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Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Earl [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2025, 08:07: pm In reply to: jean the frenchie ( happy) 's message, "Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa" on Wednesday, December 17, 2025, 04:56: am Jean the Frenchie. Remembering the army physical. I believe the reason we faced the glass "window" was lack of room behind where we were lined up. It seems as though the nwall was only maybe 2 feet behind us. Also, all of the lighting came from the side with the window. We were marched in, single file, thru one door,examined, and marched out thru a door at the other end. Nothing in the room except us recruits and the 2 people doing the exam. It might have been a hallway at one time. Just the ends blocked off and doors put in. Having read the messages about the male nude swimming, I can believe that mothers coming to pick up their sons from swimming lessons could have observed the boys swimming naked. Also any children, girls included, would have been allowed to come inside out of the summer heat. I have in mind a swimming pool with an 8 foot cement walkway around it with a 8 foot high wire fence with bleachers behind it. This is the way our swimming pool was set up when I was a kid. Wehad people in the bleachers, sometimes just to watch, but there was no nude swimming done. Except when we snuck in late at night. That was when we were in high school and it was nude co-ed swimming. It was dark enough to keep a little bit of modesty, and some panties and bras were worn. But not by all. That was in the sixties and I don't remember any talk of nude swimming done at our pool. I can remember women teachers who were our P.E. teacher coming into the dressing room after P.E. class and hurrying us along because we were taking to long to get dressed. That was during my fourth, fifth and sixth grades. All of us would make a mad scramble to cover up with a towel or something. No one felt comfortable being seen naked by a female teacher. I have to wonder about the boys who weren't bothered by that situation that they could continue to walk around naked in front of a female teacher. I was much to embarrassed to walk around like that in front of my mother, much less some teacher. Enough from me. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Earl [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2025, 08:25: pm To Jean the Frenchie; In the "thread"? PHYSICAL EXAMS REQUIRED FOR SCHOOL OR SPORTS, James, on Dec. 19th wrote you a message that was quite good. He asked you several questions that I would like to hear the answer too. Nothing to personal, I don't believe. If it's not to personal, please share. I'm a slow typist, and I'm trying to save me some time. O.K.? Good reading your post as usual. Thanks, Earl [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: William [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2025, 07:32: am I read with much interest the messages about nude swimming at the "Y" and the reason being that the suits worn by men were made of wool and the fibers pugged the pool filter and also the wool harbored bacteria and germs that couldn't be washed out without destroying the suit. The women wore suits of cotton and that fabric could be washed with super hot water and didn't lose fibers. So, they were able to wear swim suits whereas men couldn't. This may be a really dumb question but, why couldn't the men wear swim suits made of cotton as the women did? The answer could be obvious, but I can't see it, Help me out someone, please. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Tim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, December 27, 2025, 08:48: pm I remember some of my physical taken before entering the army, but I don't remember it well. I remember one woman wearing an officers dress uniform who just watched everything and didn't seem to have any job in particular, All recruits moved from station to station getting different parts of the exam done. There seemed to be no shortage of young women in army uniforms moving about as we had our exams done. Most of the hands on part of the physical was done by females. Female nurses in the service are officers. So are the doctors. It's hard to tell the difference unless you can see their name tags. That will usually let you know if it is a M.D. or a nurse. A lot of the females were just clerks, as was indicated by sleeve rank. A few male doctors but most of the work was done by females. And, most of the exam was done while we were naked. That was in 1964. No room for modesty. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Tim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, January 21, 2026, 04:02: pm I have experience of a sort about being looked at by a female but no vice versa. I have a sister who is nine years older than I am, and since I was a baby she has taken care of me as much as a mother normally would. She bathed me, changed my diapers and all of that stuff. My mom worked two jobs and that's the way we lived. Even after I had reached ten years old my sis still walked in on me when I was in the shoer or just getting out. I wouldn't try to cover up. Now, two things that I think is odd. One; I wasn't as casual about nudity in front of my mother. I would cover up if she came into the bathroom while I was naked. I was embarrassed to be seen naked by her. Two; My sis was always a prude when I happened to walk in on her when she was half dressed. I would get yelled at. She told me that when I was little she got in the tub with me, but I don't remember it. Both of those things seem odd to me. My sister still walked in on me after I was in high school. Kind of a double standard, I think. Another thing, we were the only two kids in the family. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Wiley [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2026, 02:00: am to Tim I think you belong to a group of us who could be known as little brothers. My sis who is eight years older than me, never bothered giving me any kind of privacy when I was growing up. I don't think she ever changed my diaper when I was little, but I think she watched my Mom do it. Anyway she never bragged about doing it. She never bathed me, or dressed me when I was little. None of the things that make them think they have the right to treat you as if you were their personnel toy. My sister would walk in on me when I was in the shower even after she was grown and moved away. She would walk into my bedroom without knocking even when I was fourteen years old. She walked in on me one time when I was playing with an erection. I started to cover up, and changed my mind. I kept on slowly jacking off and asked her if she wanted something. She said, only to watch you. She watched for maybe a few seconds and left. She walked in on me in the shower not long after that and I started working on an erection while looking at her, and she just left. That was the last time she walked in on me. She wasn't into anything sexual I guess. Maybe, I don't know. I guess I don't know why I resented her intrusions. I guess it was rude of me to do what I did. Oh well. I'm twenty four years old and I wonder if she would still be doing it if I hadn't exposed myself like I did. Probably. So Tim, I think it happens to a lot of younger brothers. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: jean the frenchie (MARCHAND) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, February 06, 2026, 08:13: am " Tim" I find rather odd that in the Us 1964 there was so much females among the persons who were present for your physicals examinations for the army. I presume that it was during the Vietnam War and that you were an unfortunate draftee at that time, which meaned that the respect of privacy and modesty was very few for you and all other draftees, which explains your exposure in the nude to women clerks and secretaries who had no reason to be present and to watch your exam or see you standing naked in corridors or by windows without curtains. May be some were doing an admistrative job to check the indentity of the draftees and the set up was to do it while the draftees were were already naked or a few xere coming in the exam room to send letters or forms to the medical persons. I presume that there could be also a shortage of male persons to conduct the examinations and instead the hiring of girls and women under contract with the army. It was certainly the case for most of the women doctors and nurses. There was not enough males to perform all the exams in an efficient and quick way and it explains why there was so much medical women present. When you are a lot of draftees naked and a lot of women to watch at you, it began more funny than traumatising in my opinion ! not the same as if you had been alone ! Anyway it was the same in other countries such as Sovietic Union, URSS. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: jean the frenchie ( happy) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, February 06, 2026, 10:17: am to "Earl " in a recent message you said that you would like that I give answers to James message on the thread " physical exams for school and sport " you write that his massage was on december , is it right?, I have already answered to his first message so I presume that it is the second edited on the 22 december? But I don't see any questions he is just relating that he has read stories by Knut Hol on an other forum or that of Lady Bird I have checked and the forum had ben delayed I cannot do anything to restore it ! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]