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Subject: Re: Summer's over, time to discuss marijuana legalisation


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Astrid
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Date Posted: 13:52:46 09/20/02 Fri
In reply to: Siannach 's message, "Re: Summer's over, time to discuss marijuana legalisation" on 23:55:19 09/19/02 Thu

>I'm not sure being stoned twice qualifies you as an
>expert:-).

Er, where did that come from? Meow.

This was my original comment:
" I dunno, Michelle, I have used pot, alcohol, Gravol, cough medicine. Of all these, pot affected me the least. Pot affected my perceptions but didn't make groggy, sleepy, uncoordinated, etc."

Did I say somewhere that I was an "expert"? I was sharing my experience as it influences my opinion in this debate.

Sorry, but I don't think you need to be an ex-drug dealer to have an opinion on the legalisation of marijuana. Plenty of people who have never tried it feel entitled to their opinions of it as well, so what?

>I totally don't see that happening. Many drugs were
>not illegal in the 60's. Didn't stop them from
>becoming popular.

They became popular once they were decriminalised? Isn't that what we're discussing?

I think we need to look to places where prohibition has existed and then been lifted to look at the effects of decriminalising a substance. Strange that the Dutch are still alive.

And pot is a lot more mainstream
>now than it ever was when I was a teenager, and if
>anything more kids are using it now than did then.

Stats, please.

So
>I don't buy it. When I started smoking, I could buy
>cigarettes at the corner store next door to my school
>no questions asked. A lot more kids smoked then than
>smoke now. Smoking isn't so cool now as it was then.
>I wonder if that doesn't have something to do with the
>fact that they are hard to get. I have had 17 yo guys
>ask me to buy them smokes lately.

Nah. I don't think I see less kids smoking now than when I was in high school, but I also don't think it's hard to get cigarettes. Plenty of places don't card and there are enough older friends, sibs and parents willing to do the buying. It's just like booze--I don't think kids have ever had a hard time getting it.

Research shows that prohibition doesn't work. Hasn't, even in cultures where drug use was punishable by death.


>Yeah, and I damn near did get caught a number of
>times. If I had, it wouldn't have been good for me.
>I'll definitely give you that. But I was a drug
>dealer. Do you really want me teaching your kids?
>Maybe not:-). I'm a pretty straight and boring grown
>up now so maybe I shouldn't have to pay for that for
>my life, but I made a (series of them!!) decision
>knowing full well what the risks were. I did it time
>and time again.

Do you really think you shouldn't be teaching kids? Based on drug experimentation you engaged in as a kid?

>As for organised crime. For the most part, they have
>bigger fish to fry than marijuana.

You're not following the crime trends in BC, then.

Pot doesn't give
>you profits like Meth.

Selling BC pot in the US is very profitable. You wouldn't have as much going south as does otherwise, given the risks.

The largest cash crop in BC is none other than BC Bud. It's a good business to be in (if you are willing to risk jail time).

And I'm really not in favour of
>legalizing harder drugs. And really pot is an entry
>level drug (hackneyed, but true) and I'm comfortable
>with the way things are right now.

Well, I guess oxygen would be a gateway drug too, then. This is a myth which has been debunked many times over. The vast, vast majority of pot users never go on to abuse hard drugs. The vast majority of hard drug users did use pot first. They also used alcohol underage, smoked from a young age, and had many other common behaviours. You simply cannot establish causation, and even common sense dictates otherwise.

Astrid

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