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Date Posted: 00:05:55 09/02/02 Mon
>Ken, thank you for reconnecting with us. You were
>missed.
Me too, me too, I want to say something too!!!!! My comments come after John's....
>I want to respond to a number of things Ken has
>posted. I have liberal quotes here to try to keep
>things clear. Sorry if it goes back and forth too much.
>
>>I guess you could say I am depressed, although it
>>doesn't usually feel like depression so much as simple
>>irritability and lack of energy. It comes and goes.
>
>Man, this has been a tough year for all of us. I also
>have difficulty finding the energy and that has been
>coupled with extreme sadness. Someday I will be able
>to talk about what has been happening.
No fucking shit!!!! I believe timing is everything. When I had moved out back in Dec. and I was sharing my fears of fear and worry and depression and feeling alone...you guys were in a good place and I could lean on you men for support. I suggest Ken AND John, that you guys do the same. Yes, I am in a better place now. I would be honored to have you men lean on me for help.(until a woman comes by, then I may need you to lean the other way...so as not to cramp my style.) :)
I want to suggest again, that you guys go see the movie "SIGNS". I continue to be amazed at the synchronisity of life. I flow in and out of people's lives and vice versa for a reason and a desire. The signs are around us. Find your signs!!! See what the world you live in is trying to tell you!
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>>I am trying to write, but I am frustrated at the lack
>>of time. I labor over everything I write, and the
>>time I do spend seems like just odd moments at odd
>>intervals.
>
>Hey, that sounds exactly like my own writing
>experiences on any given day of the year! Welcome to
>my life. Sorry. I do understand that this means
>something different for you because of your goals.
>Sometimes these things seem like they'll never end,
>but I have faith that you'll be back on track very
>soon. When I look at how much you've written over the
>last 2 years, not to mention the quality, I know you
>will make it as a writer.
Ken, we all have faith in you. You are a very good writer and storyteller. Your Mags segments bring me such joy. As my idol Jon Anderson sings, I rededicate these words TO KEN. An expression of my gift of support to You.
I awoke this morning
Love laid me down by the river
Drifting I turned on up stream
Bound for my forgiver
In the giving of my eyes to see your face
Sound did silence me
Leaving no trace
I beg to leave, to hear your wonderous stories
Beg to hear your wonderous stories
He spoke of lands not far
Nor lands they were in his mind
Of fusion captured high
Where reason captured his time
In no time at all he took me to the gate
In haste I quickly
Checked the time
If I was late
I had to leave, to hear your wonderous stories
Had to hear your wonderous stories
Hearing
Hearing hearing your wonderous stories
Hearing your wonderous stories
It is no lie I see deeply into the future
Imagine everything
You're close
And were you there
To stand so cautiously at first
And then so high
As he spoke my spirit climbed into the sky
I bid it to return
To hear your wonderous stories
Return to hear your wonderous stories
Return to hear your wonderous stories
Keep being wonderful Ken!!!
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>>I think the level of participation is
>>in keeping with the general acceptance by everyone
>>that our unusual friendship is winding to a close.
>
>Excuse me? If we wind this thing down it will be from
>our own choosing. I won't speak for the others, but I
>am not withdrawing my friendship, nor am I fading away.
Nor I, as I've joked around, the ratio of Jeff Comments vs everyone else's Comments has got to be 3 to 1. You guys are a part of who I am. You are family.
>>I am extremely disappointed that we have not gotten
>>together. September would have been ideal for me, but
>>that opportunity is past, as the deadline for
>>September vacation requests has passed. We can
>>certainly meet some time in October, but I want and
>>need a vacation as well, and Phoenix is not my idea of
>>a vacation spot.
Oct. will not work for me as my pre-trial hearing for the divorce is Oct. 2nd. This date will either end the marriage or determine that we go to fucking trial. Thats why I've suggested a Nov. Dec. visit.
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>I'm sorry, Ken, but I thought you told us all you were
>taking your vacation in the Summer while I was gone.
>Perhaps I remember this wrong. My suggestion for Phx,
>again, was also accounting for your need to stay in
>town to work. I guess we all need to look at this
>issue again and see what we can possibly work out.
