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Date Posted: 14:30:28 06/19/03 Thu
Author: Mt. Healthy Mountaineer
Subject: Re: VH1's top 100 songs of the last 25 years: Adilbrand's comments
In reply to: Adilbrand 's message, "Re: VH1's top 100 songs of the last 25 years: comments anyone?" on 18:23:20 06/18/03 Wed

First things first:

This is funny:

Adilbrand:"Not familiar with the song. Is rap really that influential? I could see the first rap song being on the list, but since every other rap song is basically a re-write of that one..."

You say this after every rap song, just copying yourself, as you accuse them of doing. If it was intentional, bravo!

Some comments on rap:

I'm not a great rap fan at all, but in my years of working at Indianapolis Public Schools I did learn that there are a lot of different styles and quality. You may think it is all the same, but my IPS students would think that KISS, Joan Jett, Stryper, Led Zeppelin, Cinderella and Metallica all sound exactly the same. Your ear has not developed a pallete for it because it has not heard enough.

And yes, rap is that influential. It has changed rock and roll (the driving beat characteristic of rap is in - it even influences country music - the guitars have been very de-emphasized, the opposite of the hair band genre).

Eminem is a rude white boy, but he does not act black. He is really an inner-city redneck. I really dislike him on many levels, but he is probably the most talented rapper of all. He is easily understood, his lyrics are clever, his videos are even more clever and his tunes get stuck in your head.

I can't believe you've never heard of Public Enemy's "Fight the Power!" Rap protest song with angry power. You are the whitest white boy in the whole world.

RE: Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit." I like the song (The only Nirvana song I like) and I like Weird Al's version - his video for it is a hoot as well.

RE: Hanson's "MMMbop": I think it made the list for two reasons - #1 - infectious song. #2 - they repaved the way for the boy bands. People think New Kids on the Block did it, which is semi-true. They were the first big boy band, but their image, and the image of all boy bands, was tarnished by stories of drunken brawls and wild parties with fans (you can't sing to pre-pubescent girls about the sweetness of love and then beat up their older brothers and sleep with their older sisters and expect to keep up the squeaky clean image). Hansen cleaned up the boy band image.

RE: Pink Floyd - I would imagine that "Another Brick in the Wall" was put in the list as a tribute to the movie and the album and the massive stage show that they put on. I'm sure you're familiar with the massive undertaking that "The Wall" was. Heck, it's an undertaking even to listen to the thing - its emotionally consuming and forces you pay attention. Sadly, a lot of people watch and listen to it and have no understanding of what it is saying... Wal-Mart was selling tie-dyed Pink Floyd T-shirts with the giant walking hammer logos. There's something wrong with corporate America's biggest store chain selling tie-dyed (originally a protest against conformity) shirts with that logo that was created as a warning against conformity (don't we all shop at Wal-mart, now?)

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