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Ouch that hurt! This is a forum for Irish Dancers to discuss their injuries and aches and pains, in the event that they do happen (which I sincerly hope they don't). This forum is not to be used as a substitute for medical professionals. You should always go to see a doctor if you are in pain!

Subject: Anybody else had this experience?
Author: +++ [Edit]	Date Posted: 04:29:13 07/20/05 Wed My DD injured herself and has been unable to dance for a few months. She was dancing up to 10 hours per week. Since she has stopped she has developed red marks/lines all over her thighs and behind her knees. They appear to be getting worse as time goes on and we are not sure what to do.
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Have you gone to see her pediatrician? (NT) -- would be my first though, 05:20:54 07/20/05 Wed This could be something as simple as stretch marks. -- in time., 01:05:30 07/26/05 Tue I agree.. these sound like stretch marks and may have happened whether your DD stopped dancing or not. I am a very thin gril and got then on my hips and behind my knees just from growing ... can't wait to see what will happen when I get pregnant! :-) (NT) -- Leggs, 08:18:54 08/05/05 Fri Thank you for responses. Have been to doctor. Thankfully she is not concered. But the red marks are unsightly. (NT) -- ++++, 19:21:12 08/06/05 Sat Re: Anybody else had this experience? -- Jenn, 07:40:39 08/28/05 Sun Re: Anybody else had this experience? -- ....., 12:09:08 10/23/05 Sun

Subject: Return to dance
Author: Injured dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 14:45:48 08/17/05 Wed If you are a prelim dancer and have to take about 10 months off because of an injury, are you still in prelims even though you are probably not at that level anymore? What has everyone else done?
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my dd took time off for an injury -- my 2 cents, 16:10:42 08/18/05 Thu Re: my dd took time off for an injury -- OP, 20:02:48 08/18/05 Thu Re: Return to dance -- anonymous, 12:07:45 10/23/05 Sun

Subject: My id fractured her metatarsal. Doctor says in six weeks she should be okay to dance. Anyone out there had experience with this? more inside
Author: ID mom [Edit]	Date Posted: 07:08:37 04/01/05 Fri How long did it take to heal? How did you start back e.g. 1 class weekly for how long etc? What helped ? Thanks
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Re: My id fractured her metatarsal. Doctor says in six weeks she should be okay to dance. Anyone out there had experience with this? more inside -- Shannon, 12:23:38 04/03/05 Sun Which metatarsal? My daughter broke growth plate in 5th and 1 dr. said 2 weeks and 1 said 3 weeks. Unfortunately now broke other foot's 5th metatarsal (closed fracture) and says 3 weeks. If your's is a larger bone or bigger break, it might be longer. -- Susan, 08:56:26 05/12/05 Thu I broke the base of my 5th metatarsal in may, i prob would be dancing by now except that it's not healing properly so i am on a bone stimulator. (NT) -- but normally it heals pretty quickly, 11:35:16 09/14/05 Wed My 11 year old son has just broken the base of his 5th metatarsal -- Teresa Copper, 17:07:27 10/20/05 Thu

Subject: groin injury
Author: Nancy [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:44:12 01/20/05 Thu My 10-year-old son pulled a muscle in his groin about 10 days ago. How long a break from dancing should he take? He says he is feeling no pain now, but he's not stretching or dancing. He is qualified for worlds and doesn't want to risk a reinjury. What are the best stretches or warm-ups to do to avoid a recurrance?
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People pull muscles all the time. I'm an open dancer and I've been dancing for a very long while and I think that if it does not hurt him, he should slowly work back into dancing all the time! (NT) -- Mairead, 13:53:19 10/10/05 Mon

Subject: help with hip pain
Author: mims [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:34:31 07/17/05 Sun hi.. i am an open champ and hip pain is really starting to be a problem..rest does help but i'm wondering what people have had the best results with..chiropractor? exercises? ..what are the possibilites and how did you diagnose? thanks...
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I had this problem not so long ago, I to am an open Champ dancer. Believe it or not the pain wasn't actually coming from my hip (which is what I thought) but instead was coming from my back (more inside) -- XX, 10:58:39 07/31/05 Sun Hi! I am also in open champs and i've had hip problems on and off. what you'll wanna do is go see a physio therapist or stand straight up and relax the side of your body where ur hip hurts, then swing your leg back and forth. its simple but if you do it enough, it'll help!! (NT) -- ke, 13:44:02 10/10/05 Mon

Subject: Upper back compression fractures
Author: help [Edit]	Date Posted: 06:38:14 09/14/05 Wed Has anyone ever been diagnosed with thoracic (upper back) compression fractures. Doc says it's from Irish Dancing. Could we be causing that much damage? Any info. from anyone would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Well I have a herniation and small fracture in my lower back and it's from dancing. (NT) -- so i guess we are causing that much damage, 11:16:39 09/14/05 Wed what did they do for it? has it healed completely now? (NT) -- op, 11:28:57 09/14/05 Wed PT and do dance/sports for 3 months. Fracture has healed, not sure about the herniation. (NT) -- first responder, 20:14:52 09/28/05 Wed i meant NO dance for 3 months (NT) -- oops, 20:15:27 09/28/05 Wed

Subject: I was diagnosed 3 months ago with avascular necrosis which is almost a career ending injury. Anyone else have this and what did you do about it?
Author: sad dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 19:14:42 05/31/05 Tue
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Re: I was diagnosed 3 months ago with avascular necrosis which is almost a career ending injury. Anyone else have this and what did you do about it? -- ooooh what's that ?, 14:35:36 06/06/05 Mon It happens when the blood flow stops to a bone-in this case my sesamoid. The bone then becomes dead and brittle. It was caused by a traumatic injury-namely pounding in hard shoes. (NT) -- OP, 18:54:14 06/22/05 Wed Re: I was diagnosed 3 months ago with avascular necrosis which is almost a career ending injury. Anyone else have this and what did you do about it? -- try SR board, 21:13:39 06/29/05 Wed Re: I was diagnosed 3 months ago with avascular necrosis which is almost a career ending injury. Anyone else have this and what did you do about it? -- try SR board, 21:14:21 06/29/05 Wed I had this a few years ago. I spent a few months in walking boot, then with orthotics and then i was fine. once it was healed i never felt it again. (NT) -- good luck, 11:28:46 09/14/05 Wed Re: I had this a few years ago. I spent a few months in walking boot, then with orthotics and then i was fine. once it was healed i never felt it again. -- OP, 06:15:11 09/22/05 Thu Please e-mail me so I can talk to you about this. We have almost given up hope. The address is inside. -- OP, 12:27:39 09/22/05 Thu I gave you the wrong address. New one is inside.. -- OP, 13:24:32 09/23/05 Fri

Subject: Navicular stress fractures
Author: grace [Edit]	Date Posted: 22:18:55 08/24/05 Wed Hey. I am am irish dancer and I have a navicular stress fracture. I have already had it in plaster for 6 weeks but that didn't work. Now the doctor says that I should get it pinned if i ever want to dance again. So, I am wondering if anygody else has had the same injury. If so i like to know what ended up happening and what things worked.
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Re: Navicular stress fractures -- jigger, 06:33:06 09/14/05 Wed

Subject: Arches
Author: jen [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:32:05 08/22/05 Mon I have been having really bad arch pains. My mom used to dance, but she also had to quit because of the arch pain. But, I went to college last year and only danced about 3X the whole year. Then this summer I came back and danced and taught. Now I'm back at school and I danced the other day, but I had a lot of pain. I'm tryin to see if I can use orthotics (sp?) to put in my shoe. I have bought one that says to help arch pain, but I was seeing if anyone has had this problem and any reccomendations. I also have very high arches.
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Re: Arches -- high arched dancer, 23:48:46 09/05/05 Mon

Subject: I sure wish I could talk to a shoulder specialist RIGHT NOW!!! If anyone is out there that knows, how can you tell if your shoulder is seperated, or torn? My son plays football and is in pain tonight from a bad hit to the shoulder. As usual, the doc say, "oh, we have an appointment a week from Wed.". What is that? Does a person have to go to the ER for everything? Sheesh. Hoping alot of ice and advil help over night.
Author: nutcase [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:25:37 08/16/05 Tue
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That's crazy! more inside -- injury prone, 06:55:59 08/17/05 Wed HELLO, IT'S ME AGAIN! I called again this morning and they squeezed us in!! The two dos I wanted are very popular and booked weeks in advance, so I guess thats why it's hard to get in. My son did seperate his shoulder, but not too badly. (NT) -- only 10 days with no contact in football!, 19:17:40 08/17/05 Wed Re: I sure wish I could talk to a shoulder specialist RIGHT NOW!!! If anyone is out there that knows, how can you tell if your shoulder is seperated, or torn? My son plays football and is in pain tonight from a bad hit to the shoulder. As usual, the doc say, "oh, we have an appointment a week from Wed.". What is that? Does a person have to go to the ER for everything? Sheesh. Hoping alot of ice and advil help over night. -- Orlando mom, 20:25:49 08/24/05 Wed

