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Date Posted: 13:06:26 08/28/04 Sat
Author: Pedallo
Subject: Re: WTF happened to USPS today?
In reply to: ChrisH 's message, "Re: WTF happened to USPS today?" on 12:40:58 08/28/04 Sat

>>>This shows once again that individual strength rather
>>>than team strength is more important in winning stage
>>>races.
>>No,sorry but in fact the exact opposite is true .
>
>Nah. In stage races, the strongest rider wins most of
>the time. For example, Nozal clearly had the strongest
>team in last year's Vuelta yet Heras, the strongest
>rider, won. In Holland, Dekker's superior sprinting
>made the difference.
****Did you see the race? - Mark Wauters and Lotz made a huge contribution
>
>>Even in one day races these days the team leader needs
>>a strong team if he wants to win.
True, but needing a strong team isn't the same as the
>team making the difference between winning and losing.
>Nowadays, the difference between having the strongest
>captain vs. a mediocre captain is over 10 minutes
>while the difference made by have a strong team vs. a
>mediocre team is only a couple of minutes. In other
>words, you have a much better chance of winning with
>the strongest captain and a mediocre team than with a
>mediocre captain and the strongest team.
*****But the strongest team by definition will not have a mediocre captain. I believe for instance that had Ullrich had a stronger team in the TdF 2003 he might have got even closer to Armstrong.
>
>Anyways, luck and team tactics is more important in
>one-day mass start races than in stage races. Luck can
>go either way in one-day races but tends to even out
>after several days.
*****Sure luck always plays a part - but the same dozen or so men are usually near the top - Bettinis three 2nd places in a row in the CDM is a good example
Team tactics play little or no part in TTs
****Obviously
and HC finishing climbs.
*****No that is where team tactics are of the highest importance - a combination of getting the leader to the final climb in the best possible shape , and helping him for as long as possible - having a rider up the road as a stepping stone etc etc

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