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Subject: Genesis 41 vss 54-57 Post 193

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Hillbilly

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Date Posted: 19:57:07 04/10/12 Tue

Genesis 41:54-57 And the seven years of dearth began to come, according as Joseph had said: and the dearth was in all lands; but in all the land of Egypt there was bread. 55 And when all the land of Egypt was famished, the people cried to Pharaoh for bread: and Pharaoh said unto all the Egyptians, Go unto Joseph; what he saith to you, do. 56 And the famine was over all the face of the earth: And Joseph opened all the storehouses, and sold unto the Egyptians; and the famine waxed sore in the land of Egypt. 57 And all countries came into Egypt to Joseph for to buy corn; because that the famine was so sore in all lands.

The old song says: "You've got to take the bitter with the sweet". The sweet had passed and the dearth drew on. For seven long years God would cut off the rain from Egypt and the countries around Egypt. In verse 56 it says that the famine was over all the face of the earth. Whether this was world wide or just the known areas at the time we can't be sure. In Noah's day the flood was over the entire world and left it's evidence every where. The lack of rain would only show if you could examine tree rings from around the world from this time frame. The scope of the drought would not be worth arguing for it was for the purpose of bringing the Hebrews to Egypt and was a step in setting up for the eventual fall of Egypt in Moses day.

We should take note the grain that was appropriated from the Egyptians at the rate of 20 per cent of all their crop for seven years is now sold back to them. It is a lucrative set up for Pharaoh and the upper class Egyptians. As has been often stated in our current politics: "Never let a good crises go to waste". As we will soon see if the same setup comes to America there will be plenty of screaming and possibly much more.

As a exercise in comparison how many of us can look backward at the plenty we enjoyed for several years.. Taxes in our earlier years were relatively low and gas was cheap. When I started driving it was around 33 cents a gallon. The last gas I purchased was at $3.84. Taxes have shot out the roof. Not as much in income taxes but all the hidden taxes that raise the price of everything. Our sales tax (In Tennessee) is currently 9.75 per cent. This includes groceries. Almost 10 per cent is added to nearly every purchase I make and this is in addition to all the other taxes I already pay. If the Egyptians were only taxed at 20 per cent they would be getting a bargain if it were not for the duration of the drought which caused them to have to sell all their land just to buy food..

Joseph, I am satisfied, is doing the will of God in this. Egypt is marked for the scrap heap in their not too distant future. They were an idol worshiping people who had rejected the God of Creation for their own created Gods. While Joseph is the instrument of God for the totalitarian setup where the state will own all the land and have total control of it's people, it is in God's purpose to set an example for other's to see. This is why I see in the political theater of the time a picture of what is about to happen on a much larger scale across the globe as we approach the tribulation period and the subsequent advent of our Lord back to set up His Kingdom on earth..

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[> Subject: Sounds like Joseph was definitely guided by God
Author: dori [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:12:34 04/11/12 Wed It all seems to be leading up to a big showdown.

[> Subject: Interesting
Author: Caren [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:58:07 04/11/12 Wed Do you believe in the PreTrib rapture Hillbilly? I am hoping for it!

[> [> Subject: Yes Caren

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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 19:00:22 04/12/12 Thu

I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture just as I believe in the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord. The Bible is laid out in a pre-millennial pre-tribulation format.

Enoch is translated before the flood. Enoch type of Church/flood type of tribulation.

Joseph marries a Gentile bride while away from his people and before the great dearth of 7 years which is a type of tribulation.

Moses marries a Gentile bride before the exodus. Wife is a type of Church. Exodus with plagues and destruction is type of tribulation.

Paul writes to 7 Churches. John writes to 7 Churches.
Paul writes in 1st Thessalonians about the rapture in Chapter 4. In 2nd Thessalonians Paul writes of the "man of sin" (anti-Christ). Thessalonica is the last Church Paul writes to. The order then is the rapture and then the anti-Christ at the end of the period of the 7 Churches.

John, in Revelation, writes to the 7 Churches and immediately after the the 7th Church (Laodicea) You have a type of rapture (Rev. 4:1-2). John hears the voice as a trumpet that says "come up hither" and he immediately is in Heaven before God's throne. The anti-Christ shows up in Chapter 6:1 riding the white horse with the opening of the first seal.

This is just a short list of reasons I believe in a pre-trib rapture of the Church.

[> [> [> Subject: Hillbilly
Author: Gerryb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:40:01 04/12/12 Thu I am also a pre-millennial pre-tribulation Christian. I think that you knew that already.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Yes Gerry
Author: Hillbilly [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:26:25 04/13/12 Fri I do remember that. It is the only conclusion for one who believes the Bible for what it says when correctly divided.

[> [> [> Subject: Thank You Hillbilly
Author: Caren [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:47:36 04/14/12 Sat Very reassuring!!

[> Subject: Hillbilly

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Connie
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Date Posted: 16:15:50 04/14/12 Sat

I too believe in a Pre-Trib rapture and the way things are going I suspect it's not too far off (or maybe it's wishful thinking). Speaking of taxes, I find it ironic that God only demands 10% but for greedy governments (man) there's never enough money and they keep demanding more and more. Sooner or later the well is going to go dry (in other words, the producers will quit producing). Then what!

[> [> Subject: Yes, we also have farmer's markets

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Hillbilly
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Date Posted: 21:03:18 04/14/12 Sat

with fresh produce and many of us also have gardens. I set out tomato plants today. Have corn, green beans and mustard already planted also.

In the next week or so I will plant squash, cucumbers, peppers and later a few rows of purple hull peas.

Yum yum.

While our sales tax is high we don't have a state income tax. I don't mind the high sales tax per-se but what I object to is a tax on food. There should never be a tax on food nor medications. Sales taxes, otherwise, to me any way, are the fairest form of tax as everyone pays. Nearly half the nation pays no income tax and that places the burden on workers.

[> Subject: Hillbilly
Author: Connie [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:28:54 04/14/12 Sat BTW my sales tax is 7.75% and there's no tax on food. Also we have a farmers market every Saturday where you can buy all the fresh fruit and produce you want so even though people complain about California's high cost of living they never take into consideration the other benefits Californians are blessed with.

[> Subject: As a person who knows nothing about pre-tribulation

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dori
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Date Posted: 22:24:14 04/14/12 Sat

or any kind of tribulation, I guess I don't have a belief in it or a non-belief. I just read from others and learn. 8-)

I'm going over to Indiana for the rest of the weekend and into the middle of next week, so I will not be checking in here. I hope to peek in when I get back and see lots more great conversations like I read in this thread.
God bless you all!
xoxo