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jean the frenchie ( happy)
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Date Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2025, 04:56: am
In reply to:
Earl
's message, "Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa" on Wednesday, December 17, 2025, 12:52: am
"Earl"
thank you for your answer .
As regards your relation and the presence of a glass divider, I am wondering if it would not have been more understandable if it had been rather a huge window without curtains where the three women observers, for instance young ladies of the administrative staff or female non commissioners oficers, were only walking in the space behind the window without any task to do, may be with folders at their hands to put them in an other room but not clipboards to take notes, and would have stopped to look at the examination of the naked recruits by curiosity and for enjoyment and of course without being told by the doctors to go away! They could be here to look also because they had been informed that there would be that day at that hour an exam of young men and they would not miss the spectacle.
As regards my questions, you have not answered about the view of the examination of private parts for the observers :
"I have not understood if the doctors instructed to you to face the glass when they inspected your genitals, so that the observers could see them to take notes ? and when you were instructed to turn around and spread your cheek's butt for a check of hemorroids if you had your back face to the glass divider, so that your asshole was visible from them, or if it was just your front ?
One of the best part of your recollection of young men physical examination at the army is the coming of two young ladies and their interest for your naked bodies!
Apparently it is one of your strong remember of that physical examination. I understand you very well on that point !
It is a perfect exemple of the double standard between the respect of the privacy of the two genders
I am glad that it could be discussed on that discussion because Voyforoum had supppressed other discussions where that subject was treated.
As regards swimming in the nude which is the suject which is more often discussed, the truth of some relations is no more questionable (the newspapers of that period can be easily read ) the question of mixed lessons with girls and that of an audience of families at swimming meets is less obvious, even if it is in my opinion enough documented to be considered as true at least partially.
Same for substitute women Pe teachers at swimming lessons for boys, and they might also supervise the locker rooms and mandatory showers in that case which could of course never happen for a male Pe teacher and girls students.
But thre was other cases of double standard such as mandatory physical examinations at school and for sport.
We knew that the group exam especially at exams forsport ws often the rule for boy's students even at colleges while it might be very seldom for girl students whom privacy was much more respected.
We knew also that there was often a medical staff composed of women : doctors, nurses and sometimes also medical secretaries or female members of the school staff or even volonteers mothers to help. ( it would have been considered as completely inappropriate to ask to fathers to help at the examination of girls and anyway they were not available since they worked )
And in my opinion it could also happen when there was a mess on the schedules like for swimming lessons so that a class of girls or the girls of a mixed class could have a view on the boys waiting already undressed to be examined, it could happen accidentally or incidently because there was not a real concern of the authorities about such situations.The exposure of a boy student undressed until underwears or even stark naked was not a big deal like it would be today !
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