Subject: Shin splints
Author: Helen (SS [Edit]	Date Posted: 14:25:39 08/08/05 Mon

Subject: I have been dancing for 17 yrs and for the first time ever i think i have shin splints. I know NOTHING about it. Would go to a doctor but with worlds coming up i dont have time, I really just need a quick fix, stretches?. Any suggestions?
Author: help worlds is on the way!! [Edit]	Date Posted: 14:10:43 03/06/05 Sun
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ok. i've had shin splits millions of times...all you need to do is one day on the weekend just tape your legs really TIGHT. start with the inside of the ankle and go out. you can use small strips so that you dont cut off circulation. keep it on for most of the day and make sure to ICE , ELEVATE, and mine usually go away after one or two days of this. also, DO NOT SLEEP WITH THE TAPE ON!!! (NT) -- Kimmie, 18:21:31 03/07/05 Mon I wanted to add something to this, never ever elevate shin splints! -- Shannon, 12:45:42 04/03/05 Sun Re: I wanted to add something to this, never ever elevate shin splints! -- Dom, 13:22:17 08/08/05 Mon Re: I wanted to add something to this, never ever elevate shin splints! -- Dom, 13:22:53 08/08/05 Mon

Subject: back of heel HURTS! ! ! !
Author: lizibean [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:14:46 06/20/05 Mon i have been a dancer for 5 years and ive never had this problem before. after dance class, the back of my heel hurts and for the rest of the night when i walk it hurts, but then the next day it feels better. do u have any suggestions on what i should do??? THANKS A BUNCH!
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Re: back of heel HURTS! ! ! ! -- erin, 08:00:02 06/22/05 Wed Re: back of heel HURTS! ! ! ! -- HEEL PAIN TOO, 21:10:24 06/29/05 Wed Re: back of heel HURTS! ! ! ! -- puggylover, 15:59:46 07/07/05 Thu Re: back of heel HURTS! ! ! ! -- puggylover, 16:00:23 07/07/05 Thu Re: back of heel HURTS! ! ! ! -- jellybelly1991, 07:07:13 07/26/05 Tue

Subject: Jubilee floors? Anyone know a website?
Author: FeishinAround [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:18:21 10/11/04 Mon Does anyone have this floor? Do you like it? Does it help? Can someone point me to the website? Thanks!
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Re: Jubilee floors? Anyone know a website? -- FeishinAround, 18:19:50 10/11/04 Mon http://www.jubileedancefloor.com/ (NT) -- here ya go....., 16:21:23 10/12/04 Tue These floors become slippery (more) -- dance mom, 08:42:40 10/16/04 Sat issue with floors -- dancemom, 11:59:27 07/22/05 Fri These floors become slippery (more) -- dance mom, 08:43:16 10/16/04 Sat i have the floor, we started with 4 panels, too small. we ended up getting 9, perfect size. we layed it on a concrete floor in the basement, providing just enough cushion. the sound is wonderful. easy to set up. (NT) -- very happy w/product, 05:43:02 11/14/04 Sun

Subject: Foot problem - dropped talus
Author: janie [Edit]	Date Posted: 23:24:04 07/16/05 Sat anyone have this problem? Any advice?

Subject: just found out i can't dance for a month
Author: upset dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:25:08 12/03/04 Fri For a week my anckle was hurting and i wasn't dancing my best on it. We went to the doctor and he told us I could have torn a tendon or something so we went to a foot doctor and he says to rest it for at least 2-3 weeks, soak it in warm/hot water, and take so medications. So I'm hoping to be better by Winter Feis. And if I can I plan to work and practice like crazy for the 2 weeks I will be able to dance before the feis. But at least I get to sit out of gym class.
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:-( i am also going to winter feis and i hope your feeling better by then, good luck! -- Midwest American Irish Dancer, 17:45:26 12/06/04 Mon Re: just found out i can't dance for a month -- hope u get better, 18:23:12 01/13/05 Thu Hey, I'm the girl who post this message, and i just want to say that my foot got better before winter feis and i ended up getting a first there, so I'm really happy that i was able to dance! :) (NT) -- My foot got better!, 06:23:48 06/14/05 Tue

Subject: hip problems
Author: dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 07:02:42 10/25/04 Mon I have been having a lot of trouble with my hips recently. They seem to almost pop in and out when I do different things, especially when I am doing stuff many times (swiches on the floor, getting up after sitting, etc.) It dosnt really hurt when I do it, but the next day or so the muscle seems to be really sore. I asked my dad (who has had every injury possible throughout his life) and he thinks that the muscles arent stong enough. Do you think he is rihgt? and if so what are some stregnhthing exercises i could do. Thanks
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once my hip just kept dislocating for some odd reason and I had no idea why. it just kept popping out even when I walked, and it really hurt! so my daddy told me to stand next to a wall and swing my leg back and forward until Id moved it back into place. and it worked! maybe try that? and also it could be tendons overlapping and clicking out of place. I had that earlier this year and yes, it was because of my muscles not being strong enough. so my physio have me exercises to do, and so far its been fine. make sure you get it checked out. Good Luck!!! (NT) -- I hope it gets better soon :-)!, 04:34:27 12/21/04 Tue Re: hip problems -- Donna, 21:23:03 06/11/05 Sat

Subject: World Champions choice of shoe

Author:
Craig Hullachan
[Edit]

Date Posted: 07:16:24 06/10/05 Fri

Newsflash

'The World Champions have now spoken'

In the article featured on the World Champions in the Irish Dancing Magazine during June and July 2005, the World Champions were asked what their favourite light shoe was. 8 out of 11 World Champions said that they preferred Hullachan as their Light Shoe. Naturally we are over the moon in getting such a recommendation by these superb dancers. For me, as designer, it really makes all my work and research worthwhile. That kind of support can not be bought. It only happens when a product delivers the edge that dancers need. Hullachan is famous for its protective elements and the new Hullachan AP is the results of two years work to improve dancers safety while looking wonderful.
(Source: Irish Dancing Magazine interviews June & July 2005.)"

(ps. we think that the only reason the other three are not in this group is because they have not tried the new Hullachan AP. !)

Lots of love, Craig
www.hullachanpro.com

Subject: little toe
Author: Confused [Edit]	Date Posted: 00:47:12 05/07/05 Sat Ummmmm in pe at the end of last term this girl in my class stood on my foot and dislocated both bones in my little toe and gave me a greenstick fracture on one of them as well. the dr at ane said to rest it for 2 days and come back. so i did and he said that it will be fine and i could go back to dancing the next monday (was a thursday) so i went back and i cant dance without it hurting really badly!!!!! even walking hurts it but dancing has me in tears! what can i do?
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Are you sure he said just 2 days? I'd definitely go back to see him.. (NT) -- good luck, 09:40:17 05/11/05 Wed Re: little toe -- am, 09:35:23 05/31/05 Tue

Subject: heel problems
Author: katie [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:13:11 04/03/05 Sun Hi, my left heel has been hurting me lately, only in hard shoe though, and it usually takes anywhere from 20-50 minutes for it to start to hurt. It hurts on the outerside and underneath of my left heel....I don't know what it is and I don't know how to treat it....could you please help me?? my mom thinks it's a heel spur (sp?) thank you....katie
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Re: heel problems -- julie j, 19:50:26 05/11/05 Wed

Subject: Irish Dance Lessons in Syracuse, NY

Author:
Butler Academy of Irish Dance
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Date Posted: 18:20:48 05/07/05 Sat

Irish Dance Lessons
info@butlerdancers.com
http://www.butlerdancers.com
Butler Academy of Irish Dance in Syracuse, New York has year-round enrollment available for Beginners through Championship level dancers. Contact Phyllis Scanlon for details at (315)695-3829. In addition to our Syracuse location, the Butler Academy also holds classes at the following satellite locations: Baldwinsville, Rochester, Wilkes-Barre, Fulton, and Rome. Visit us on the web at: www.butlerdancers.com

Subject: Is it ok to ask about healing a broken heart on here? It is a broken heart from ID, so does that count?
Author: tc doesn't love us any more [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:12:59 04/10/05 Sun
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Re: Is it ok to ask about healing a broken heart on here? It is a broken heart from ID, so does that count? -- been there, 15:01:42 04/28/05 Thu

Subject: ouuuuuuuuch!
Author: dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 14:53:25 04/06/05 Wed Whenever I dance for a really long time, not after regular class but after a workshop, or after i've been walking round all day, in the evening, the front of my ancle, like where you foot bends starts REEEEEEEAAAAALY hurting, enough to make me cry somtimes, it's so bad i can't sleep. It dosn't feel any worse when im walking around that evening it stays the same as when im sitting down. PLLEEEEEEASE could you tell me what to do because it's happend for years and it really kills me after feises aswell its such a pain (literally) what should i do? The docters in my area don't know anything about sports injuries ect and they're usually little help for dancing types of things. xx
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What kind(s) of doctors have you seen? (more inside) -- injury prone, 05:17:25 04/08/05 Fri

Subject: Recent recovery from Sesamoiditis . Feet feel better then ever. Now shin splits!