>
Thats right John, Ken you did state you were taking time off. Thats one of the reasons I have've hassled you cuz I thought you were probably ON vacation. Sorry to hear that work is so frustrating.
>>John has talked about his friends moving away and how
>>it makes him feel alone. To be perfectly candid, I
>>don't have any other friends I hold in esteem as high
>>as I do you three. Lots of acquaintances, some I even
>>call friends, but I have never connected with any
>>other men the way I have with you.
Hey, go do a warrior weekend! hehe....you'll get that group of friends you can trust and rely on for support.(just an idea.)
Thanks for the nice words Ken.
>>Now, John's Thailand trips seem to have trumped our
>>reunion, Jeff seems primarily interested in getting
>>his dick wet, and Curt is so busy with work and family
>>that there's nothing left over. These are gross
>>generalizations, but essentially accurate, I feel.
>
>Yes, there is some truth here, but I feel that you are
>overstating this. I haven't been choosing Thailand
>over you guys so that I can frolic by the beach. I
>have been deeply involved with Aoy and that had the
>potential for reshaping my life in a big way.
>
>I can also see that you're uncomfortable with the way
>Jeff has been talking about his latest exploits. In my
>view, Jeff is being his wacky self, building up the
>experiences the same way he can describe our reunions
>as a cabal for world domination. I also understand
>that he has wasted too many of his years with Kim and
>he's got to work this out of his system. He clearly
>states his priority is our friendship, even though he
>likes to threaten to withdraw if we don't participate.
>Jeff=drama.
Hehe, yes, Jeff IS drama. Sure I take some truth of my sexual triumphs and slap a smartass twist to it. I do that because I know I can break away and be crass and obnoxious with you guys and 'talk' like a horrible jackass. Its fun for me and a nice release. Seriously, I AM enjoying the female energy I've been entwined with these few months. Its healing and comforting and reenergizes me. I feel wanted and desired and less likely to get depressed.
>Curt has been busy, but I have learned this much about
>him. He has excellent priorities and if he wants
>something 9 times out of 10 he can make it happen. If
>we plan a meeting, Curt's the last one I worry about
>not making it.
>
>>I disagreed with Curt when he said we were growing
>>apart, but he was right.
>
>Relationships take two, or more. I'll say it again.
>I'm not giving up and I'm not going. The rest is up to
>you.
REMEMBER: FEAR IS USELESS, TRUST IS WHAT IS NEEDED. Trust that we will still be at your side when you are in need. Trust that we can work together and see each other soon. Trust that we will stay connected. Trust that when I get on the plane, and the 747 Midwest Express flight is over Phx. that Midwest Express DOESN"T take just ANYONE to cross the picket line to fly their planes.
Captain: "This is your new capt. speaking...as we fly over Phx. wave hello AND goodbye as we will be flying directly BACK to Milwaukee.
Passengers: ?????(mumble, mumble)
Captain: Sorry for the inconveniece folks but apparently one of our passengers, A Mr. Jeff Nerone, thinks he's just gonna fly off to see his 'buddies' and NOT be held responsible for LEAVING his family 10 months ago!
Passengers: ?????(mumble, mumble)
Captain: So prepare for a quick turn around and another 3 hr flight back. You can thank Mr. Nerone for the inconvenience. Capt. Kim Nerone out.
Passenger sitting at row 24C (Jeff Nerone) Nnnnnnooooooo!!!!!!
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>>One bright spot has been Laura, a co-worker of mine
>>with whom I have grown very close. She is very sweet
>>and kind-hearted, intelligent and funny, and she feels
>>the same about me.
>
>That's wonderful. Good luck on building this new
>friendship.
If you need any pointers Ken, Come sit down and tell Mr. X
all your troubles. :)
>>It was a big thrill to get my copy of Futures in the
>>mail with my story published in it. I'm optimistic
>>they will publish my other story, too.
>
>1. Where do I get a copy of this thing?
>2. Which story did you submit after the first one?
The story is THE STORYREADER. Ken mentioned the mag was distributed by Barnes & Noble, but I don't see it out here in midwest.
Its 1am, I'm tired and my nose is running and my throat is getting sore.....you guys KEEP writing here. Especially if you are feeling down. DON"T fade off especially when sad, keep us posted, every day if that's what it takes.
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