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Subject: Re: This is the norm now???? everyone is teaching MMA??

Author:
Brandon Weaver

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Date Posted: 19:43:11 04/04/08 Fri
In reply to: Just Wondering 's message, "This is the norm now???? everyone is teaching MMA??" on 22:23:35 02/19/08 Tue

"It wasn't too long ago that there were nothing but blue belts in NC or SC and I can remember that there were some pretty good fighters coming out of the camp trained by blue belt. Also, if a sensei wants to make money by using mma as a marketing tool, is that so bad? I definitely agree about people who have no cross training. understood. But there are a lot of traditional instructors with background in karate and judo or boxing and JJJ. Should these guys NOT compete in MMA?"

That was about 8+ years ago. Big difference between a new blue (about a year's experience) and the guys from back then (who all had been wearing blues for several years BEFORE training other people). Time frame of training was my intent in using blue belt as a reference (a year of training) and IMO a guy with a year of mat time needs to be training with people and NOT teaching. Period. Not if he is sending guys into MMA competition.

You mentioning college wrestlers in the same post is ridiculous. Wrestling is a proven combat sport and anyone who wrestled in college is alot more seasoned than a year.

I am all for new people coming into the sport. I am NOT for sensais treating MMA as the new tae bo and trying to make money. Tae Bo wont get anyone hurt, training in a weak program, under bad instruction, with a weak team WILL.

Promoters are not going to look out for fighters, plain and simple. If a coach is too inexperienced to know what to look out for and how to prepare a person to fight he is the ONLY buffer a fighter has between having a fair match-up and getting a confidence shattering, life altering beating.

I have seen all sides of MMA competiton, and I can tell you the fight game isnt always pretty on the underside, and if you dont train with a decent team and good trainers you are going to see more of that underside than you want to. Yes I am a cynic.

I'd feel alot better about Kroddy Sensais runnning MMA programs if they ACTUALLY HAVE EXPERIENCE COMPETING AND TRAINING THEMSELVES. That is my point. I want to see a bunch of tape trained, never competed, never trained for a fight themselves weeners training fighters. That's my whole point if its not clear by now. Too many good guys with good backgrounds in this state for a guy who wants to fight to train with rather than training with some clown who is "learning on the job" with some kid's safety in his hands.

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[> Subject: Re: This is the norm now???? everyone is teaching MMA??

Author:
Wayne Hurse
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Date Posted: 15:11:07 04/10/08 Thu

"I want to see a bunch of tape trained, never competed, never trained for a fight themselves weeners training fighters. That's my whole point if its not clear by now."

I am not understanding you at all. first you say that no one is able to do this and now you are for it. My point is that we should all get along to train with each other and be done with it. Nobudy wants fighters to get hurt, but adults are able to make up their own minds if they want to fight or not. The coaches should never push anyone into fighting, but if they have a competitive atmosphere then thye should do it.

"You mentioning college wrestlers in the same post is ridiculous. Wrestling is a proven combat sport and anyone who wrestled in college is alot more seasoned than a year."

I dont see how it is ridiculous. i know that these wrestlers are able to compete. You act like the wrestlers are not qualified due to their limited ability for mma. But what I don't understand is that if you have a college wrestlers with 10 years of experience in wrestling, wouldn't they be good? They are almost guaranteed the takedown but Ground n pund would be there for them.

I apolgize but I am just not understanding what you mean. I think that MMA is a great sport and we should all offer to cross train with as many people as necesary, be it wrestlers, judo, karate, or what have you.

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