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Subject: Re: Lagaip Porgera Open 2007 GE


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WARNING (Angry)
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Date Posted: Tue, Jul 03 2007, 10:23:55am

I think the people of Lagaip Porgera need to be careful when voting for 6.Anton Aiyala Pakena.
As our company had the misfortune on dealing with Mr. Pakena whom he states he is the chairman of PIALA HEWA GOLD RESOURCES Ltd. He has attempted to sell 10,000Mtons of Gold which he does not have. He has failed to provide original documents where he has defrauded the Bank of South Pacific in using fraudulent documents in the Banks letter head and having stamped and signed the letter.
This information has come to the attention of the Bank Manager of Bank of South Pacific. Now with Fraud squad in PNG.
Mr Anton Pakena has taken some thousands of dollars from Australian Business people attempting to sell assets he did not have, then attempted to continue lies to take 200billion from a U.S. company.
He is a lier and should not be trusted in any business or government dealings.

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[> Subject: Re: Lagaip Porgera Open 2007 GE


Author:
Cool_Guy1
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Date Posted: Tue, Jul 03 2007, 02:09:29pm

I hope he is not one of them the Central Bank has refered to in today's (3rd/07/07) newspaper advertisement about intending candidates claiming to have billions of dollars held back by the Central Bank.

It is becoming a common norm in Papua New Guinea, where someone claims to have billions or millions of USD or gold bullions in overseas banks. They can produce fake certificates and documents that shows they have the evidence to prove that. I have been approached by several would be investors in such shemes.

Not only is Anthon Pakena is fooling small people but, there is a big number of people, even well educated ones, who have this idea that, someone would just release a billion USD to them. It is quiet absurd, and does not make any financial sense.

If what you said is true, where did Anton Pakena grab hold of this gold bullions? is it from the porgera mine? absolutely not. Almost all of porgera's gold production and exports are common knowledge, except for gold dust. Maybe Anton Pakena has locked up several bottles of gold dust and he is think he has gold bullions. Very funny how desperate some people can get to suck out money from innocent people who dont know what is happening.

My advise to all those read this thread. DONT INVEST OR GIVE YOUR MONEY AWAY TO SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS HE HAS LARGE SUMS OF MONEY IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY OR GOLD BULLIONS WITH THE BANK OF PNG OR FOREIGN BANKS. THEY ARE ABSOLUTE CRAPS... If you have watched the 60 minutes program on SUnday, you will understand what i am saying. Nigerian Con schemes have mushroomed everywhere. It is no surprise, PNG has its own fair share with the likes of U-Vistract,,, etc.. Be aware of new con-man with new tactics who will appraoche you anytime and ask you for some bucks to get this huge money overseas..

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[> Subject: Re: Lagaip Porgera Open 2007 GE


Author:
pngean
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Date Posted: Tue, Jul 03 2007, 06:18:32pm

Like they say - "There is no such thing as a free lunch". If it sounds too good to be true, then that's just what it is - a SCAM!

I have read and know of people being scammed of their hard earned cash. I once came across a nursing office from Enga telling drs and nurses at PMGH that there was a large amount of gold ready to be airlifted out of Pogera but the owner wanted "investors" to help hire the chopper. These "investors" were promised 100-200% returns! I knew this was a scam of some sort but was more surprised and even shocked to learn that some drs and nurses did gave their money to her.

Did these people ever get any returns? NIL. The last I heard, the investors were looking for the particular nurse who disappeared!

Everytime I read or hear such scams, I just wonder, WHO IS THE BIGGER FOOL?

These scams are mordern day cargo cult. People must by know learn that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MONEY FOR NOTHING. You sweat, you have food. No sweat, no gain.

Are these kind of scams flourishing in PNG because we have beome lazy and seeking the easy way out in our efforts to reach the level of civilization and life style achived by western countries through years of hard work and even wars?

I feel sorry for the poor villagers. Their little understanding of mordern financial transactions also makes them a prey to scammers such as this candidate. Such people do not even deserve to be even circulating in the community.

Just remember - there is no such thing as a free lunch!

peace

pngean

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[> Subject: Message from Porgera Mine Site


Author:
Ulutainge
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Date Posted: Thu, Jul 05 2007, 09:12:18pm

Fellow Engans

Governor Peter Ipatas and his "Plastic Party" is being destroyed at this very moment. It seems Polye's policy of counting in various venues outside of Wabag as been put into effect.

