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Subject: In Sodom's gate


Author:
Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 22:02:33 12/27/12 Thu

IN SODOM'S GATE



Genesis 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2 Peter 2:6-8 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)

To sit in the gate was an honor bestowed on the wisest in the Old Testament Bible times. It was a place for business to be transacted and judgment to be meted. It was a place of arbitration and the settling of disputes. It was a position of honor for Lot, the nephew of Abraham, to be allowed to sit in the gate of Sodom.

Lot had left his uncle when their herds had grown too large for them to feed together any longer. The land could not sustain them both so Abraham gave Lot a choice of the land he would dwell in and Lot seeing the abundance of pasture and water in the plain "pitched his tent toward Sodom".(Gen. 13:12)

Lot epitomizes so many today who would put a good job and good salary over the spiritual needs of self and family. The people of Sodom were exceeding wicked people. They were given to homosexuality and many other vises. Lot moved his family into this environment without fully weighing the cost. We see in the end that the cost far exceeded any benefit that Lot had gained by his ill advised choice.

Peter said that his righteous soul was vexed by the filthy conversation of the wicked. Now that word "conversation" does not mean talk and communication. It does include that but it's truest meaning is lifestyle. We hear that a lot today, don't we. The lifestyle of Sodom was a death style just as much as the filthy wickedness of the fornicators, sodomites and lesbians are today.

Lot did not participate in the evil but his eyes and ears were constantly assaulted by what he saw and heard. Not only was his sensibilities under attack but his children's and wife's were also. There is a great lesson here for those of us who would live for the Lord and not be affected by what is going on around us today. First we need to understand that although we are in the world we are not to be of the world. (Jn. 17:15-16) The world has changed drastically and there is more to entice and tempt today than ever before. We can embrace these things or we can "Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls"(Jeremiah 6:16 )

Television, movies, internet, violent video games and sex education in our schools have destroyed the morals that this nation once stood for. What we and our children are seeing cannot be "un-seen". What our ears are hearing cannot be un-heard. They affect all of us and we are becoming desensitized to the immorality that is so pervasive in society today. Our children and grandchildren use words that used to be only heard around the roughest of people. Even they would stop their vulgarity in the presence of women and children but not any more.

Queers are out of the closet and Christians are being shoved in. Political correctness and "hate speech" are destroying the biblical values us older heads were brought up in. We must boldly take a stand against such and teach our children what is right and good and teach by example to stay away from the immoral and wrong. Safe sex is married sex carried out in manner in which God intended when He said "be fruitful and multiply".

Lot saw all the evil and immorality and heard all the filthy and abominable language of Sodom and turned his head. He should have packed his bags and got out before his family was so affected. God told Abraham that He would spare Sodom and the cities of the plain if just 10 righteous people could be found in Sodom. The evidence points to the fact that there was only one and he was sorely vexed by his sojourning in Sodom. When the dust had settled Lot had lost his family down to his two youngest daughters and the only concern they had was they had no man! What a legacy! Two children by incest and and the rest of the family incinerated accept for his wife who was turned into a pillar of salt.

Folks, I'm afraid that is where we are headed today.


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[> Subject: Hillbillly


Author:
Connie
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Date Posted: 12:50:28 12/28/12 Fri

As Daniel Patrick Moynihan so aptly put it "defining deviancy downward" and whereas it began slowly it has accelerated to an alarming degree. Of course those of us who are Bible believers saw what was coming when they kicked God out of the schools (remember the Sandy Hook slaughter) and out of all the public institutions in the U.S. Sadly our worst fears have and are still coming to fruition. Without a national revival such as the Azusa Street Pentacostal revival, the U.S. as a super power will cease to be.
[> [> Subject: I agree we need a revival


Author:
Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 17:16:02 12/28/12 Fri

The trouble is getting people to listen so that the Holy Spirit can reach them. The time you are speaking of is long gone and preachers are having to compete with every form of entertainment imaginable. The attention span of most people is 20 minutes or less unless it is on the big screen and packed with action. About the only other exception I can think of is cell phones and I-pads and the like. I know people that start going through withdrawal if they aren't testing, speaking or listening on one. It's crazy.

People, lost and saved, feared God in the time you mention. Almost no one fears God any more.

The day will soon come this will no longer be true and they will be hiding in the caves and anywhere they can to escape the judgment of God. Then they will fear but it will be too late.
[> [> [> Subject: Hillbilly


Author:
Connie
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Date Posted: 10:58:47 12/29/12 Sat

He meant it when he said "Be still and know that I am God."
[> Subject: A good study, again...


Author:
dori
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Date Posted: 17:01:48 12/29/12 Sat

And very timely, judging by today's craziness. I don't think Christians will be able to turn the tide. We'll just have to look to our families' and our own salvation, and say goodbye to the America we all grew up in.
[> [> Subject: Dori/Hillbilly


Author:
Connie
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Date Posted: 13:43:18 12/30/12 Sun

I refuse to give up hope. There are plenty of people (and churches) all over the country that are praying and I believe God when he said:

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14, King James Version (KJV).

Notice he's speaking to HIS people so it's up to us to pray unceasingly for this nation to return to HIS "lordship" as it was originally established and under which it became the richest nation on earth. The problem is getting HIS people to unite and pray and that will have to come from the churches (all denominations) being led by their priests, pastors, preachers, rabbis. Someone needs to put out a call to them and designate a day, week or even a month to save the nation. "Great things are accomplished thru prayer."
[> [> [> Subject: Connie, I agree


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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 16:43:57 12/30/12 Sun

and I pray for this nation daily and usually more than once. I realize that God will keep His promise to heal this land if we will meet His conditions. I also realize that God has seen the end from the beginning and has written down the history of the world for us to see and understand.

My hope is in the Lord whether this nations turns or whether it burns. Regardless I will keep praying. I love this land the Lord has so generously given to us.

Praise God for all that He has blessed us with.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Oh, I do remember


Author:
Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 22:04:42 12/30/12 Sun

and I also know that the peoples of Canada and the U.S. of A. are so closely tied together that the fate of one will most likely be the fate of the other.

I consider you as being an un-natural naturalized citizen. Un-natural as in peculiar. As in Titus 2:14 and 1 Peter 2:9
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Author:
Connie
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Date Posted: 09:29:46 12/31/12 Mon

Oh my what a compliment. Thank you but I don't think I'm worthy.
[> [> [> Subject: Hillbilly


Author:
Connie
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Date Posted: 18:28:07 12/30/12 Sun

And remember I'm a naturalized citizen.
[> [> [> Subject: And we're proud to have you. 8-)


Author:
dori
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Date Posted: 23:28:54 12/30/12 Sun

You both give me hope that their may be hope for this nation. I will pray harder, too.


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