Author:
help!
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Date Posted: 18:19:19 04/05/05 Tue

Hi! I have been out of dancing since last October.
I had sesamoid surgery in my left foot and was lucky enoug hto the my right foot only partial fracture and it healed pretty well on it's own. I've just began retuning to dancing over th e past few weeks. My feet (for the first time in three years) DON'T HURT all the time.
Now I'm suffering from really bad shin splints and ankle soreness.
I stretch really well but still the pain get so bad.
I was wondering is this just from beginning to train again or am I looking a different problem now that my feet are fixed?

Subject: Serious Problems
Author: Deticated Dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:03:36 03/25/05 Fri IM a dancer who is not afraid to push myself extreamly far in practices. And lately i've been having trouble with my ancles and Knees. They are like soar and extreamly painfull in the mornings after soccer or irish dance. I have to use braces and that to not totally bust them. Any suggestions on how to still have a succesful practice and still be able to dance the next morning.(this does difenitly come in handy durring back to back feis's)
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Have you gone to see an orthopaedic doctor about your pains? (NT) -- Might be a good idea, 19:08:13 04/02/05 Sat Re: Serious Problems -- Shannon, 12:42:02 04/03/05 Sun

Subject: Sorry for the lack of responses lately.

Author:
Shannon
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Date Posted: 12:33:47 04/03/05 Sun

Wow it's been a busy year for me, and as some of you can tell I have let this message board go for quite some time. I'm not planning on closing it, but I am planning on recruiting some help as far as moderation goes.

I've started working full time as a registered massage therapist at a physiotherapy clinic, and well things have been rather chaoitic.

If there are any issues that you would like to get anwers to a little quicker, please feel free to email me. I check my email a little more frequently than the message boards.

I'm getting around to clearing up some of the junk that has appeared recently, and I'm going to make sure that it gets cleaned up faster in the future.

Subject: Are shin splints & Flat feet connected?
Author: Dancing Mum [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:08:11 12/11/04 Sat Hi Shannon & Everyone, My daughter has been compaining of really bad pain in her shins for the last 2 weeks so i am assuming it is shin splints, i am getting her to do calf stretch ect to help her but i remember months ago at a phsio appointment her physio mentioned that she had very flat feet (fallen arches), could this be causing the shin splints? should she be wearing arch supports? I would love any information on both shin splints & fallen arches if anyone can help, i really don't know what to do for the best, as i heard that dancing with shin splints without correcting the underlying problem can cause stress fractures, and she has already had a break in her tibia this year so i want to avoid any future fractures....... Thanks for any advice you can offer
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Well im not sure if the two are connected. But have her wear arch support anyway because fallen arches can cause multiple problems itself like in your lower back. (NT) -- sorry i don't know more.., 21:56:29 12/11/04 Sat Re: Are shin splints & Flat feet connected? -- Peta, 01:21:40 03/31/05 Thu

Subject: Re: Wig tugging on hair and pulling it out!!
Author: painful101 [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:01:00 03/03/05 Thu YEAGH the same problem happened to me! I wish everyone luck who has the same problem...best wishes to you AND all!!!

Subject: Does anyone have any advise on what to do for sore, sore, sore toes!
Author: soricha [Edit]	Date Posted: 22:11:00 01/10/05 Mon My step requires that I do three sets of "double-toes" ...(where you hit your back toe twice per hop) I can manage to do one set fine, but buy the time I do all three, I am in so much pain that I can barely step on my big toe at all. Its really just my big toe that hurts. Its feels as if I have severly bruised it or something, which actually hasn't happened yet, but it feels as if it might. does any one have any advise?
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Try placing lambs wool in the toe of your hard shoes. (inside) -- JS, 10:11:02 01/26/05 Wed get them x-rayed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! had the same thing.....more inside -- shattered the bones in my big toes, 18:48:56 02/23/05 Wed

Subject: bad blisters
Author: Kristina [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:12:35 02/11/05 Fri I have really big puffy white blisters all over my feet from dance. is it safe to pop for me to pop these blisters if i soak my feet in epsom salt right afterwards?
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Re: bad blisters -- Friendly (inside), 13:03:52 02/20/05 Sun

Subject: My DD has been getting a lot of pain in her outer thigh over the past two weeks, especially after soft shoe dances. It hurts on landing after up and overs or shiver jumps. Hard shoe seems to be ok. The PT thought she had strained her lower back and it was referred pain, but it really does seem to be coming from her thigh. Has been doing stretches the PT gave her and taking ibuprofen. Any suggestions? She has rested it for a week and just went back to class tonight and its really sore after soft shoe. She is meant to dance in Australian Nationals in two weeks!!
Author: Aussie mum [Edit]	Date Posted: 04:52:39 09/15/04 Wed
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Re: My DD has been getting a lot of pain in her outer thigh over the past two weeks, especially after soft shoe dances. It hurts on landing after up and overs or shiver jumps. Hard shoe seems to be ok. The PT thought she had strained her lower back and it was referred pain, but it really does seem to be coming from her thigh. Has been doing stretches the PT gave her and taking ibuprofen. Any suggestions? She has rested it for a week and just went back to class tonight and its really sore after soft shoe. She is meant to dance in Australian Nationals in two weeks!! -- Shannon, 09:02:18 09/15/04 Wed Thanks Shannon, I'll take her straight away. She has worked so hard towards these Nationals, and was doing so well, I'd hate her to miss them. (NT) -- Aussie mum, 14:01:47 09/15/04 Wed Re: My DD has been getting a lot of pain in her outer thigh over the past two weeks, especially after soft shoe dances. It hurts on landing after up and overs or shiver jumps. Hard shoe seems to be ok. The PT thought she had strained her lower back and it was referred pain, but it really does seem to be coming from her thigh. Has been doing stretches the PT gave her and taking ibuprofen. Any suggestions? She has rested it for a week and just went back to class tonight and its really sore after soft shoe. She is meant to dance in Australian Nationals in two weeks!! -- Christie, 20:43:37 01/28/05 Fri Update: Took DD to see a sports doctor today. He diagnosed Piriformo Syndrome. We are back to the PT tomorrow for some deep tissue massage, but at this stage it looks as though solos will be out at the Nationals. We'll just have to wait and see how things progress. There is a possibility DD could still dance solos if given painkillers beforehand, but hardly seems worth it if she cannot practice properly beforehand. She did so well at last years Nats. she wold be so disappointed to dance and not recall this year. (NT) -- Aussie mum., 06:31:06 09/16/04 Thu OUCH! -- Shannon, 07:54:09 09/16/04 Thu

Subject: hamstring/groin tear
Author: Penny [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:38:08 01/17/05 Mon While going down into the splits my daughter felt a pop. We know she had a slight tear. What we need to know is how long might it take for flexability to be regained. Competitions start in a few months. This injury took place 4 weeks ago. The pain is gone but flexability has been greatly reduced.
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Re: hamstring/groin tear -- still smarting from that!!!, 16:01:31 01/27/05 Thu

Subject: Keeping in shape
Author: worried [Edit]	Date Posted: 22:24:12 12/11/04 Sat I'm having surgery in less than two weeks to tighten a tendon in my left ankle. I have tried everything to fix this problem including rest, ice, meds and alot of physical therapy so my doctor said it was time for the last resort, surgery. I realize that once my ankle is fixed and i regain my strength that my foot will be healthier and probably won't hurt as much as it does now. However I am very worried about staying in shape and maintaining my weight after the surgery. I will be on crutches for 4 - 6 weeks and than a walking boot for another 4 - 6 weeks. I've been in a walking boot before and didn't gain weight but i'm very concerned that i will gain weight while im in a cast plus i will be off from dancing until at least april. does anyone have any tips for maintaining my weight (besides not eating lol) and possibly trying to maintain some of muscle tone, at least in my right leg. Thankyou!
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can you ride a recumbent bike in the cast? ALso, have you heard of a EMS device- that uses electrical stimulation to make the muscles contract. -- been there!, 11:58:27 12/14/04 Tue Thanks. Yea I have heard of that. And I will see about the bike. (NT) -- OP, 12:00:02 12/18/04 Sat try swimming using a kick board:) I'm not a swimmer but it sure helped me! (NT) -- my upper body really toned up too!, 18:29:29 01/03/05 Mon how did the surgery go? (NT) -- xxx, 10:21:26 01/10/05 Mon

