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Date Posted: 12:04:44 09/16/04 Thu
Author: hermes
Subject: Re:to Mama Gillen
In reply to: hermes 's message, "Re:to Mama Gillen" on 09:02:40 09/16/04 Thu

>>I seriously doubt Ray abused drugs; somehow that just
>>doesn't fit--tho very little of the man's real and
>>private life is known. I've tried to find info on him
>>online, but even when people are asked about him in
>>interviews, no one says much except "great guy,"
>>"phenomenal talent" or just "I knew him, RIP." I've
>>never had so much difficulty finding information on
>>someone before.
>>Ray commented in a late-80s interview that while he
>>drinks his share, he's not excessive and doesn't party
>>because "I want to stay healthy" (he was dead about 5
>>years later). Glenn Hughes has said that Ray was in
>>serious denial about his disease and would always tell
>>him he didn't have it, he said they both watched the
>>tribute to Freddie Mercury together and Ray told him
>>again he didn't have AIDS. Hughes said Ray once showed
>>him bloodwork to prove it, only later Glenn found out
>>it was actually Ray's brother's-in-law--not Ray's.
>>Even Ray's mom denied it was AIDS.
>>I do think it's short-sighted to presume he may have
>>been gay or a drug user to contract it. While men are
>>less likely to contract AIDS from a woman than they
>>are to transmit it to either sex, it is entirely
>>possible. Ray was gorgeous, charismatic and gifted. I
>>have no doubt he had his pick of ladies. He may have
>>experimented sexually, been promiscuous or tried drugs
>>in his younger days and contracted it, long before
>>anyone even knew what AIDS was. He could have had a
>>blood transfusion and gotten it. He could have been
>>bisexual. No one's talking, so we may never know.
>>If Ray was in such denial about his disease, as all
>>reports seem to suggest (Glenn commented that Ray
>>"left a lot of unanswered questions for people," and
>>also mentioned that Ray and his girlfriend would visit
>>Glenn's house before Ray died--you have to wonder if
>>Ray transmitted the disease to anyone else. Badlands
>>saw their share of groupies. Someone had suggested he
>>dated the chick Susie Owens from the "Winter's Call"
>>video; she was a Playmate and he was a rock star, so
>>you can assume that if it's true, they slept together.
>>He also has a daughter, Ashley, who'd probably be
>>about... 20 now I guess. I get the impression he
>>contracted the disease after her birth.
>>That's about all I know and there aren't any answers,
>>but I hope some of that helps a little with all the
>>Ray questions on the board.
>I met Ray in the 80's in Jersey when he was with
>Rondinelli.Right when I heard him sing I knew this guy
>had It;his voice & style was very unique;you could
>tell his singing was in a totally different level.I
>play guitar & back then I
>I played lead guitar in various bands & never found a
>lead singer that would go out on his own;they would
>either be a clone of whoever/or whatever was hot at
>the time;or just a screamer;but Ray was totally
>original;you could hear the influences ;but he was
>still in a class by himself;the attention & the offers
>he started receiving from the established bands in the
>business was a testament to the fact that he had IT.I
>saw him at the Ritz & at a club in upstate N.Y. & NO
>ONE could hold a candle to what he was doing with his
>voice;he KNEW how to sing;I saw him once more in a
>city bus (of all places) in Cliffside Prk,N.J.,I was
>on the way to see my girlfriend & he was on the way
>home;he immediatley recognized me & got up to say
>hello!. What struck me about him was the down to
>earth;kindness that he had toward other people;& also
>here was this guy that was playing the major circuits
>& now was going to sing with BLACK SABBATH,& he still
>had his feet on the ground & remembered someone who
>had bumped into him months ago!Right away I knew he
>was a special person along with the IMMENSLY talented
>singer that he was.I can't imagaine what his talent
>would have brought him;because he was one of the best
>rock singers that i've ever heard;& I know that you've
>heard it all before;but it was a GREAT honor to be
>able to see him sing live & appreciate that here was a
>talent of HUGE porportions that would at any given
>moment EXPLODE into the ROCK WORLD & make his mark in
>music.Mrs. Gillen ,your son was GREAT.

Mama Gillen;
can you tell me about the name Gillen,is it Spanish?It sounds Spanish;Being from a Spanish family myself,it sounds like it.If you don't mind me asking.

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