Lagaip/Porgera and Kandep votes are being counted at the Porgera mine site at this very instant. Ambum/Kompiam and Wapenamanda votes are being counted in Wapenamanda while Wabag votes at the Wabag Top-Up School.

At this very moment, NA Candidate for Lagaip/Porgera Open Philip Kapus Kikala is leading by a couple of thousands.

-Message from Porgera Mine Site

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Author:
Fr. Robert (Thanks for the news)
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 12:41:23am

Ulutainge,

thanks for the note. I hope to hear more from home, Enga and I pray it will be a peaceful election. So much had been mentioned in the media but they are rather general. Anyone from Enga, could you be kind enough to give us the updates of what is happening in Enga. It will be an honor for you to let us, your fellow Engans know.

Again thanks for your precious time to let us know what is happening there.

Yakapen lelyo.

Fr. Robert, SVD

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Author:
Ulutange Mende
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 11:23:47am

Mr. Ulutainge,
What I read on the Papers contradicts your message that counting already begun at Porgera Mine Site for Lagaip Porgera and Kandep Electorates. On the Papers all votes are going to be counted at Wabag once voting is completed all thoughout the province.

Kindly Mr. Ulutainge or anyone shed light on this please.

Thanks,

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Author:
Ulutainge
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 11:35:44am

Ulutainge Mende

What you read in the papers is untrue and maybe outdated because the NEC/Cabinet had made and gazetted a decision to have counting in Enga deployed to 3 different venues.

Currently, votes for Lagaip/Porgera and Kandep are being counted at the Porgera Mine Site at this very instant. Call home if you want to find out more for Wabag or any other electorate besides the two just mentioned.

Cheers!

Ulutainge
-Porgera Mine Site

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Author:
Kambi
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 04:04:09pm

Ulutainge

I don't believe you when you say counting is happening in Porgera. I just read in the papers that the Electoral commissioner has decided that counting will be done in Wabag. It just suprises me when you say Philip Kiakala is leading by a couple of thousand votes, when did counting start at Porgera? I didn't even see anything like that in the dailies.

I am hoping you're not bluffing as I wish they did count the votes at Porgera.

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Author:
Sambe Kunalin - Kaina (Anything is possible.)
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 04:32:09pm

Ulutage,

Can you please provide the latest tally sheet from the counting at the mine site if this is true?

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Author:
Ultange is a stupid
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Date Posted: Tue, Aug 14 2007, 05:43:17pm

ulutage at mine site must be a primitive
who bribed the selection panel with a pig and misleading the elites of enga.
next time such stupids like ulutages must not write
because there is a computer infront of you.

engan elites

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[> Subject: Latest Update!!


Author:
Ulutainge
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 04:55:21pm

Fellow Engans

I was mistaken because the ballot boxes from Laiagam were being kept here at the mine site for 2 to 3 days. Rumours have it that they will be moved to Wabag Mommers Oval where the counting will actually take place.

Upon a sneak preview of the votes in the ballot boxes coming in, it was rumoured by counting officials that Philip Kapus Kikala seemed hot favorite throughout Lagaip/Porgera with Paul P. Torato for Enga Regional.

The counting might start this afternoon or evening. Will keep you in informed after listening to Enga radio.

Ulutainge
-Porgera Mine Site

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[> [> Subject: Re: Latest Update!!


Author:
Chiko
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 05:10:35pm

The counting for Enga will start on Monday and will be at Wabag. All boxes from all the districts have been transported to Wabag except for some isolated Kompiam areas are still going to the polls today.
All counting will be in Wabag....

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[> [> Subject: Re: Latest Update!!


Author:
Sambe Kunalin - Kaina
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 08:39:45pm

Ulutange,

How comes you claim to be in Porgera and do not know that Paiela and Liam in Lagaip Porgera electorate are yet to poll? It's still early days so do not wish for PKK to win. Up L/Headwaters way It was Jeff Sailas who collected most votes followed by G.Waip and Ezekiel Peter. Karpa still collected votes here and there so the challenge really seems to be beating Karpa.