Subject: My dd has been dancing in a new pair of hard shoes for about a month now and one of her heels remains blistered and won't heal. Does she continue to dance in them or is it time for a new brand of shoe? Thanks for the advice.
Author: The big O is just 5 weeks away! [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:10:36 10/31/04 Sun
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My DD has same problem..She is dancing in soft shoes for both dances for this week to let blisters heel. Teacher suggested using Aloe Vera Gel for quick healing. ANother mom said warm water, as warm as she can handle, and salt mixture. Let feet soak in this than blow dry the area to dry completely. I am also softening the back of hard shoe heels with baseball glove oil. (NT) -- mom, 04:38:12 11/08/04 Mon Re: My dd has been dancing in a new pair of hard shoes for about a month now and one of her heels remains blistered and won't heal. Does she continue to dance in them or is it time for a new brand of shoe? Thanks for the advice. -- Ariana Tyrie, 18:39:25 11/20/04 Sat Actually...some people (like me), (more) -- my feet dislike me, 13:17:56 11/22/04 Mon try using New-skin/Nu skin? Its like a liquid band-aid. (NT) -- try using it preventively too :), 18:32:29 01/03/05 Mon

Subject: anyone have experience recovering from a stress fracture in ankle area?
Author: ankle problems [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:33:57 06/30/03 Mon Were you able to recover and get back to high level dancing? Daughter in PT 2 x per week, doing her daily exercises 2 x per day and, off all dancing for summer. Wonder if she will really be able to get back to Open Champ level of dancing? PT says she will recover but she has no idea the amount of percussive/jumping work involved. Any input welcome!
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Haven't had any experience with that, but Shannon might be able to help (moderator). Keep checking back. Does her PT understand ID and the stresses it puts on the body? The more info they have the more accurate they can be in estimating recovery time. (NT) -- idmom, 18:10:50 07/01/03 Tue If you have taken the necessary time off than it should be pretty much healed (more -- Shannon, 07:49:06 07/02/03 Wed I was wrong on that ... it takes 6-8 weeks to fully heal. (NT) -- Shannon, 07:49:45 07/03/03 Thu Re: anyone have experience recovering from a stress fracture in ankle area? -- OP, 14:26:47 07/03/03 Thu Re: complete broken ankle!!! -- more, 20:56:25 08/25/03 Mon Re: complete broken ankle!!! -- jered aguilar, 08:46:21 07/15/04 Thu I had a stress fracture of my right ankle in May or June of 10th grade, went back to dancing in end of August but then stopped due to a different injury. Overall once i finally returned to dancing I never experienced any problem with that injury again. (NT) -- your daughter should be fine., 22:31:29 12/11/04 Sat

Subject: hi-my daughter was just told she has a tear to her peroneal muscle-more
Author: worried mom [Edit]	Date Posted: 06:15:09 11/24/04 Wed she did not do anything at class that caused an 'ouch'-in other words no traumatic event. She is a really bad over pronater (sp?) My question is, if she does her physical therapy religiously will she be able to return to her level of dance-preli,er?
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If she does har physical therapy and builds her strength she shouldn't have a problem returning to her level of dancing as long as once she starts dancing she realizes it won't be easy at first. (NT) -- but she'll get there., 22:00:54 12/11/04 Sat

Subject: Hi, I have Plantar Fascitis and after months of physio (massage and ultrasound) I'm having acupuncture. When all but one of the needles go in they're fine, but when the needle that goes into the sole of the foot is put in it's agony, so much so I'm reduced to tears. I'm having 3rd session tomorrow. Did anyone else have this?
Author: dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:51:22 05/05/04 Wed
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Re: Hi, I have Plantar Fascitis and after months of physio (massage and ultrasound) I'm having acupuncture. When all but one of the needles go in they're fine, but when the needle that goes into the sole of the foot is put in it's agony, so much so I'm reduced to tears. I'm having 3rd session tomorrow. Did anyone else acupuncture for this? how did it go? (NT) -- dancer, 12:52:21 05/05/04 Wed No, but my daughter recently had accupuncture for a virus, and the needles in her stomach did the same thing to her. She cried, too, and there was bruising around the area. When she showed the doctor this, he was apologetic, and said that even though the treatment wouldn't be as agressive, he would not put the needles in those spots again. Talk to your doctor, and ask if this is a possiblity for you. Good luck! (NT) -- dncrm0m, 16:59:26 05/07/04 Fri Re: Hi, I have Plantar Fascitis and after months of physio (massage and ultrasound) I'm having acupuncture. When all but one of the needles go in they're fine, but when the needle that goes into the sole of the foot is put in it's agony, so much so I'm reduced to tears. I'm having 3rd session tomorrow. Did anyone else have this? -- Shannon, 19:23:17 05/07/04 Fri Thanks, the third session went ok, not as much pain. I'm having othotics made but they'll take 10 weeks to come through. I'll try Willow dance and see what they have (NT) -- OP, 02:49:15 05/21/04 Fri MASSAGE THERAPY CLINIC LONDON UK COMPLEMENTARY HEALTH ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE THAI BOWEN TECHNIQUE -- Massage Therapy Clinic London http://www.massagelondon.org, 01:59:43 12/06/04 Mon

Subject: i think i pulled a muscle in my right leg. pretty sure its my ham-string..is there anything i can do to it to make it feel better?? its has been hurting for about a month but i dont want to go to a doctor and then he tells me i shuld stay off of it for a couple of months with the oirechtas fastly approaching.
Author: ??? [Edit]	Date Posted: 13:24:00 09/18/04 Sat
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Re: i think i pulled a muscle in my right leg. pretty sure its my ham-string..is there anything i can do to it to make it feel better?? its has been hurting for about a month but i dont want to go to a doctor and then he tells me i shuld stay off of it for a couple of months with the oirechtas fastly approaching. -- jimmy, 13:25:10 11/28/04 Sun

Subject: arkeles tendin (cant spell it sori)
Author: dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 01:55:11 11/16/04 Tue in 2002 i fell over and hurt my arkeles tendin and it turned out that it was holding on by about a 20th of what it was supposed to be. i got put in a cast for 3months and then had physio. i went back to dancing in feb 2003. but occasionaly now i cant move my arkeles tendin at all. is there anything i can do for this. thank you.
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Achillies Tendon -- Shannon, 17:50:18 11/23/04 Tue

Subject: What is the best way to tape weak ankles? Should I use the stretchy white athletic tape?
Author: thanks a bunch [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:26:57 01/01/04 Thu
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Re: What is the best way to tape weak ankles? Should I use the stretchy white athletic tape? -- ROBIN KINDELL, 21:13:35 11/01/04 Mon

Subject: Jean Butler Workshop in Colorado
Author: Workshop Organizer [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:58:44 10/25/04 Mon Jean Butler will be holding a workshop in Denver Colorado January 28.29.30 of 2005. Cost is EUR 260. Please contact me for more information and sign up. Workshop Organizer (719)380-5341 you_fly400m@yahoo.com

Subject: Toe Pains
Author: Kenleigh [Edit]	Date Posted: 14:41:17 10/03/04 Sun I have been having a huge problem recently with ingrown toenails. I have alsways had them, but recently they have been getting infected. I have heard that it helps to get pedicures once a month. Is this true?
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I'm the queen of ingrowns -- Shannon, 15:06:53 10/04/04 Mon

Subject: AHH!
Author: erin [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:04:04 09/22/04 Wed AHH i broke my 4th metatarsil (sp???) on my right foot coming down from a leap! 6-8 weeks! i hopefully ill heal quickly before the Oireachtas! I wasn't wearing any softshoes either so Wear Your Dance Shoes! lol hoping to feel better! bye!

Subject: Tape on Calves
Author: Loretta [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:27:13 08/10/04 Tue I have noticed some dancers applying tape to their calf during a particularly heavy dance workout. Can you tell me what kind of tape and what this would be for? Does it prevent strain or ?
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Probably for shin splints if the dancer is taping all the way round taping keeps muscle in place near shinthe calf. Shin splints are very painful because the muscle near the shin bone is separating from the bone. very painful taping keeps muscle from straining & in place. (NT) -- A med person could describe better., 20:11:47 08/10/04 Tue Sorry that came out a mess, but basically shin splints are horrible, and the pain does not usually go away permanently. (NT) -- Taping helps a lot, 20:14:01 08/10/04 Tue Tape is good, but make sure you are dancing on a padded surface. Shin splints are caused by running or dancing on hard inflexible surfaces, so take care where you dance ! (NT) -- ouch, 19:32:36 09/14/04 Tue

Subject: DD is complaining of pain in upper right hip area after stamina workout--gets better for a couple of days and then worse--Any advice? Thanks--Doesn't hurt when walking, hurts when jumping, coughing, etc.
Author: concerned Mum [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:19:25 08/15/04 Sun
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Re: DD is complaining of pain in upper right hip area after stamina workout--gets better for a couple of days and then worse--Any advice? Thanks--Doesn't hurt when walking, hurts when jumping, coughing, etc. (NT) -- Concerned Mum, 08:20:16 08/15/04 Sun DEF GO SEE A DOCTOR HAD MANY OF THE SAME PROBLEMS! quite common in dancers (NT) -- get it checked the quicker the better, 13:03:19 08/23/04 Mon This is a common problem with growing girls who do extreme sports. Get it checked to be sure it is not a stress fracture. Doctor will probably send to PT. Be sure to do prescribed exercises EVERY time before dancing. Will help! (NT) -- Mom, 19:27:39 09/14/04 Tue

