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Subject: Re: who is Luis Togno??? Author: Jimmy Blanchard [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 23:24:03 07/24/02 Wed In reply to: Steve Loftin 's message, "Re: who is Luis Togno???" on 21:59:48 07/24/02 Wed First let me say again, that I'm not on here trash talking or bad mouthing anyone. I just want to know the truth and I guess other people do too. I wonder why Togno's own students don't know their lineage. Haven't any of you ever asked him, haven't you seen his black belt certificate? Most people display them proudly. I just want to know who Eduardo Hodas trained under becuase nobody seems to able answer that question. Not even the students that defend Togno so completely. I know that skill is the most important thing but honestly is very important also. Is Togno's rank fake? Does anyone know? This shouldn't be that hard to figure out, tracing back a lineage is very easy. Yet nobody wants to admit that nobody knows anything. Answers anyone? Why doesn't Luis come on here and clear this all up? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: who is Luis Togno??? Author: Luis Togno [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:58:05 07/24/02 Wed Thees eez bool sheet!!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: who is Luis Togno??? Author: Jason [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:20:54 07/25/02 Thu Well, I just got back from checking Luis's academy out. It was a great class! he started the class up with a warm up then we did 2 throws. Then 2 attacks after the throws. Then a defense for the bottom guy. Then we worked it as a drill. He shows alot of details and answered every question with a great answer. The throws were done a Tee with a slight variation at the end that I had never seen and it worked even better for me. I'm also a black belt in JUDO. Then the last 4 min. of the class he made us do armbars from the guard 100 of then 50 to the left and 50 to the right. Then it was Roll time. just what I was waiting for. He rolled with every one then when he finally got to me I thought now we'll see. the joke was on me. He just played with me. I've trained with Royce, Relson, Daniel, Gustavo MAchado and I'm a 3 stripe blue belt atleast I thought I was. I felt more like a fresh blue belt. It was sweep after sweep and I tapped again and again but he was just smiling and grinning the whole time and looking around at the other guys rolling while he was with me. Here I was giving it all I had. I was so fustrated. But he would show me what I was doing wrong then get into that position again so I could work it. Then I got to watch him roll with the other Brazilian black belt from the Alliance thats there I beleive his name was Paulino. what a show. Luis just smiles sweeps like it's nothing. For those of you that are talking trash...Get a life. He is legit. technical as hell and to watch him and that other alliance black belt roll was great. In one he looked up at me and said remember that sweep I showed you ... watch... then he would nail it and say see it works!!laughing! Luis is a funny guy, cut'n up in class with everyone. well thanks to this forum I signed up at THE ALLIANCE OF CHARLOTTE!!!!!!!! I'll drive 45 mins to train over there while you guys that don't care for him can stay here typing!!! By the way the answer to your Hodas question is at his academy!! HE is a black belt guys sorry to bust your bubble!!! Guess the jokes on you. well gotta run and get some rest I scheduled a Private with Luis for tomorrow!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: who is Luis Togno??? Author: Shaolin_Bushido [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:48:43 12/03/05 Sat Familiarity breeds ContemptThere's the answer for anyone looking for a sincere answer. End of thread, I think. Familiarity breeds Contempt [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: who is Luis Togno??? Author: Jason [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:25:25 07/25/02 Thu The real topic should be "WHO ARE YOU TO CRITICIZE JACARE" [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: who is Luis Togno??? Author: Brandon Weaver [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:03:55 07/25/02 Thu I again say I dont know what to make of all this mess. A year ago I asked one of Luis's guys if they had a 200lb guy who wanted to fight so that we could clear the bad air (bad air that came from an online discussion that went sour). In Tognos defense, the guy could have just been a mouthy student. But after I mentioned a MMA match the guy had nothing else to say. I am glad you are impressed with the guy, but I have seen a purple belt totally spank a senior blue just as you describe you were spanked. The thing everyone wants clear is the Hodas issue. I personally dont care if he is a green,yellos, red sash, or black belt. I am curious as to why he does not jsut answer the thing with his teacher from Puerto Rico. In any event, even if Luis was not a black belt in '98 when the s**t hit the fan with some of the guys in Raleigh, he could be that level now. So what people want to know is was he lying then. The guy gets strong reactions from all sides, If he just answered the questions put to him one way or the other I think alot of this mess would go away. I dont think it is something that will ever go away. But if everyone is happy where they are what difference do a few online barbs make? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]