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Date Posted: 10:10:51 09/13/06 Wed
Author: Chuck in ND
Subject: I think the key to remember is
In reply to: Jay 's message, "Any suggestions?" on 12:37:46 09/12/06 Tue

that it's not whether or not it's "practiced correctly". That's one of the arguments from libertarians that I object to: USPS is wrong because it's inefficient, public ed is wrong because it delivers poor education, Soc Sec is bad because it doesn't work. Well, even if all these programs suddenly started being efficient and delivering the promised goods they would still be wrong because they are based on bad principles.

At the foundation of Communism is the assumption that there is no God. Communism says "The problems in today's world are due to economics. All we need to have a perfect world is to have the perfect economic and political structure." Those who believe in God recognize that man is flawed and nothing man builds will ever produce a perfect world. The only source of perfection is God. Communism is idolatry at it's worst (well almost worst.)

So even if Communism is perfectly, flawlessly implemented (and we've yet to see that happen) it still requires society to reject God.

**A sort of side note: We've been checking out Star Trek:The Next Generation DVDs from the library and just this week we watched The Masterpiece Society--the episode where the Enterprise crew discover a planet colonized by genetic idealists. They'd genetically controlled all births for 100's of years to create the perfect society, where everyone was disease- and disability-free, everyone was perfectly compatible for their carreer, etc. I discussed this idea with 11yods and asked him what the problems were with this idea. Of course the show points out several flaws in their reasoning. But this show gave us the perfect opportunity to discuss the dangers of seeking Utopia outside the framework of the gospel. Maybe you could find a show or book that will elicit a similar discussion?

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