| Subject: Re: Summer's over, time to discuss marijuana legalisation |
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Date Posted: 23:55:19 09/19/02 Thu
In reply to:
Astrid
's message, "Re: Summer's over, time to discuss marijuana legalisation" on 09:51:22 09/19/02 Thu
I'm not sure being stoned twice qualifies you as an expert:-). And since your hash experience was combined with alcohol, you would be experiencing a very different kind of stone than you would have had you had the hash straight. And of course it would depend on the type of hash etc. I did a *lot* of hash in my life. I would do 6 or 7 aspirin sized knife tokes in a session. I can assure you is a very heavy buzz. An equivalent amount of pot would definitely stone you out, but it is a lighter buzz. Hash was definitely my preference, but not because it was a "happier" buzz.
There are also a lot of different factors involved in how you experience a buzz. Your mood, your surroundings, your company, the form of the pot you are doing, where it was made, what it was cut with. The level of THC in it. Etc. I've never felt overly mean on pot. Unless I was already in that kind of mood.
>>I would suggest that you just didn't do enough.
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>No, I had a stone on twice at least--but it wasn't an
>intoxicated feeling like with booze. Hash gave me a
>euphoric, floating feeling, so much more of what I
>expected a "high" to be like,
Yeah, I'd be ok with that. I always thought booze should have been illegal. I've never seen a group of people stoned on pot start fights the way you see at closing time in a bar. But I've got no illusions that that is even a remote possibility.
>By this logic we should criminalise booze, then. In
>relatively small doses it can seriously impair
>judgment and functioning and also can't be combined
>with many, many drugs. Let's outlaw booze and
>legalise pot, how about?
I totally don't see that happening. Many drugs were not illegal in the 60's. Didn't stop them from becoming popular. And pot is a lot more mainstream now than it ever was when I was a teenager, and if anything more kids are using it now than did then. So I don't buy it. When I started smoking, I could buy cigarettes at the corner store next door to my school no questions asked. A lot more kids smoked then than smoke now. Smoking isn't so cool now as it was then. I wonder if that doesn't have something to do with the fact that they are hard to get. I have had 17 yo guys ask me to buy them smokes lately.
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>I suspect that's what
>the lower age limit was all about, too--kids tend to
>find anything illicit appealing, so drinking underage
>is far cooler for most of us than drinking once we're
>legal. I know I did the bulk of my experimenting when
>I was underage--I was more likely to have friends over
>for a board game in college than for a booze-up.
>
> I'd be ok with it if we criminalized alcohol
>>consumption and replaced it with legalized marijuana
>>though:-).
>
>LOL, I should read before I post, it's save me time.
>
Yeah, and I damn near did get caught a number of times. If I had, it wouldn't have been good for me. I'll definitely give you that. But I was a drug dealer. Do you really want me teaching your kids? Maybe not:-). I'm a pretty straight and boring grown up now so maybe I shouldn't have to pay for that for my life, but I made a (series of them!!) decision knowing full well what the risks were. I did it time and time again.
As for organised crime. For the most part, they have bigger fish to fry than marijuana. Pot doesn't give you profits like Meth. And I'm really not in favour of legalizing harder drugs. And really pot is an entry level drug (hackneyed, but true) and I'm comfortable with the way things are right now.
>I think there are many compelling reasons to
>decriminalise pot. The societal and financial cost of
>keeping it illegal is HUGE. Imagine that you HAD
>gotten caught buying or selling it. You'd never be
>allowed to enter the US for starters, so no Disneyland
>for your kids. You'd have to declare your record on
>your job applications, and while many people would
>look the other way, perhaps as a teacher that would
>really hurt your opportunities. Your entire life
>right now could be different because of a pretty minor
>mistake.
>
>The biggest reason IMO for legalising or
>decriminalising it is because its now a major part of
>organised crime, and I think we need to work hard to
>dismantle that underworld as much as we can--the costs
>of that world's existence are onerous.
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