Subject:  Re: Wonder what happened to Raven? |
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Tammy
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Date Posted: 21:40:17 03/21/02 Thu
In reply to:
Diane
's message, "Wonder what happened to Raven?" on 19:59:57 03/21/02 Thu
Perhaps Raven's busy with other things? *L* Just a thought. Some people are more strapped for time than others.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~Well, that explains a lot. The secrets of
>the Bible aren't revealed so easily to people who
>don't want to spend time meditating on it - expecially
>if God reads the heart and knows that they are moving
>away from him. And I don't get much out of study
>groups myself, so I can't say I'm surprised that you
>didn't. Studies are typically calculated to keep us
>away from important truths, and to keep us boxed into
>the status quo - not to reveal anything new.
I agree.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~Not everybody 'creates' their own
>interpretation, Tammy. Some of us truly do get our
>knowledge from higher sources.
I was just commenting about what you said. "it's not unlike the writing I do myself which comes from my interpretation of the Holy Bible" I think perhaps some readers of the bible interpret things in a different way than say another reader of the same bible. Just as people are different, so will be what they take from the text.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I certainly have - and from all types
>of religious backgrounds, not just from Christians.
>But then, I also know that we tend to attract those
>types to ourselves when that is what we project out to
>others. I'm sure that's in your Buddhist teachings too
>somewhere, isn't it?
The only types of these people I have met call themselves Christian, so I wouldn't know about the other religions. I haven't met someone from another religion who acts in that manner. But that is just my experience. Unfortunately, I'm sure they're out there somewhere. And I don't think that anyone exactly attracts these people. We just have the misfortune of stumbling upon them. I wish that we only ran into people who would give back what they receive, kindness, love, etc. But the world, unfortuantely, just isn't that way all of the time.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Are you saying that there are mistakes
>in the Bible because of this? Well then, we'd have to
>admit that it isn't really God's word, wouldn't we?
That is what I believe, yes.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I agree with this too. But if you're
>going to set a website, with the stated purpose to
>clarify some misconceptions about your beliefs, it
>would help to know what you actually believe, wouldn't
>it? And to know what you opposition believes? How can
>you know your own argument otherwise?
You'd have to speak with Raven about that.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Does he not state his purpose
>somewhere?
Purpose, yes. But when there's a debate, there are usually two sides. That lengthy website is just one side.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Jesus teaches the same thing.
I agree.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~According to the Bible, Christ was the
>first-born of all creation. Everything that was made,
>was made through him. If you look at it from God's
>point of view, this shouldn't be so hard to
>understand. To God, there really is no time. But maybe
>Buddhists don't believe in an all-powerful Creator.
I can't speak for other Buddhists, just myself. *S*
But I think I understand what you were trying to say.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~These are already common to both. Is
>there anything more that Buddhist teachings could
>offer me that isn't already in the Bible?
Perhaps not. It depends really on what you've already taken from Christian teaching, and I have no way of knowing that. But there are some things that are in the Bible that shouldn't be, in my opinion. A couple of those are listed on that debate site. And I'd rather not discuss the rest because I'd rather not start an argument.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I'm looking for common beliefs between
>me and Raven, and now maybe with you also - that is
>true. If I meet someone else that thinks the Dalai
>Lama is 'all that', I might also look at those
>beliefs. In the meantime, I think I'll just take on
>one at a time.
I'm not sure I like the tone I'm picking up from that last statement. But I'll pretend I didn't notice anything and move on. I'm sure there are Buddhists out there who believe that the Dalai Lama is "all that" Just as there are Christians who feel that Jesus is "all that". *L* You don't have to look at Buddhist belief. Like I said, the Dalai Lama writes for the benefit of all people. Not just Buddhists. And it really doesn't matter to me whether you choose to read it or not, I'm not going to take it personally. *S*
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