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Date Posted: 22:00:40 02/23/07 Fri
Author: Chuck in ND
Subject: Interesting...
In reply to: Cricket 's message, "Went there" on 06:02:42 02/23/07 Fri

So far dh is 2 for 2. He accurately predicted what Jay and Cricket would say.

He has tarred everyone who serves with his personal agenda.
It is one thing to point out errors, but he is full of hyperbole and does not provide a suitable frame of reference for his agenda.

Therefore he is suspect.

What is suspect? What he reports? What he's reported is a matter of record--video record, displayed for everyone to see on the internet. He has not said one lie, not one. He is only reporting what is being done.

What "suitable frame of reference" do you think he lacks? Call me crazy, but I just can't think any "suitable frame of reference" for babies to be shot in the back of the head. Is there ever "suitable frame of reference" for men to destroy a poor man's car with a tank? Maybe we'd feel better knowing there really was a good reason for a 14yo girl to be gang raped while she listened to her family being shot in the next room?

Hyperbole? Hardly. These video clips only represent the tip of the iceberg. For every video in this article, there are 100 incidents that go unfilmed. Faced with the magnitude and quantity of these acts, I think Raimondo is the epitome of restraint. You do realize that at least 2-3 of those clips were so horrific you could only watch them after registering and verifying you are over 18?

Me? I couldn't handle it. After watching only 5-6 of these videos, I finally lost it. We were at the library (because they have high-speed wireless, we have dial up) and I left about 1/3 of they way through the one about Abraham's Children. I went out to the car and cried. I cried the rest of the afternoon. Dh held me for 20 min when we got home as I cried for every mother who held her dead baby, for every little girl screaming in terror, covered with her mother's blood, for every little boy tormented by armed men who are getting paid with MY money to be bullies.

Tarred everyone who serves? With good reason--I think it is safe to say that there is not one single unit that does not have innocent blood on its hands. Not everyone in the unit, but if they haven't indulged in some sort of cruelty, they know someone who has and have done nothing to see them punished. There were about 20 video clips in this article, representing about 100-150 participants. Now multiply that by 100 and you see that thousands--not a handful, not a few bad apples--thousands of soldiers have engaged in similar atrocities.

Hussein is accused of being responsible for 500,000-1,000,000 deaths (it's probably a fraction of that. You'll notice that there've been no more reports on the exhumation of mass graves. It was too embarrassing because the graves were yielding about 1/8 the reported bodies.) That's about 20,000-40,000 deaths per year that he ruled. The British Medical Journal Lancet has reported 600,000 Iraqi deaths as a direct result of the war--about 150,000 per year under American rule. And that's not counting the 2 million dead from our embargo.

So, the question remains: Are the Iraqi's better off?

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