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Date Posted: 13:15:50 03/30/02 Sat
Author: Alan Yngve
Subject: Re: SL1 Guards Counterattack and variants (topic thread)
In reply to: Marty Fix 's message, "Re: SL1 Guards Counterattack and variants (topic thread)" on 07:11:42 03/30/02 Sat

>Since I am playing Scott currently in this one, I
>don't want him to get all the good hints ;-)

Heh heh ... well, we can certainly try to mention topics here that might help BOTH sides. Maybe that would be fair? :-)

>>I would try to keep it intact as long as possible.
>>The potential of its firepower (16ift+1 versus stone
>>terrain) can provide real concern to the Russians.
>
>I have to agree here.

Note that the play of variants (like my Aachen Redoubt) can change the situation, but i7 gains a very great benefit from its initial distance from the Guard squads and the value of its -2 leader.

>>The big question you need to know first is how is
>>building f5 being defended? If the Germans have good
>>firepower in f6, i7 and perhaps from somewhere farther
>>east, they (the Germans) will be in good position to
>>bring any guard squads that move into the building
>>under fire.
>
>I agree that this would be a factor in what to do with
>i7. Also it is important what is in k4 building. If
>the Germans have strong positons in j4/j5, they can
>put a lot of heat on the guards that have overrun f5
>along with the i7 stack. If they can keep hurting the
>Russians, the only safe place from DM is f5.

Right. Which only reinforces the issues of providing mutual support for each building, especially those that are in danger of an enemy entrance.

Many "Guards Counterattack" games won by the Germans are won because the Germans were able to counterattack into building m5, making up for the loss of two buildings to the Guards. Building m5 can rapidly become a Russian liability because its 447s supported by an 8-0 leader are weak, at best. If too many squads become broken ... it can seem like an eon trying to rally them, and there is no effective support available from the center or the Guard squads, unless the Russians have already taken building k5 in strength.

>>Sometimes it is possible to reinforce building k5 from
>>i7, but other than that there are rarely any better
>>places to move. One thing about "The Guards
>>Counterattack" though, it is very easy for positions
>>to colapse once one building falls, so it is
>>worthwhile to think about what your German deployment
>>will look like in such an event and try to make it as
>>strong as possible.
>
>I think that the fall of f5 is inevitable becuse of
>the Guard strength. What you hope to do is make them
>pay for every step across the road and into f5
>building.

I wouldn't say inevitable. But it will invariably come down to the effectiveness of German firepower. Which means that the Germans have to concentrate in high-powered attacks, hopefully ones that are almost assured of some sort of MC result on the IFT. Note that you can still "miss" on a 36ift+3 by rolling a 12!

OTOH, if building f5 falls too early, it will become very difficult for the Germans to keep the Russians out of buildings i7 and/or k5, and if both i7 and k5 are lost after the loss of building f5, there is almost no way for the Germans to prevent a Russian victory based on building capture.

-- Alan (Sler on VASL)

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