Subject: Shin Splint Question
Author: hurting [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:34:59 09/14/04 Tue I've heard that people tape their calves to help shin splints. Does anyone does this, and if so, how exactly do you tape them? (I'm going to ask a professional, but I just wanted to get an idea of what other people do as well.) What other advice do you have for shin splints? Thanks!
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Re: Shin Splint Question Stand at arms length from a wall. Place hands shoulder distance apart on the wall. Turn toes in and do push ups on the wall...great exercise used by soccer players for shin splints (NT) -- Mom, 19:23:42 09/14/04 Tue Re: Shin Splint Question -- Shannon, 19:24:36 09/14/04 Tue

Subject: Back pain
Author: Carly [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:29:44 11/22/03 Sat After each class where we use heavy shoes, I always have pain in my lower back which radiates to the hip joints. Would physio help?
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Are you located in Can or US? -- shannon, 13:19:21 11/23/03 Sun Go see a chiropracter (NT) -- ----, 08:32:30 09/04/04 Sat

Subject: Splitting Toenails
Author: dancer:) [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:44:43 01/27/04 Tue People on this forum have been talking about toenails falling off. Though this has never happened to me, my toenails tend to turn white near the top, then continue growing that way until the white part sort of splits off. (usually about halfway down the nail). Is this a seperate problem than toenails falling off? Is it possible that this could be something wrong in my diet? Thanks
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i have the EXACT same problem...and i am as lost as you are to why it is happening. I think it might be just because of dancing...like toe walks and stuff, maybe? but i dont know!! sry i cant help you..but maybe there are other ppl who can help us both!! (NT) -- katie, 15:05:41 03/01/04 Mon Re: Splitting Toenails -- Brit, 22:24:19 04/25/04 Sun I've had this too. I think it's just from the stress that your toes are under when dancing. (NT) -- ----, 08:29:32 09/04/04 Sat

Subject: Hi Shannon................Back with an update and another question?
Author: Uk Mum [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:20:31 08/27/04 Fri Hi Shannon & Everyone, You may remember my message from last month: "My daughter who dances U10 fell yesterday and has broken a bone in her ankle and has some ligament damage and is in cast for 3 weeks. She is now asking me if she will be able to dance again and i don't have any answers for her i would love to hear from anyone who has had or knows someone who has had this kind of injury and how they got on afterwards (good or bad) as i really need to give her a realistic idea if she will dance again or not" Well the good news is that she was in cast for 3 weeks and now she has been out of cast again for 1 week and things are looking good, the ankle is both very stiff and very weak but we have been told that the break healed well so now we just have to re-strengthen the ankle before she can try and dance again. She attended physio a few times but they have said that there is no more they can do for it now as it is just a case of getting it strong again, so she has been doing quite a few exercises every day such as ankle circles, drawing the alphabet with her toes, toes raises (going high up on her toes and holding for 10 secs), and balancing exercises to get her balance back and also swimming to get her leg strength back, but we where wondering if you or anyone can recommend any more strengthening exercises for both the legs & ankles that we are not doing yet?, as we want to strenghthen the ankle as much as we can to try and prevent re-injury. Thanks in advance for any replies Uk Mum
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Re: Hi Shannon................Back with an update and another question? -- Shannon, 19:11:47 08/27/04 Fri

Subject: Hi Everyone, i really need some advice.........
Author: On broken bones [Edit]	Date Posted: 03:34:19 07/29/04 Thu My daughter who dances U10 fell yesterday and has broken a bone in her ankle and has some ligament damage and is in cast for 3 weeks. She is now asking me if she will be able to dance again and i don't have any answers for her. I plan to take her to physio when the plaster comes off but i would love to hear from anyone who has had or knows someone who has had this kind of injury and how they got on afterwards (good or bad) as i really need to give her a realistic idea if she will dance again or not. Thanks for any advice....
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Good news and not as good news -- Shannon, 11:05:10 07/29/04 Thu Thankyou....... -- ., 01:46:07 07/30/04 Fri No Problem -- Shannon, 08:34:18 07/30/04 Fri Thanks again Shannon, your help has been so much appreciated. I was going to go in and pick up a brace for when she comes out of her cast but i think her physio actually sells them so i think i will get one from him as he will give me the correct one in the correct size for her. I am just really annoyed that a brace was not suggested to me the last time she damaged her ligament as it may have strengthened the ankle and prevented her re-injury. (NT) -- I really appreciate all your help, 15:53:42 07/30/04 Fri Re: Hi Everyone, i really need some advice......... -- ~, 00:50:05 07/31/04 Sat Re: Hi Everyone, i really need some advice......... (NT) -- ., 08:00:59 08/27/04 Fri

Subject: Not Sure what is wrong...
Author: Susan [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:27:29 07/12/04 Mon I recently had my 2 year old "bounce" a heavy ceramic mug off my ankle so loud it rang as is bounced off. Needless to say, it hurt. I immediatley put ice on it and elevated it. Once the moderate swelling went down, I could move it fine, but if I stand on it for more then 15 minutes, or try top carry anything, it starts to ache more and more until I get off my feet and elevate it again. I suspect a hairline fracture of the anterior side of the tarsal talus bone of my right foot. What NON-cast & NON-LATEX options are there and what self-help things can I do? The doctor can't see me until 3 weeks from now ( It could be healed by then) and I HATE ERs. Suggestions are appriciated. Thanks.
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Re: Not Sure what is wrong... -- Shannon, 14:07:32 07/13/04 Tue EEE-Yow! That would hurt! Maybe your doctor can work you in (maybe at the end of the day - our dd's doctor has done this for us), call you if someone cancels, maybe refer you? Sounds like a busy practice, may not be able to get in before 3 weeks. (NT) -- feelin, 14:12:02 07/14/04 Wed Thanks everyone :-) -- Susan, 10:59:36 07/20/04 Tue Fractured right foot -- Nina, 11:28:35 08/13/04 Fri

Subject: Hurt Wrist
Author: slippy dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 04:29:25 08/13/04 Fri Hey everyone, i slipped while coming down from a click the other day, and i landed with force on my wrist- more specifically the bone below the thumb. i didn't think i was hurt, but then the next day it was aching throughout, really sore, etc. I have teams dancing class tomorrow, and i was wondering, can i strap my wrist with the same stuff you'd use on your ankle- that tan brown thick tape? and how exactly would i do it? like you would with a normal fabric bandage? I'm a bit worried about it being too tight, but i really need the support. thanks. sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but i just don't know
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Re: Hurt Wrist -- Shannon, 09:52:14 08/13/04 Fri

Subject: owww!
Author: feisy [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:58:20 08/08/04 Sun Usaually 3 or 4 hours after a feis, show or exstensive dancing the arch in my foot aches really bad and my shin does too. it usually only lasts for ab out an hour but it hurts really bad. does anyone else experiance this or know what it could be?? or am i just weird. I am 13 and in novice level. thanks
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Welcome to serious irish dancing. Your feet and legs are not usedto the strain, you need to build muscle, ice your shins and excercise your ankles (NT) -- , ask TC/older dancers for good excercises., 20:16:20 08/10/04 Tue Re: owww! -- Shannon, 12:25:49 08/11/04 Wed

Subject: Irish Dancers Chat
Author: Shannon [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:41:30 07/30/04 Fri on now www.irishdancersnetwork.tk also address update for this page www.irishdanceinjuries.tk
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Thanks for posting the link! We could use some voted in the poll. Its split 3 ways currently. (though anyone from here may just pick injuries! ;-) lol) (NT) -- IRISHDANCERSNETWORKHOME.TK (to vote), 06:31:17 08/04/04 Wed I just want to remind everyone about tonights (Monday Aug. 9) chat at 6PM EST . Hope to see you there! (NT) -- OP, 05:42:14 08/09/04 Mon

Subject: Someday I'll learn to walk...
Author: Klutz [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:18:02 07/17/04 Sat I was walking down a carpeted hallway, and decided to practice kicks while I walked. I lost my balance and nearly face planted, but my knee saved my face. It's rug-burnt pretty badly - it's about 2x2 in^2, and it happened ~10 am, and now at 7 pm i's still oozy. What should I put on it? I know leaving it in the air is best; but what about sleeping? I don't want to ooze all over my sheets! Thanks!
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Re: Someday I'll learn to walk... -- rgr, 19:52:09 08/08/04 Sun

Subject:

Sciatica

Author:
Anna
[Edit]

Date Posted: 07:51:22 08/06/04 Fri

Hi, does anyone have experience of IRISH DANCE & SCIATICA? I'm an "adult dancer", 26 years old and started Irish dance just six months ago. The worst pains started a few weeks ago (when the classes had already ended, so it might have nothing to do with dancing; still, I've had mild pains over at least the last six months). The pain eased after a couple of days but I still get mild pain most days. Now that I feel better I've started doing some Callanetics exercises to stretch my back and hip joints and to strengthen my muscles, but I'm worried that once the dance classes start next month, my back will get worse. And yet...I'd just hate to give up Irish dance when I've only just started. Does anyone know if Irish dance cause or worsen sciatica? Can anyone give me advice as to how to go on dancing but to prevent the sciatica getting worse?