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Author:
Fr. Robert
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 08:45:22pm

Can we guys out there put something reliable on this forum based on what you have seen and assessed, PLEASE. We don't have to hear from others and put them down on paper as if they are coming from our source, coze these cannot be reliable at times. I believe most of our learned and good Engans wouldn't mind giving us details of the counting in Enga. I bid you heartfelt thanks.

At times I am lost, coze some say counting had started, others said it will be on Monday and people like myself, I am in blue waters. I do wish to hear news, reliable news from HOME, ENGA. I know I can have access to The National and Post Courier online, but this can also be second rated stories. I wish to hear something tangible and reliable from my own Engans home.

Iyakai kaimi ere, andaka pir mende kandarala loo peyalapapoko.

Mambu andaike lelyo.
Fr. Robert

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Latest Update!!


Author:
KLagaipT3
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 08:57:00pm

Friends and Engans on this forum; I just called my father (Philip Kikala) in Wabag (Enga) and he has confirmed with me that the counting was brought to Wabag and NOT to Porgera or various counting venues as implied by Ulutainge.

I agree with Chiko that counting may begin in Wabag on Monday. As to who the winner will be, it's anybody's guess at this point.

Keep a watch out on www.pngec.gov.pg

Peace..

Stephen Kikala
Tokyo, Japan

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Latest Update!!


Author:
Kami Mende
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Date Posted: Fri, Jul 06 2007, 11:39:31pm

KLagaipT3,
Its sad that some of our countryman/women are misleading us and thanks for confirming that counting will take place in Wabag.
Aukapae Andake

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Author:
mervin
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Date Posted: Sun, Jul 08 2007, 04:30:12am

ULUTANGE,

YOU ARE STILL OUR EYE AND HEAR. AND YOU KNOW THAT MIPLA DAI STRET LO HAREM NEWS LO PLES. SO PLIS LAREM OL NEWS NA RUMOURS ROLL KAM INSAIT.

WANBEL EM STAP

KAIM

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Author:
TP
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Date Posted: Sun, Jul 08 2007, 04:25:10am

STEVE,


THANKS FOR THAT. IF YOU HAVE NEW INFOR COMING IN PLS KEEP ME UPDATED TOO.

TPASET
HIROSHIMA

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[> Subject: Re: Lagaip Porgera Open 2007 GE


Author:
anon
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Date Posted: Sun, Jul 08 2007, 08:06:02pm

Latest update:

Governor Peter Ipatas yet i winim pinis seat blo em!

anon

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[> [> Subject: Re: Lagaip Porgera Open 2007 GE


Author:
anon2
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Date Posted: Sun, Jul 08 2007, 08:24:39pm

Sore sisuru! Faul Faken autim yu finis!!

Mbye mbye

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Lagaip Porgera Open 2007 GE


Author:
Ipatas nanen pelyam!
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Date Posted: Mon, Jul 09 2007, 11:43:35am

The National, Monday, July 9 (2007)

Ipatas: I might not get a vote
TENGA Governor Peter Ipatas has expressed the possibility that he may not have picked up any votes in Kandep polling, which has been denounced by candidates as being rigged.
Mr Ipatas was upset over reports of widespread election irregularities in the electorate.
On Friday, flanked by candidates for the Kandep Open electorate, Mr Ipatas said an immediate probe was required to establish the truth and to take the right course of action.
Mr Ipatas said because of widespread anomalies in Kandep polling, the Electoral Commission must to declare the election as having “failed”.
“They do not need to go far. I am picking up votes all over the electorate in Enga. If I do not have any votes in the ballot boxes from Kandep, there is something definitely wrong.
“It is no secret here (Enga) that NA (National Alliance) is working around the clock to get rid of me,” Mr Ipatas said.
He said what happened in Kandep was very dangerous for the future and if the Electoral Commission accepted the results, it would be setting a very bad precedent.
Mr Ipatas said the polling in Kandep was not the only one where a senior leader in the country was accused of using illegal means to secure his seat.
Mr Ipatas said there were reports that known leaders in Kompiam and Wapenamanda were doing the same to secure votes and win.

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[> Subject: Re: Lagaip Porgera Open 2007 GE


Author:
Engan Lenge
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Date Posted: Sun, Jul 08 2007, 11:43:53pm

The link below may help.
http://www.pngec.gov.pg/resultsNat2007/SummaryResults.htm

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