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Subject: Kandepen killed


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Ulutange
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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2007, 11:51:37am

Kandepen Teacher shot dead in Mt.Hagen
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[> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Chiko
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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2007, 01:26:05pm

This was confirmed and mastermind behind it was Don Polye and his tribesmen with some Kuli people at Avi where Don is based. The Teachers Andy Toap is one of the key witnesses in the court of disputed returns filed by Alfred Manase for the Kandep Open Seat against Don. This is a work of a desperate man trying to cling onto power. Don will pay the price.

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[> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2007, 01:40:32pm

This certainly is disturbing! I hope his murder wasn't an act of premeditated retaliation from tribal conflicts back home in Kandep. Otherwise, it must be the work of some political or primitive rogues in the Western Highlands. I never really liked Mt. Hagen nor Western Highlanders for the jealousy and backstabbing attitude they possess towards Engans.

My symphathies and prayers go out to the family of the considerate teacher who risked his life leaving the comfort and security of the cabin only to go outside the truck in order to check up on the condition of others seated in the back. And what about his daughter?! These perpetrators are sadistically inhumane without remorse nor empathy. My guess is (though I pray to The Almighty that it wasn't so) that the daughter may have been raped and brutally slain.

What was the reason for this senseless attack?? Are there any Kandepens in the forum who might be able to clarify??

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[> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2007, 02:00:30pm

Chiko, I have noticed your persistence in defaming and assassinating the reputation, character and good name of a national leader and politician. And I never really took it seriously until now! To tell you the truth, in the back of my mind, I had suspected Don Polye in some way or another to have been involved in the brutal slaying and abduction of the teacher's daughter.

My hunch comes from two reasons..1) The teacher was murdered senselessly in Mt. Hagen, an area where Polye has strong ties, maybe moreso than with his native Kandep. 2) A possible motive prevails from the looming battle at the Court of Disputed Returns between Polye and his formidable foe in lawyer Alfred Manase..

If this is an act of a desperate and power wielding politician, than his conspiracy to commit murder and abduct an innocent underaged female relative of the deceased MUST be uncovered, and the fight to bring him to justice for his crimes must be won by Alfred Manase. I can only assume now that his election victory may have been fraudulent.

(Otherwise, there could be another story behind the slaying. Forgive me if I'm wrong for my assumptions!)

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[> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Chiko
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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2007, 02:30:49pm

KLagaipT3,

You're absolutely right, this is a work of Don Polye - a desperate pathetic individual hungry for power.
The deceased is my cousin brother and we already knew there was something of this sort looming and we were watching out for it. ALfred Manase and some of us who were against Don were already warned that anything of this nature would happen.
The latest news from home is that a blue 10 seater which Don bought and gave it to his cousin brother was used in the ambushed. The teachers were on their way to Lae for school holidays. The blue 10 seater followed them to Avi where Don is normally based (next to Avi market - on the left when you're going down to Lae way). They blocked the Kandep High School dyna truck and fired shots at the truck tyres and the truck came to a stop at the side of the road. Andy (deceased) came out of the cabin to check if somebody at the back was affected but he was stabbed with a sword like knife in the tummy.
Also they fired a pistol at another person who is called John Mission (Peter Mission's brother) and it got him on the leg. However, the tugs apparently left their 10 seater engine on while they zoomed in on Andy. Then John struggled and got into their 10 seater and took off to Hagen where he mobilised some others and they took some suspects to the cell. Don's cousin who owns the 10 seater was seen amoung those tugs.
They also raped and ambused the wives and girls. 3 other man are at large and missing. I will post more here as things come to me.
FYI, Andy was a key witness in the court of disputed returns against Don by ALfred Manase. Andy was Alfred's leading scrutineers at the counting at Wabag.
Andy Toap is from the Alitip tribe who live around the Kandep station and am sure they will not come to terms because Andy is their only highly educated man.
Don Polye will pay the price..these guys will not give it easy to Don...big trouble looming.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2007, 02:53:41pm

Chiko

I am deeply shocked by your revelation! I'm sure Polye is in boiling water now after this horrific incident. If Polye's criminal cousin and cronies are implicated in a court of law, Polye will have much to explain for. This could possibly tarnish his image and eventually contribute to his political downfall.

We await for further revelations from you..

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Chiko
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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2007, 03:20:00pm

FYI,

Don had started 4 tribal fights in Kandep in the last two years:

1. Between two clans in his tribe (Kambirips).
2. Between two clans in his tribe but who leave close to SHP.
3. A fight between ALfred Manase's tribe and a tribe which Don has ties with - Don hired high powered guns from Mendi and you may have seen on the papers - they finished last xmas.
4. A tribal fight Don instigated during the 2002 election and a couple of people died.

