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Subject: Re: fundamentalism is scary


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Raisinmom
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Date Posted: 16:18:23 07/16/02 Tue
In reply to: Astrid 's message, "Re: fundamentalism is scary" on 12:54:58 07/16/02 Tue

>It is not civilised or moral behaviour, and it is
>evil, AND I understand it. :-)
...
>Maybe it's the psych student in me.

All righty then. But I still don't understand it. Maybe I am hampered by being a lawyer.

>I don't think that two groups can coexist without
>understanding. Until europeans had some kind of
>compassion for the black experience, some kind of
>understanding of who black people were, they were able
>to treat them like animals. If you've never met a
>Jew, it is easy to believe the lies that people spread
>about them. It takes knowledge and understanding to
>fight bigotry.

But those are two different things. I don't think you need to understand the other side to reach a viable compromise. I do think that not "understanding" others can, however, lead to bias. But that doesn't mean you couldn't reach a viable compromise anyway.

>The Palestinians in the 1920s and 30s believed that
>they were in danger of becoming an oppressed minority
>in their own land--their economy was crumbling, and
>they had been promised an independence that Britain
>later denied, and they viewed Britain as siding with
>Zionists in Palestine.

All right. I hear what you're saying, but I think we're going in circles.

>Well it would make no more sense for them to attack
>Britain now than it would for them to attack Jews who
>they see as having displaced them. And then (as now)
>they were powerless to attack Britain--it isn't like
>they had a navy that could have coordinated such an
>attack.

Oh, I agree completely. I was just taking issue with your apparent acceptance of Palestinian anger at Jews for allegedly taking away the Palestinian "right to autonomy and self-determination" when of course that was not the Jews' doing.

>Notorious for slanting his pieces in an
>anti-American/capitalist way or for pointing out
>factual inaccuracies?

Oops, sorry for being unclear. Notorious for slanting his pieces in an anti-American/anti-capitalist way.

>Every writer has his own slant.

Yes, indeed.

>I haven't heard about "to fisk"--where did you catch
>that one?

From my right-wing friends. :) Believe it or not, I'm considered a softie lefty by most.

>>Re: Canada: We DO love you.
>
>But you find us unbearably dull, too. ;-) It's ok,
>we understand...

No, no! Come on, you have great comedians, beautiful nature and your RCMP have very snazzy outfits. Funny, I'm often on the other end of the spectrum here in NYC: the rest of the state (and pretty much the rest of the country) doesn't like us, except for a brief blip of love and sympathy after September 11, and they think we're all crazy.

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