Subject: tip of the week
Author: shannon [Edit]	Date Posted: 07:11:14 08/05/04 Thu Just crawled out of bed, but had some thoughts. 1) Eliminate the word CAN'T from your vocabulary. The more you say you can't do something, the more difficult it is going to be to accomplish. I was once told by a psychology teacher that instead of saying you are going to try to lose weight (because it sounds negative), say that you are going to live a healthier lifestyle. 2) Take the time to stop and smell the roses. While you are at competition, don't simply get out and dance, support your competitors and classmates, and make friends. It is much more pleasant to be liked than disliked. 3) Be the best that YOU can be. There is a huge difference between being your best and being the best. Being your best comes from within, being the best is completely subjective. 4) Say thank you to your dance teachers for their guidance, and thank your parents for all their support, and sacrifice. 5) SMILE :-), it has been proven, that no matter how you feel inside, once you smile it makes you feel better. So even on the worst day, SMILE! things will get better. 6) Hugs are also very important, sometimes getting a hug can be the difference between a good day and a not so great day. I think I would have been voted the most likely to randomly hug someone at school. It usually made someone smile. So as you can see my brain was whirling around in bed this morning. I did my practical and theory exams last week... I PASSED THE THEORY, now I am just waiting on the results of my practical. I love the waiting. Well I'm off to Columbus... :-) Have a wonderful day!
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Grwat advice-have fun this (NT) -- weekend!, 04:57:45 08/06/04 Fri

Subject: Toe Walking
Author: Curious [Edit]	Date Posted: 13:12:14 04/26/04 Mon A fellow-student of my daughter recently had casts on both legs to stretch an achilles tendon that had become shortened due to toe-walking (the child is 7 years old). She has braces to wear now, and seems to be walking fine, but the mother put her right back in dance classes and is getting ready for a feis. The child was crying after the first class back. Is this a "get back on the horse" circumstance or should she be allowed more time to adjust before dancing again?
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I have never even heard of this being done -- Shannon, 11:53:22 04/27/04 Tue it is ridiculous for a 7 year old to be doing toe work! -- mom, 20:52:37 07/16/04 Fri To clarify - the child was not walking on toes because of dance. -- OP, 08:21:45 08/05/04 Thu

Subject: I need help
Author: dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 00:14:00 07/24/04 Sat I had had a sore foot (along the side of my foot above the arch) so i had 5 weeks off. I also went to the podiatrist and she couldnt find anything wrong with it and said it was just an overuse injury. I thought it was better cause it didnt hurt so i went back to dancing today and it started hurting again!!!! im confused and frustrated nationals is 8 weeks away and i really need to get dancing again.....pls help
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Re: I need help -- Shannon, 09:37:56 07/25/04 Sun i dont think thats it -- dancer, 00:42:40 07/26/04 Mon Hmm.... -- Shannon, 11:32:49 07/26/04 Mon yup ive had x-rays............. -- dancer, 22:44:29 07/26/04 Mon

Subject: fractued foot!!!
Author: hop along [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:39:53 07/23/04 Fri Hi there. I had a bad fall on stage on sunday and ended up with a sprained ankle and a fractured meta tarsel (????). I am now in a plaster and on crutches. I have been told that the plaster will come off in 4 weeks. I am worried that they might put another plaster on and if they they do how long for? Any advice on how long I can expect to be emobile for and how long beforei will be dancing again would be fantastic. Thank you
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Re: fractued foot!!! -- Shannon, 14:06:08 07/23/04 Fri Thanks i had planned to see my physio asap anyway but the theraband and exercises I had not thought of. You give me a bit of hope as i want to dance at the brist in october. (NT) -- thank you, 12:59:21 07/24/04 Sat

Subject: CeltiCottage - sells the FRESH AGAIN Dress odor Neutralizer

Author:
Mary
[Edit]

Date Posted: 21:23:43 07/11/04 Sun

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We support and supply teaching material and study guides to the "Teacher in Training".

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Subject: sore foot
Author: dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:35:47 06/16/04 Wed I have been getting a sore foot after dancing recently. It hurts all along the inside of my foot above the arch. (Its not the actual arch that hurts) It also hurts where i think the joint of my big toe is. Anyone had this before, i dont want it to get in the way of my dancing and i want it to get better????
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look up info on sesmoiditis (sp?). if that's what it is, use a gel insert in your shoes, give it a few days rest and take anti-inflamatory (NT) -- good luck!, 18:19:09 06/19/04 Sat I had this i went 2 the physio and he cut out some poron to fit my soft shoos and cut away the poron unda da big toe (NT) -- hy, 03:22:24 07/06/04 Tue I know this is late, BUT if it still hurts...SEE A DR. mine was a stress fracture! baddd news (NT) -- dncr, 20:17:12 07/11/04 Sun

Subject: Thigh pain
Author: Mom [Edit]	Date Posted: 04:00:44 07/09/04 Fri My 11 yr old started complaining of thigh pain in her upper outer thigh. She said the pain came suddenly when dancing and feels like a hot knife (she had stretched well prior to dancing). We stopped dancing and iced it right away. It felt better but the next day when she went to dance she couldn't-she can't do jumps or whips. It felt fine when she wasn't dancing. Any advice except ice, advil and stretching?
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Re: Thigh pain -- can't help much but..., 17:46:39 07/10/04 Sat The thigh pain is gone with rest and stretches-guess it was a minor ache (NT) -- OP, 03:23:14 07/11/04 Sun so glad to hear it was not serious. Please watch out for re-injury! (NT) -- OR, 17:04:09 07/11/04 Sun

Subject: Sprained ankle
Author: Ouchy [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:43:22 07/10/04 Sat I sprained my ankle at NANs, but I have to do a performance in two days. It has improved and I'm icing it, but is there anything else I can do on the fly? Thanks

Subject: Long time no post
Author: Shan [Edit]	Date Posted: 20:57:22 07/07/04 Wed It's been a while since I have been posting regularily on here. Exams were madness for me, but I passed, not I just have to get through my board exams. So many people have been filling in for me on here, and have been giving some great advice. Irish dancers, and their parents are a great bunch of people. I just got back from Philly on sunday, went to cheer on friends, and had a great weekend. I just wanted to offer my congratunations to everyone on their performance and decorum. I don't think I saw one dancer that didn't earn their way there. I only wish that everyone could have come home with an award, but in my opinion everyone that got up and danced the best they could is a winner. I totally feel neglectful of this humble little message board. If anyone ever needs anymore information or has any questions please feel free to send me an email and I will try to anwser questions as best as possible, or try to get more information. Keep it reel, and best of luck!
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Good luck with your boards! Don't worry, you've been doing a good job with the board too! (NT) -- You give great advice!, 07:22:54 07/08/04 Thu

Subject: Nervous & Injured

Author:
nats dancer
[Edit]

Date Posted: 11:48:43 06/29/04 Tue

okay, i dance in exactly a week today at nationals, i haven't danced since saturday (only for an hour) and had to stop because my hip and foot were hurting. I've been goin to the chiropracter to help me heal, and am not dancing. I plan on dancing at nationals and have decided that in order to keep up my stamina i'll go on the stationary (sp?) bike, tread mill, etc., for at least ten minutes everyday (i started on monday) and plan on doing this until the day i dance (except for the day i travel). What i'm wondering is will this be enough for me to put on a good performance???