This fello is a pathetic and sick individual running around in Jackyl and Hyde shoes. Don is desperate to keep onto power by using a divide and rule tactic.
He will not escape from this.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
10
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Date Posted: Sun, Oct 07 2007, 03:20:03pm

Chiko is right.
Don Polye has no true fathers. His mother was not faithful to a husband so she was confused to let little Don know before she passed away. That is why he calls him self today as DON POMB POLYE which he owns 2 farthers, Pomb and polye to gain political powers. Most of all, he is a Hagen breed. He grew up there at Avi where the killing of the teacher ocured.
That's why he possesses the likely attitudes of the Kanges with jealousy, greed, selfishness and ended up in this killing.
Engans don't dot hat. He is not an Engan!...

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: You are not wrong there - 10


Author:
chicko
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Date Posted: Wed, Oct 10 2007, 10:55:14am

At least somebody else knows the truth of where this pathetic leader has originated.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: All Internet Statements are not True


Author:
Hagen Wanne (Unhappy)
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Date Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2007, 11:16:02pm

Hon Don Polye has done a lot for Kandep and Lunatic can not make such comment him by saying all sorts of things to demage his reputation.

You will never be like him in your life In terms of Politics You are small boy and you never be a mp in your life

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Address it to Chiko


Author:
Samba
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Date Posted: Thu, Nov 15 2007, 02:45:57am

You have to address it to Chiko my friend..

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[> Subject: More news


Author:
Chiko
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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 26 2007, 06:57:22pm

It's now revealed that Don Polye's cousin brother by the name of Sepet Yakapo and Don's step son from a Hagen lady were involved with ambush.

Will post more, keep watching if anybody is interested.

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[> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Nationalist (Genuine Engan)
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Date Posted: Mon, Oct 08 2007, 10:22:24pm

Chiko, firstly I sympathise with wife and daughter of late Andy Toap who had to watch their husband and father being stabbed to death like that. It is not a wish of anyone to die in that manner and I condemn it in its strongest term ever.
But I have a lot of question about you Chiko's never ending critism and personal attack on Honourable Don Polye at will on every occasions. How can you quickly jump to conclusion by implying the duely elected MP for a wrong which he was never involved and yet to be proven? Did you think he was stupid enough to order someone to shoot down people at his house front using his cars? He is a national leader and a potential PM of PNG. Your implication of the leader in this is very serious and totally unfair in this sensitive death case.
I remember you were the same guy critising Don both before and during election time and said he would be losing terribly but look you are a liar and you and your friends lost terribly instead.
Even if there is a by election ordered for tomorrow, he will be securing almost 100% of the voters now. Please Chiko and others let us not take personal grudges into someones death which is still sentive and under investigation. Show some respect please.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
chicko
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Date Posted: Tue, Oct 09 2007, 12:19:25pm

Nationalist,

FYI, I know Don Polye interestingly very well and what he is capable of, in fact Don is I am close cousin brother to me. The death of later Andy Toaps is directly related to political reasons where Andy was listed as a key witness at the election counting for the court of disputed returnes filed by ALfred Manase and other Kandep candidates.

Your lack of knowledge on what happened at Kandep during the elections and what led to this barbaric killing would make you wonder about the whole affair.

To tell you what has progressed so far, Don Polye has ordered this killing. The mastamind behind the killing was caught immedicately when he tried to board a flight to POM at Mt Hagen airport to inform Don Polye that he has completed the task he was assigned. His person plus 3 of Don Polye's cousin brothers were caught and are now awaiting charges at Mt Hagen Police station. Those buys were all seen at the scene. In fact they pursued the the High school truck all the way from Mt Hagen on three trucks, 2 x 10 seaters which were used for Don's campaign and 1 x open back landcruiser which was bought by Don and given to the Wage LLG council. This vehicles are now in police custody.
As I have mentioned before, Don has caused a lot of fights in Kandep (refer one of my postings above) and this death will not initiate a fight cause it will only boost Don's main agenda. Don's idea is to initiate a fight with Andy's clan who were behind Alfred Manase and his two cousin's clans (they all belong to one tribe called Alitip). The late Andy's people are now waiting for Don to come and explain why he ordered the killing because there were some agents in the meeting to organise this killing who leaked out the information.
FYI, this matter will not go down well, you'll see Don will pay the price.

