sure on this one Saderman. If the Q sold them on the pipedream, then they very well might get the invite.
Also, any significant HC amendments would arguably have to go through McFarland and maybe even the board. HC is not that fleet footed.
The fact that this wasn't an easy win early on makes me nervous. Nothing is definite.
Cheers.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- goHChockey, 21:31:04 07/12/04 Mon
I can't say that I blame my colleagues on this board for their suspicions about my identity and, therefore, the credibility of my info, but let me put those to rest. I am an alumnus. There, that cuts it by about 50%. Ask me almost any question re: HC hockey and/or the campus, etc., within reason, and I am sure that I can prove that I am legit. Secondly, I am an ardent supporter of HC's bid to the ECAC. We have no competition, but for the fact that we allowed the other schools to compete.
I almost keeled over when my source told me the info. I don't want to believe it either. Frankly, I can't believe it. Hopefully, the person is pulling my leg. The info just doesn't make sense to me, given the status of some of the other schools in the ECAC.
Let's all say a prayer for HC tonite, and ask our agnostic/atheist brethren at the other ECAC schools to do likewise.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- goHChockey, 21:35:37 07/12/04 Mon
correction: actually, men comprise much more than 50% of all HC alumni, given the changeover in the '70s...
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calling you out for the fraud that you are -- HC 1991, 23:57:54 07/12/04 Mon
If you are privy to such inside info, why not reveal it? why not reveal the source? what do you stand to lose on a web posting board from a college with an installed alumni base of 10,000 and a posting board of maybe 500 to 1000? The answer is not much. Answer all 5 of the questions below and I might belive you're legit.
Name the 5 hill dorms in order starting with the closest dorm to Hogan?
Name the annual event that used to occur at the 1st sonwfall every year and name the 2 dorms who were involved?
What is the name of the tiny theater in the basement of Fenwick/O'Kane?
Name the man (Jesuit priest) who has was a fixture in the Chaplain's department for many years and the type of purple hat he always used to wear?
Name the prof who taught in the foreign language and ran the Kimball theater from the 60s through the 90s?
anyone who spent time at HC should know these. anyone who doesn't is a phony. I'll post the answers tomorrow for the curious.
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Re: calling you out for the fraud that you are -- JRGNYR, 07:15:33 07/13/04 Tue
I can't answer them all either, and I'm a fourth generation legacy. Some things just went under my radar while I was at HC.
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Re: calling you out for the fraud that you are -- Rick, 13:09:47 07/13/04 Tue
'91 -
" If you are privy to such inside info, why not reveal it? why not reveal the source? "
IF the poster is legit, these questions are ridiculous. Reversing the roles, are you saying you'd divulge confidential info and reveal your source ?
" what do you stand to lose on a web posting board from a college with an installed alumni base of 10,000 and a posting board of maybe 500 to 1000? The answer is not much. "
A friend, maybe a long-time friend, even just a 'source' ? How about self respect in the violation of a confidence OR trust ? IF the poster is legit, he's given his WORD to someone. IF he is legit, the only thing I'd fault him on is basically posting an 'I know something you don't know' message which invites this doubt and ridicule.
I'm not sure what 'an installed alumni base of 10,000' means. HC has nearly/over 20,000 living alums, do we not ?
And 'and a posting board of maybe 500 to 1000?'....where, here ? Maybe I'm way off but I doubt we have 40-50 regular unofficial members here - year round.
FWIW, I have no idea what the answers are to ' Name the annual event', 'the name of the tiny theater in the basement of Fenwick/O'Kane' ( only theatre I knew was the one in lower Kimball ), 'Name the man (Jesuit priest) who has was a fixture' or 'Name the prof who taught in the foreign language and ran the Kimball theater'.
I'll wait for the questions on the annual 'fat man's relay races', the 'on-campus ski slope', the 'location of the golf driving range', what we used to 'go sleigh riding on the hills/bumps adjacent to Fenwick' and 'how many confessionals are there in the main Chapel' !
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- sader1970, 06:13:57 07/13/04 Tue
Well, I don't know about anyone else but since I can't answer most of '91's questions, you'll have to list me in the phony column.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- HC'85, 07:13:40 07/13/04 Tue
OK, here's a hint
The chaplain mentioned officated at my wedding.
The answers are a bit more contemporary and geared toward more recent alums. I can name answer all but the one about the basement theater in O'Kane/Fenwick. Though I'm out almost 20 years now, so maybe they are not that contemporary.
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From The USCHO Board-Down to Two -- KY Crusader '75, 08:46:02 07/13/04 Tue
Quinnipiac and Holy Cross are the two schools left standing as the ECAC decides how many, if any, schools to invite into its league. The ECAC has been contemplating expansion since Vermont announced its intention to leave the league for Hockey East as of 2005-06. School officials at Mercyhurst and Niagara both say they were told by ECAC officials this weekend that they were out of the running. Sources indicate that Sacred Heart was told the same thing.
Full Story
Moy: Into The Matrix
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You MUST have a dial-up connection... -- HC1843, 08:58:48 07/13/04 Tue
Just joking around.
Cheers.
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- goHChockey, 10:41:08 07/13/04 Tue
In response to HC 1991's stupid challenge, I'll give it my best shot. But I would have thought that my statement that I believe that HC is the only logical pick for the ECAC and that HC has, regardless of the outcome, been criminally negligent in its behavior in this regard would persuade you that I was legitimate. Don't blame me if my source at HC, who is about as close to the issue as you can get, gave me this distressing info. In any event, the source has provided info, the source's impressions, on a confidential basis. I know that this is not a national security issue, but I am trying to abide by the source's wishes. The source may read this board, and may not be happy to be publicly revealed. Can you understand that! Pretty basic stuff.
1. Healy (seniors, football, BB players), Lehy, Hanselman, Clark and Mulledy (mostly frosh).
2. all I can remember is pelting naked Alumni and Carlin residents with snowballs...maybe I got you! 1991, no, I had already graduated.
3. didn't go to any theater in Fenwick/O'Kane...too busy leading HC to athletic victories...sounds like you admire Father Brooks and you were his kind of HC student (just a guess).
4. who was that fat, drunk Jesuit...that doesn't narrow it down much...oh, LaBran with that stupid cowboy hat.
5. didn't take foreign language and didn't go to Kimball Theater...preferred keg parties in basements of all dorms....you're too young to remember that.
next time, don't bring a knife to a gun fight...
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Re: What Happened to QU Hockey Choice Thread? -- timholycross, 11:24:35 07/13/04 Tue
In my day, Hanselman was the residence hall of choice for most football players.
Healy had the "black corridor" (their choice and their name, if anyone was wondering).
Never could understand how you got "Lehigh" out of Lehy.
Mulledy was the first residence hall used by women.
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