Subject: dd is just starting to dance again after a heel injury. She says her shin hurt. I assume this is shin slints. Are there exercises or stretches that can be done to heal/prevent this? Thank you.
Author: CA mom [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:26:56 06/26/04 Sat
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See inside -- Shannon, 07:08:54 06/29/04 Tue Thank you (NT) -- Ca mom, 10:25:42 06/29/04 Tue

Subject: HELP!!!!!
Author: NATS dnacer [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:59:30 06/24/04 Thu It's less than two weeks till nationals and i'm injured!!! I went to a workshop for nationals and have hurt myself. I still plan on dancing but I need help. My hamstrings are extremely tight...is there any way in loosening them up besides just stretching, also I've hurt the front of my hip joint (more the groin area), I think I hurt it from pushing my legs up higher on front kicks, but I'm not sure. Is there anything I can do to help my sitiuation?? Please reply!!!!!!!!!
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Go see a massage therapist. It can be expensive, but worth the money. Go every day between now and then if you have to, but make sure it's someone who deals with athletes on a normal basis! (NT) -- good luck!, 07:38:55 06/25/04 Fri I agree with above poster -- Shannon, 11:50:49 06/25/04 Fri

Subject: Sprained ankle????
Author: help me.... [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:18:47 06/20/04 Sun I went over on my ankle at class and it felt as if something cracked. It was incredibly painful but after a bit of rest and ice I was able to walk on it. However, the next day it was still swollen and had a lot of bruising, altough it's vey tender it's fine to walk on. it also feels when i'm walking on it, that if I turn a certain way something will snap or elseb that something needs to click into place. Is this common with a sprain or might I have fractured something. If it's still swollen in a day or two I'll go to the doctors.
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DON'T WAIT - go see a podiatrist who specializes in athletes/dancers (more inside) -- sprained & broken myself, 07:34:23 06/21/04 Mon

Subject: MY dd is getting custom orthotics to correct for foot supination-wlaking on outside part of foot- leading to chronic ankle pain and injuries. Have any of you used orthotics? How long did it take until you got some relief and saw any significant change?
Author: DD Mom [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:13:40 06/16/04 Wed
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My dd had almost instant relief. They say it usally takes a week or so to get used to them. Doc also said no flip flops. Good l1uck (NT) -- CA mom, 13:18:26 06/17/04 Thu Re: MY dd is getting custom orthotics to correct for foot supination-wlaking on outside part of foot- leading to chronic ankle pain and injuries. Have any of you used orthotics? How long did it take until you got some relief and saw any significant change? -- OP, 05:56:20 06/18/04 Fri Oh, the flip flop thing is the worst. My dd is a fashion before function girl but is only wearing good tennies now because she want to get better. (NT) -- CA mom, 08:17:39 06/18/04 Fri

Subject: Shin Pain
Author: dancer [Edit]	Date Posted: 19:49:22 06/14/04 Mon Hi, just in the last week i've been experiencing pain in both shins, during and after dancing. Even during the day with no dance they feel tender. I know I should probably take a rest from dance, but the event that is my goal is soon (2 months), and i just can't miss it! So for the stubborn dancer like myself, any advice? Thanks:)
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Some Advice inside -- Shannon, 11:47:39 06/15/04 Tue

Subject: Fell and hurt my knee
Author: meli [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:03:09 04/02/04 Fri i was ATVing and i sorta fliped it.. i landed on my knee really bad ... my knee was swollen really big... this happen a week b4 i realized that when the swelling went down, i have a big dent or hole in my knee cap or something in my knee... i dont know what it is.. i havent gone to the doctor and it doesnt hurt... i could walk fine... i just cant knee down... wat happen?
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Sure hope you went to the doctor for this! (NT) -- dancemomo2, 01:09:13 04/19/04 Mon Re: Fell and hurt my knee -- no name, 22:48:19 06/02/04 Wed

Subject: osteochondritis dissceans
Author: irish dance mom [Edit]	Date Posted: 06:59:30 05/20/04 Thu my 11 year old has been diagnosed with osteochondritis dissceans of her left talus...she has already been casted and on crutches for 13 weeks...still not released to participate in any sports especially irish dance...has anyone else experienced this type of injury (stress fracture) from dancing ? if so, what has been the recovery time ? we will be seeking another opinion, but i am just wondering if this is at all common ? thanks for any input
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That doesn't sound good-how did it happen (NT) -- curious, 02:39:48 05/21/04 Fri Re: That doesn't sound good-how did it happen -- irish dance mom, 07:41:34 05/27/04 Thu

Subject: inner foot pain
Author: bmc [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:55:58 05/22/04 Sat My 9 year old dd has pain in her inner left foot, sort of on the side, 1" under her big toe. Family doctor looked at it and said that it was tendonitis. She has cut back on dance for the last 3-4 weeks. It's feeling better, but still sore when she dances, especially soft shoe. When she dances, it feels best to dance in socks. We ice it after she dances. Since the pain wasn't going away significantly, we made an appt. w/ a sports med. ortho. The appt. is coming up next week; then I stumbled upon this forum. Curious to know if anyone had anything similar? If so, how was it treated?
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My daughter had a similar problem last year see inside -- mom, 03:15:48 05/24/04 Mon thanks (NT) -- bmc, 04:46:37 05/25/04 Tue

Subject: sore arm
Author: Lynn Orchard [Edit]	Date Posted: 03:42:15 05/17/04 Mon I received a tetanus shot about 7 weeks ago, my arm has progressively been getting sorer - certain ways I try to use my arm cuses intense pain - do you think this is the result of the shot or is it coincidental? What kind of doctor should be seen for this?
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I would go see a doctor.... (more) -- Shannon, 08:08:57 05/17/04 Mon

Subject: Ankle pain
Author: Mom [Edit]	Date Posted: 03:25:22 05/14/04 Fri My 11 yr old has had ankle pain since last week. It can't be too bad as she doesn't limp and rarely mentions it. I've had her cut down on practice. There is no swelling. I also have been giving her advil twice a day. Any ideas? She has intense classes, a few feis and dance recital coming up. Thanks
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There are a few possibilities -- Shannon, 13:56:00 05/15/04 Sat

Subject: Heel pain
Author: Emily [Edit]	Date Posted: 03:55:32 11/12/03 Wed I'm getting sharp stabbing pains in the bottom inside of my heel (In the bone I think). It hurts whether I'm resting or dancing. I have no bruises or swelling and I can't recall falling or hurting that part of my foot. Has anyone else got this problem? if so what did you do? what was it? I have seen my doctor and can't get a referal to the physio for a month!!!! Ouch!!!!
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Re: Heel pain -- Lita, 15:27:43 11/12/03 Wed Thanks - I think it is plantar fasciitis as I've looked up the symptons on the net and they match exactly, especially the spot under the heel where the pain is. (NT) -- Dancer, 12:08:55 11/16/03 Sun Re: Heel pain -- sue, 14:53:47 11/23/03 Sun hey im being treated for this at the minute, i have physio its painful but it really helps, i also have insoles which help. also find out if its a heel spur (ive had them too:( ) its a similar pain (NT) -- injured me, 14:12:43 11/26/03 Wed it could just b a not properly streched foot. they rolling your foot over a tennis ball to stretch it out (NT) -- em, 01:23:18 04/05/04 Mon Re: it could just b a not properly streched foot. they rolling your foot over a tennis ball to stretch it out -- andrew, 18:32:41 05/02/04 Sun

Subject: Corns
Author: Mary [Edit]	Date Posted: 19:47:08 04/19/04 Mon I think I have corns on the inside of both of my big toes above the ball of my feet. It is thicker skin or callus in that area. Can anyone recommend what I can do to remove them and perhaps to prevent them?
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Re: Corns -- Shannon, 19:29:48 04/20/04 Tue

Subject: Foot Pain
Author: tagg [Edit]	Date Posted: 20:20:11 01/27/04 Tue Hey, I have recently been diagnosed with compartment syndrome & entrapped nerves in my feet. The doctors have told me i need surgery. I also have severe shin splints. Has anyone else suffered from these? If so how did you recover? Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Foot Pain -- JS, 18:57:52 01/30/04 Fri Re: Foot Pain -- Shannon, 20:49:53 01/30/04 Fri Re: Foot Pain -- Claire, 17:37:20 03/31/04 Wed I get shin splints all the time not so bad though, If you wait a couple of days they should go away but if you have them really bad like my dancing friend you have to get needles inserted into your knees! (NT) -- dancer with shin splints, 15:21:54 04/19/04 Mon I get shin splints all the time not so bad though, If you wait a couple of days they should go away but if you have them really bad like my dancing friend you have to get needles inserted into your knees! (NT) -- dancer with shin splints, 15:23:29 04/19/04 Mon

Subject: Sorry for the lack of responses
Author: Shannon [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:20:36 04/12/04 Mon I have been incredibly busy with school recently, its hard to believe that I only have 2 months left until I graduate, and than it is the board exams. I can't wait till I am done school and get to start working. If there is anything that you would like to know or that you would like anwsered please feel free to email me, and I will either find the information for you or see if I can find somewhere where you can get it. I was doing so well in the beginning with my tip of the week... I guess it got scrapped somewhere in the middle of school. I am still planning on creating a website, more than likely it will be at least a few months, on injuries and injury prevention for irish dancers, I should be an RMT by than... LOL don't want to jinx anything though. Good luck with your feiseanna this summer, I am sure that I will post before than, and don't forget to savor every moment. Irish dancing is a great way to meet new friends, its much nicer than meeting new enemies. Don't forget that if your injury doesn't get any better in a few weeks, or you are in severe pain, please go and see a doctor, and get proper treatment for it, and if you can take some time off dancing. Keep on posting.
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Thanks Shannon-DD is younger(U10) and we're still learning--appreciate your site! (NT) -- VJ(poster below), 17:15:46 04/12/04 Mon

Subject: Bruises under toenails?
Author: VJ [Edit]	Date Posted: 05:55:02 04/07/04 Wed My U10 daughter has developed strange discoloration in the center under her big toenail. She says it feels like a bruise-could it be from Irish dancing? Another dancer(older)says same thing happens to her. Is there any preventive measures we can take-or is it pretty common and harmless? Thanks!
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I did this to myself last year -- Shannon, 13:52:25 04/11/04 Sun