On the other note for the elections, there wasn't any election in 90% of the Kandep rest houses. The people at the remote locations were waiting for two days for the elections but nobody turned up. Don's conspired with the District Returning Officer Mr Naipet and colluded with the polling officials and filled all the ballot papers in the night before the election day. When the election day came, they drove the filled ballot papers to their destinations but returned without reaching the respective rest houses and declared election was complete.
There was no police posted to those places and those who went were Don's man. The only elections conducted properly were at the Kandep station area where there was heavy police presence and thats where the other candidates at least got some votes.
The court of disputed returns is scheduled for today's (9th Oct) directional hearing and you will realised that the whole election for Kandep was flawed from the start. Lets keep an eye open for the news out from the cases.

If you want any further info, please let me know and I will try to publish some facts surrounding the reasons why I detest and question the credibility of your leader - Don Polye - he is not worthy of a leader, only time will tel.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Nationalist (Concerned Engan)
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Date Posted: Tue, Oct 09 2007, 10:08:42pm

Chiko'
When I do not want to further comment on this killing issue as it is disrespectful to a fellow mate, I disagree with most of your accusations and largely misleading points related to elections in Kandep both before and now.
Firstly, this election petition was not neccesary and has led to the death of one Kandepen elite already if what you claim to know above is true. Which means Alfred Manase is the cause of late Any's death.
Why I say this is because Don Polye is truely mandated by the overwhelming majority people of Kandep. They are very mature in politics who do the right thing. Just for the sake of your personal differences with Don you and I can not deny the overwhelming support he had all along from start to the finish of elections in Kandep.
For the benefit of others and I'm sure Chiko knows very well too himself is that, the main culprit is Lawyer Alfred Manase when he held up several ballot boxes containig thousand voters paper on the day of delivery to their different destinations by gun point at Tinjipaka. Mind you Alfred was there personally doing all these illegal things. They are 8 ballot boxes containing about 8,000 papers which were never allot to be counted and are still sitting in Wabag as hard material evidence. And an other candidate was involved in hijacking all the Wage boxes with the aid of Governor Ipatas vehicle. And Don never did anything like that. The people of Kandep mobolised to vote him in.
After having been rejected by their own people now we see court petitions. I think they should bow their heads in shame than taking up courts. When you do something that is not justified there is always side effects.This petition is not warranted as both the people of Kandep and more so the nature is the witness of who is right here. Over to you Chiko and the team.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
chicko
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Date Posted: Wed, Oct 10 2007, 10:51:48am

The court of disputed returns will spell out the outcomes of the elections so lets not dwell on that. The fact that Don Polye is a pathetic self proclaimed leader will tested in due course.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
someone
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Date Posted: Thu, Oct 11 2007, 10:06:09am

You saying that because of the petition, this person was killed? Why would someone be murdered over a petition?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Nationalist
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Date Posted: Wed, Oct 10 2007, 10:48:28pm

Chiko,
Do not bet your hope in the court of disputed return as it may never happen again. What then will you say next of Honourable Don Pomb Polye?
We know now that you have been misleading the intellectual community from Enga and around the world who use this forum by giving false information to assasinating the good leaders character and reputation. You and your hard core team have been constantly using the media too to say negative things about Don Polye but to no avail. You should now concede defeat and support him for the betterment of the people of Kandep, Enga and PNG as a whole.
Everyone, again Chiko is misleading this forum by saying the folowing that I correct,1/ Don never ever initiated any of the fights he mentions 2/ Don scored 85% when Alfred scored only 10% out of total 600 voters where late Andy Toap hailed from. That contradicts chiko's claim 3/ No election officials filled ballot boxes at night prior to the voting day but all took place in their respective places which will be proven in court 4/ Not everyone of the election officials were Don's supporter as claimed.

The TRUTH is that Don Polye is mandated by the people and not as what Chiko is portraying. And Chiko's team including the Enga Governor, Alfred Manase, Peter Mission and Kenneth Andrew pre planned to have the whole election in Kandep a failure but never succeeded. Their attempts at this failed terribly.
Chiko, remember that the truth will always prevail and not what you fabricate to steal.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
10
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Date Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2007, 07:42:47am

Nationalist,
The truth will prevail only in your dreams. It seems that you are not speaking for the public. Where were you! Moresby? Good, ensure Don's car, house and the back yard is Kept clean!
Kandepians including myself who were in Kandep expecting to cast the votes have actulay seen what had happened. Don winning a landslide vitory was not heard over the phones. We have seen it happening and indeed, it overjoyed his supporters and upsetted the rest. The truth about what had happened is not not a hidden message Nationalist is trying to proclaim. Nationalist to me, you are a Kandpepian but I told you earlier, Don is a Timbai and you know their attitudes. Jealousy, selfishnes and greed. It's all theirs!
To the public, Don is the prime suspect to the killing of the Kandep Teacher. Anybody who is very interested in this issue should go up there and prove it. Do not believe in Nationalist.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Hulpu Munupuhae
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Date Posted: Thu, Nov 15 2007, 11:14:03am

