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Date Posted: 20:14:41 05/04/09 Mon
Author: Ed Benyukhis
Subject: Re: >>sigh<<-Lets talk about these threads
In reply to: JB 's message, "Re: >>sigh<<-Lets talk about these threads" on 19:48:41 05/04/09 Mon

John Blackwell,

You are full of shit! I sent you an email in private because I did not want drama on this board or any other board. My response to Tashi's post was exactly that, a simple answer to her question - "yes Akiva was out of Angel and Tomy", no qualifications, not discussions.

What I sent you in private, in response to your email,obviously intent on protecting your interests was between you and me and I told you to leave it at that. I could not give a hoot about dog politics and if you insist to drag this through mud and you wish me to post my opinions here I will gladly do that. Do you? What have you done with your dogs other than health test them? Just because you live close to Harris and use his breeding stock on occasion does not make your kennel dogs any better or good, for that matter. Do you? Here is the email thread that I saved. You wanted drama? Enjoy!!!!

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Ed, evidently there has been some sort of problem with Akiva. I have not hear...

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Ed, evidently there has been some sort of problem with Akiva. I have not heard anything about it except your references to it on the board.
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Hi John,

Yes, unfortunately so! We decided to euthanize her because her aggressive behavior deteriorated and she became a liability. The proverbial straw that broke the camel's back was her attacking a non-threatening stranger. The damage from that one bite was substantial as you know it could be with a dog as strong as a Boerboels are. It was a toughest decision to make and Jessica is still hurting. But it had to be done.

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Ed, evidently there has been some sort of problem with Akiva. I have not heard anything about it except your references to it on the board.
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Hi Ed,
I am sorry to hear about Akiva and sorrier yet that the first I knew of the situation was what I read on the message board. What you posted--on a thread where someone is trying to suggest that I have deceptive sales tactics and a poor breeding program (none of which is true)--makes it look like I sold you a pup with a poor temperament.
If you remember my response when you first asked me about protection training I said that I had never trained, or tried to train, any of my dogs in protection BECAUSE I had no experience in that field and I was afraid that I could take a dog that would protect me if the need ever arose and teach him to bite when I wanted, even if he saw to threat. I said that I was afraid that less than professional training could create a dog that might misinterpret me, my actions, or the situation, and think I wanted him to bite even though he would normally see no need. I said that I didn't want to encourage unnecessary aggression in one of my dogs. We do not know if this is what happened with Akiva, but we don't know it is not the base cause. Your post makes it look as if the problem was caused by a dog I bred and sold that had weak nerves. This is also possible, but none of her relatives up her line or her extended family including aunts, uncles, or cousins have demonstrated tendencies to bite without cause. Just perhaps her actions were not the result of poor breeding.
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John,

First, it was not my post but an answer to Tashi's question. Please go take a closer look.

Second, I resent the fact that you are implying that our actions were the direct cause of Akiva's issues. I am absolutely positive that what we did or did not do with Akiva could not have been a base cause for such drastic aggression issues. She could not make good decisions as a stable nerved dog would do. She was unpredictable and unreliable. Yes, I am telling you that you sold me a nerve-bag. You convinced my daughter and I that you had amazing dogs with great temperaments and we were naive enough to believe you. Have you taken Angel and Tommy (or any of your other dogs, for that matter) out into public, into stressful situations? No! Have you tested their ability to handle stress healthily without snapping under the pressure? No! Your motto is that these dogs are "rural dogs and don't need to go out into public". A stable nerved dog, though, would be able to handle any one of those situations with very little stress.

Akiva was on the sleeve twice in her lifetime. We spent 2 1/2 years socializing her and working competition obedience. Those 2 times on the sleeve could not turn her into an aggressive and unpredictable dog. Her defense drive was way out of wack, and the decoy was scared to work her, even though this was her first time ever seeing a sleeve! Now, can you honestly say that a dog that reacts immediately with defense to a man with a sleeve, not even acting threatening yet, has a stable temperament? I may not be a professional trainer, but I've worked enough dogs in obedience and protection to know that the latter is not true.

When we took Akiva out into public, she snapped under the pressure of being out in public. That is the epitome of a weak-nerved dog! I have never seen you work your dogs at all. How do you KNOW what they can do? How do you know what they can't do? All you do is health testing and, we all know, in the boerboel community, that is not enough. It is as necessary to have a stable-nerved dog as it is to have a physically healthy dog. These dogs can be dangerous; you know that. No matter how much work we did with Akiva, she would always revert to her weak genetics as her foundations. That is not our fault.

Do I sound emotional? You're damn right I am. We put so much into this dog, financially and emotionally, only to find out that we couldn't do anything with her. We couldn't take her out in public; we couldn't take her to competitions. She was simply too unpredictable and unreliable.

Do I want to assess your blame in public? No. Nor do I want you to tell me that I am the one to blame. Let's just leave it at that.


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