Subject: Tight Arches
Author: dnace [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:30:38 08/23/03 Sat My arches are very tight lately, are there any exercises I can do? It feels like it's pulling right under where I tie my shoes. Thanks
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Do you mean it feels like the muscles are cramping up? Or is it more of an overall feeling of tightness all the time? (NT) -- idmom, 09:52:09 08/23/03 Sat roll ur arch ova a tennis ball to stretch it out (NT) -- em, 01:29:54 04/05/04 Mon

Subject: Sprained Ankle
Author: MWM [Edit]	Date Posted: 04:37:56 03/12/04 Fri My dd sprained her ankle last nite and doc suggests being off of it for the weekend at least. Follow up after that, what can we do for strengthening while we sit waiting and trying to heal. Also, should I get her an ankle brace for support now? She's bummed because of course this is one of our biggest weeks with St. Pat's Day coming up!! Any input would definitely help. First time injury for us!! Thanks much!
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Re: Sprained Ankle -- Shannon, 13:16:45 03/14/04 Sun my friend sprained her ankle and she went to a sports physician and he fixed it right away... i would recommend to try that (NT) -- em, 01:11:32 04/05/04 Mon

Subject: bunion help needed-my dd has bunions on the outside edge of her big toes-her hardshoes are not too tight and other than dance she wears properly fitting sneakers. they do not bother her in soft shoes but do when she is wearing her hards. any suggestions?
Author: dancemom2 [Edit]	Date Posted: 05:49:57 03/01/04 Mon
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Re: bunion help needed-my dd has bunions on the outside edge of her big toes-her hardshoes are not too tight and other than dance she wears properly fitting sneakers. they do not bother her in soft shoes but do when she is wearing her hards. any suggestions? -- Adult ID dance student in US, 07:53:47 04/02/04 Fri

Subject: ahh with the approaching worlds...
Author: ! [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:36:22 02/03/04 Tue recently i had hurt my ankle and ceased dancing for the tim emy doctor said to but now my stamina is horible plus ive lost bounce in my lifts! i was wondering if anyone anyone knew a fast way to gain this all back? i'm looking forward to going back but now am scared of the lost time of practicing?
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I'm in the same situation myself but have also but on about 25 pounds!!!!! I have the World Chamos in 10 weeks!!! So, If anyone knows a good diet for dancers to lose weight on please post it. (NT) -- good luck!!!, 14:24:20 02/04/04 Wed Re: a good diet for dancers to lose weight on -- Elly, 23:41:54 02/18/04 Wed Re: ahh with the approaching worlds... -- interested, 04:58:29 02/06/04 Fri

Subject: Knees - My daughter felt a "pop" and some pain under the kneecap today... more
Author: mom [Edit]	Date Posted: 20:29:26 09/25/03 Thu but was bale to contine dancing after massaging the area. However, she said it felt weird after the "pop". She was able to finish the class and didn't have pain afterward. Could this be a cartiledge tear??? What do we do for it? She wears a brace to stabilize the knee a bit due to a misaligned kneecap.
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I can't spell either don't worry.... more inside -- Shannon, 09:52:31 09/27/03 Sat Re: Knees - My daughter felt a "pop" - thanks so m uch Shannon - i look foward to your next reply! (NT) -- concerned mom, 16:48:03 09/28/03 Sun Try strengthening exercises & see MD -- Elly, 23:22:44 02/18/04 Wed

Subject: Seamless socks?
Author: lis [Edit]	Date Posted: 06:09:36 10/06/03 Mon Anybody know where to get poodle socks without seams in the toe? My daughter was complaining about her sore toes, and I was on the search for new shoes until she pointed to the exact spot where it hurts. I am hoping this will take care of it. Thanks.
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They don't make any that I know of ... think someone used to years ago, but don't remember who. (NT) -- idmom, 08:48:16 10/06/03 Mon Re: Seamless socks? -- janelle, 15:01:00 10/14/03 Tue I have the same problem occasionally with my soft shoes, I think if the cotton was softer, thinner (at the foot), and if the seam was smaller this wouldn't happen. (NT) -- n, 17:10:40 10/21/03 Tue Re: Seamless socks? -- Elly, 23:03:25 02/18/04 Wed

Subject: Heel Pain
Author: nora [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:29:58 01/01/04 Thu the [ast few times I've had class I've noticed pain on the outer edge of my left heel, especially in softshoe or when I land. It's been continuing when I'm just walking around the house, too. I've never had any kind of foot injury before. does anyone know what this could be or how I should treat it? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Heel Pain -- shannon, 18:20:00 01/03/04 Sat sounds like severs-how old is the dancer? (NT) -- mom of severrs dancer, 20:23:44 01/13/04 Tue Re: Heel Pain -- momofthree, 19:35:54 01/15/04 Thu Problem Solved!! Turns out the muscle was strained from driving! I'm a new driver and usually drive barefoot (Iknow, I know). Dr. said it will just take some time for the muscle to adjust. (NT) -- OP, 17:41:52 01/23/04 Fri Re: Problem Solved!! Turns out the muscle was strained from driving! I'm a new driver and usually drive barefoot (Iknow, I know). Dr. said it will just take some time for the muscle to adjust. -- momofthree, 16:15:40 01/26/04 Mon

Subject: Achilles tendon Sprain?
Author: ID Mom [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:02:46 09/11/03 Thu Hi My daughter is being treated for a sprain of her Achilles tendon. I was wondering if any other dancers have gotten them and what steps could be taken to prevent in the future? I noticed some dancers wear the dance sneakers rather than ghillies for practice. Are these "better" for one's feet? Thanks!
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Re: Achilles tendon Sprain? -- TP Bradford, 12:01:42 09/12/03 Fri Re: Achilles tendon Strain? -- Shannon, 12:38:07 09/14/03 Sun Re: Achilles tendon Sprain? -- Inside, 10:17:14 09/18/03 Thu are the symptoms of this tender heels and back of ankle? my little dd is having tender heels is that an achilles problem? (NT) -- reeltrouble, 14:11:40 09/25/03 Thu Shannon, sometimes tender heels can be severs syndrome right? I've heard this from other moms and that its common in young athletes. (NT) -- idmom, 07:54:54 10/03/03 Fri Re: Shannon, sometimes tender heels can be severs syndrome right? I've heard this from other moms and that its common in young athletes. -- joe, 12:59:16 01/20/04 Tue

Subject: free irish dance music
Author: nt [Edit]	Date Posted: 02:11:58 01/20/04 Tue hi folks, Why not take a visit to feis fever.com I got a free music download completely free and it has a great member list. www.feisfever.com

Subject: Help needed. Could anyone please advise me on how to help daughter have a correct "turnout". She is constantly dancing with her feet turned inwards. Can this problem be rectified? Any drills to help stay up high on your feet as well. Thanku!!
Author: Dance 4u [Edit]	Date Posted: 05:28:09 08/13/03 Wed
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Have you discussed this with her teachers? Perhaps they might be able to recommend a set of exercises that might help. Every dancer's body is different and some exercises might be more appropriate than others for your dd. (NT) -- idmom, 17:22:26 08/18/03 Mon Re: practice in front of a mirror and put white adhesive tape on the inside heels of your shoes. this really worked for me -- erin, 13:49:25 10/18/03 Sat Gee, too bad I was never a dancer, my mom always said I walked like a duck! (NT) -- quack!, 17:52:44 01/19/04 Mon

Subject: hamstring
Author: aine [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:23:56 01/03/04 Sat ok so walking on a slick floor in just socks, i slipped and wound up in the full splits position with my right leg forward. since i was not at all warmed up and fell into it hard, i am having alot of pain in my hamstring. i've put heat on it off and on but it's still pretty sore. anyone know how long this takes to heal or any tricks to help speed the recovery? thanks!
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sounds like you may have slightly strained your hamstring -- Shannon, 18:17:27 01/03/04 Sat

Subject: I am 15 and in Prelim and I recently broke my toe, I have been given the ok to start dancing again, but am scared I will hurt my toe again. It does not hurt when I go up on point, but does hurt when I hit my toe on the ground (in behind toe or treble and toe and toe toe) Has anyone had the same injury and how did you recover?
Author: Broken Toe [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:21:15 12/28/03 Sun
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Keep it taped, and go slowly; it will take a long time to heal. It is going to hurt, but gradually it will get better. This happened to our friend (my kids just keep losing their toenails!), and it seems like it took months for her to regain her confidence and then her dancing ability. Don't give up! (NT) -- mom, 01:50:57 12/30/03 Tue do I use cloth tape and go around my toe? I am not sure what you mean by tape the toe, but thank you for your kind words (NT) -- -, 11:19:17 12/30/03 Tue Toe recovery -- Not and expert but..., 12:20:54 12/30/03 Tue

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