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Date Posted: 18:43:51 03/20/02 Wed
Author: Adilbrand
Subject: Too funny (point by point commentary)
In reply to: Abba's Son 's message, "The Truth" on 15:01:04 03/20/02 Wed

'The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickednes of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is PLAIN TO THEM, because God has made it plain to them.

And what is plain to me is that God is everything and everywhere - including me. Therefore I am made up of God. Therefore I am Truth, and acceptable to God, for I am He.

For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen being understood from what has been made, so that MEN ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE.

Have I offered an excuse? An excuse for what? Not believing in a book that didn't exist since the Creation? Indeed, a book that has only existed for a very short period of time, historically speaking?

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and THEIR FOOLISH HEARTS were darkened.

I suppose that if I felt my thinking was futile, my heart might just darken a little. Generally, it is ministers and religious fanatics that cause my heart to darken. Come to think of it, didn't Pharoah WANT to release Moses, but since that didn't fit God's blood-thirsty plan, God Himself hardened Pharoah's heart? That would indicate that God choses for us whether we believe or disbeleive, and thus, but doing as God chooses for me, doesn't that mean that I, a disbeliever, am doing God's will, and will be saved for doing it well?

Athough THEY CLAIMED TO BE WISE, THEY BECAME FOOLS and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts...' (Romans 1:18-24)

Ah. Paul. I see you are not a follower of Christ, but a follower of Paul. He had a very different theology and philosophy than Christ had. Forgive me if I scoff.

Scoff it you will. That is your choice. These verses are preceded by Paul's theme for the book of Romans "the just shall live by faith." My faith is unshakable. My faith has made me free. My faith will bring me to my just reward.

And the Theme of Christ's ministry, as recorded in Matthew, Mark, and Luke, the Just shall live by good works. You know, feeding the hungry, visiting the ones in prison, et.al. Ah, but I forgot. You are a follower of Paul, not of Christ.

Lord Jesus, I pray in your name, the name which is above every name, that you will soften this hurting young man's heart.

Shouldn't you pray to Paul? That is who you keep quoting.

Lord, I pray that you will show him your love, show him your scars, show him your empty tomb.

Is he supposed to teleport me to Jerusalem? I would hope that his tomb would be empty after 2,000 years. I don't think he was mummified.

Lord, I pray that the demons which control his heart and mind will be loosed in your name.

OH SHIT! Don't loose my demons on the world! Do you have any idea what you are asking? We'd have Lesbian Cheerleaders EVERYWHERE!

God, shut this site down in the name of Jesus.

Paul, you mean. Jesus encouraged debate.

Your word says that a faith of a mustard seed can move mountains.

I have yet to see a Christian anywhere move a mountain. I've seen some Indian mystics walk on water and levitate, though.

I have that faith. Move this mountain of deceit and blasphemy! And replace it with a thousand sites that offer praise and adoration to your name. Lord, your word also says that every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. That means EVERYONE. This young man, Marylyn Manson, Gene Simmons, EVERYONE WILL CONFESS THAT HE IS RISEN AND THAT HE IS LORD!

You must know me, or else the Gene Simmons comment was a real lucky shot. I'm not a fan of Marilyn Manson, though, but I can appreciate his motivation.

Holy Spirit, thank you for your Word which is a light unto my feet and a lamp unto my path.

Perfect Mithraism! That is a Mithraic phrase, before the Christians stole it.

Thank you for your will, which is good and acceptable and PERFECT.

If He is so perfect, why couldn't He make perfect people?

Thank you for dying for my sins, and all of our sins, even though we didn't ask you to.

Well, I wasn't alive then, so I couldn't have asked him to, although I would have if I could have. "Please crucify that bastard!" I would have shouted. And then I would have thanked God for letting it happen. "Boy, it is a good thing he died, so that I can be forgiven. Thank God he accepts the blood of innocents as a bribe. Let's go hang some more innocent people and make Him really happy."

Thank you for giving my life and giving it to the full. In the mighty name of Jesus Christ...AMEN!

That is right. God doesn't give life half way. He likes His people to be fully alive. Half dead people look like Marilyn Manson, anyway, and we should kick the shit out of half-dead people.

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