You buch of faceless lunatics should put your names down and take ownership of your comments, otherwise shut the fuck up. You will never be like Alfred, Peter or Kenneth, these guys have seen life legitimately, not be hijacking the process like criminals and the incumbent is one. Just wait for the Court to complete the findings, what do you know about law and justice. I hope I am taking to nobody because you all are faceless and your comments make me sick.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Hulpu Munupuhae
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Date Posted: Thu, Nov 15 2007, 11:15:53am

You bunch of faceless lunatics should put your names down and take ownership of your comments, otherwise shut the fuck up! You will never be like Alfred, Peter or Kenneth, these guys have seen life legitimately, not by hijacking the process like criminals such as the incumbent. Just wait for the Court to complete the findings, what do you know about law and justice. I hope I am taking to nobody because you all are faceless and your comments make me sick.

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[> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed - Conclude this, Kaimis


Author:
Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Wed, Oct 10 2007, 09:06:08am

I condone the wilful killing of late Andy Toaps and have great pity for his family. This is tribalism at its worse.

Kaimis, Chiko and Concerned Engan; it is quite interesting to learn of this inside stories but I'm not surprise. It is my prayer that Enga still has the best leaders, but sorry to say that the people of Enga have already been drowned in the mud of bribery and tribalism. These days, you got to be another late Malipu Balakau to have the humour to drive sense into the dozing minds of the people from a political platform in Enga. Otherwise, the genuine and the claimed leaders will still have to use force for the wellbeing of the people or for the selfishness of a claimed leader.
Therefore, to dwell on another individual's past wrong doing is to betray your own future. Lets learn from the past to build our future.

'THE TEST OF PATIENCY IS TO BE PATIENT'

PEACE KAIMIs.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed - Conclude this, Kaimis


Author:
chicko
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Date Posted: Wed, Oct 10 2007, 10:57:02am

Engan Lenge,

Thanks for your wisdom.....at least a fello engan can see some light in the tunnel.

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[> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Kandep Tenge
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Date Posted: Sat, Oct 13 2007, 03:19:34pm

Chiko,
I advise you to bury the hatchet with Minister Don Polye and accept him as your leader. It is better to forgive and forget of your past to work towards betterment of tomorrow for everyone of us than your selfish motive.

I would also want Alfred Manase, Peter Mission, Kenneth Andrew, James Tumbin and the rest of you arch rivals of Don to reconsider your stand for the benefit of the people of Kandep and not your own. Unless you have a very good reason that the people of Kandep can clearly see and judge to support you.

Remember, only the vast majority people of Kandep know when to replace Don by someone of suprior quality and not as you and the minority wish.

It is like you crying in the wilderness for help without anyone taking heed of you.

If you are really serious of becoming a leader of the people, you better be changing your characters and leadship skills so not to become outcast and be rejected by your own people like all of the above mentioned candidates in the recent election.

Otherwise your personal jealousy and envy for someone's leadership and achievement will lead to self destruction and condemnation.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
chicko
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Date Posted: Mon, Oct 15 2007, 10:41:53am

Kandep Tenge,

My instinct tells me not to accept a pathetic lunatic like Don Polye to be my leader. As you consider Don Polye as your role model, I can only conclude you’re a pathetic to the lowest degree then your role model Don Polye.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
Kandep Tenge
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Date Posted: Mon, Oct 15 2007, 06:39:22pm

Chiko,
I can conclude you have a personal problem with Minister Don which can not be everyone's problem.

If you are not prepared to forgive and forget you can live with it for the rest of your life as long as Don rules and reigns over you.

Don Polye is of course a role model now. And you might never be like Don in your life so let it haunt you.

People of this forum, please disregard Chiko's earlier outburst on Polye and his numerous accusations against the MP as he has been caught misleading this forum.

Looks like Chiko is hell bent.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
chicko
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Date Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2007, 10:23:43am

Kandep Tenge,

FYI, it's a basic human right to choose and align oneself with an appropriate person who may be regarded as a role model, to me Don Polye is not my role model, he is a pathetic lunatic who is your calibre so you can salute him, never will me.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Kandepen killed


Author:
ultange
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Date Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2007, 02:27:04pm

Chicko,
The death of Mr. Andy Toap is a blow to the elite community of Kandep.
But You have been running this commentry on Mr. Polye when he is not there in person to defend himself.
Engans who use this forum are not stupid, and other people have commented. Mr. Polye has condemned the killings in the media.
Can I also say that stupids and thugs will continue to committ crimes like that. We as educated elites should condemn them and work together in a cooperative manner instead of taking sides with our tribesman.

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