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Subject: Re: TORATO for Enga Governor!!!

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Date Posted: Tue, Jun 19 2007, 09:10:31am
In reply to: Miok Rutz 's message, "TORATO for Enga Governor!!!" on Sat, Jun 16 2007, 06:02:16am

You thoughless, it suppose to be ONE ENGA, not west enga. Where was your Torato in the past? What has he achieved? Enga has enough leaders, go na hait. Don't make me laugh.

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[> [> [> Subject: Who is Torato?????

Yandapon- Lagaip Mage
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Date Posted: Thu, Jun 21 2007, 04:05:08pm

This expired man by the name of Paul Pakenege Torato has done nothing for Enga in his 10 years in parliament. he can give us a sweet excuse by saying that in his time he budgeted only a K50,000 or K 100 000 but from my obervations...that money was too big in those days.
a single K2. was just enough for a family's meals in torato's time.
He has done nothing but stole those money and bought properties everywhere in Port Moresby. HE bought off the Togoba Hill in Port Moresby. He even bougght a Hanuabada angel that time and some white womens too which all left him. Ipatas is also a thief and a womeniser just like torato but ..em ol ples klia ya...yu will definetly know which women ipatas is fucking and how much he is stealing from EPG but this old man is a secret and silent bomber.
I'm writting from a very frustrating point because he did not even bulid one classrom at Yangil communityy scohool, kepelam commuinty schooll, mapumanda or papayuku where he belongs to. he cheated my people for his gain.
Ipatas is atleast giving us something back.
...this time Paul Pakenege will not trick us. our eagles eyes have been opened already. Ipatas will score 50 times more than PAul and anyother candidates in West Enga

hard core- west engan

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Who is Torato?????

Lagaip Mage (Sambe Wane)
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Date Posted: Mon, Jun 25 2007, 08:12:24pm

I have a lot of doubts on your ecomonics knowledge to say during Torato's time K100,000 was a huge amount. What exchange rate are you using to convert K100,000.00 into K60 million kina that Ipatas budgets. Get your facts right, I think Torato did more for the people of Enga then that which your tribesman Ipatas has done for the people of Enga. I believe with the kind of money now Torato can turn Enga into a triving in the country. The Sambe tribes are united in this cause.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: TORATO for Enga Governor!!!

Liane Onotena
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Date Posted: Sun, Jun 24 2007, 12:34:45am

During the times of Torato's reign, our road systems around the province were by far the best compared to many Highlands provinces that I traveled to. I took it for granted when a PWD then came around Murip every 3 to 4 months grading the road and a rooler followed. The Kandep road was like a sealed road from the summit of the Liane Range. I now realise it was the provincial leadership that made this possible. I now look at our roads and lament, those were the days. I even know we had better services and had public servants who had very little political connections. Things have gone very bad in the province, when everyone wants to gain from Enga's big purse now. We need someone like Torato who knew the people's problems to be back. We need a leader that will give services to everyone without fear or favour, not to dish out cash to a few supporters at the expense of the Enga people. The people of Kandep are sending Torato to Parliment for the Enga governor's post.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: TORATO for Enga Governor!!!

Sikita Tomape
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Date Posted: Mon, Jun 25 2007, 12:24:46pm

I write here again to diffuse this concept of West-Enga. I am of Laiagam origin (Lagaip headwaters, Apulin tribe) but I do not subscribe to this concept chiefly because it propagates a micronationalist political agenda. Kandep, Laiagam, Porgera, Sirunki, parts of Malamun and any other place situated to the West of Enga, I reckon are an integral part of Enga. One of the key reasons as I understand which prompted the evolution of this concept was the apparent lack of government servcies in these areas. The way forward is to establsih effective LLGs that are fully resoureced to address the issues and needs of our people. This means, applying pressure on the provincial and national governments to expend resoruces on projects identified by the respective LLGs. However, current political events show that ward councillors have minimal input in the allocation of resources, leaving them at the mercy of the Governor and Council presidents. This is an area that needs to be rectified not only in Enga but elsewhere in the country. The gist of my argument here is that precious time is being wasted on talking about a 'separatist' movement that will never materialise. Rather, time and effort should be expended on developing a poltical framework that will allow the flow of resoruces to LLGs, who will in trun attend to their specific needs and issues of their constituents.

Any aspriring Engan post-graudate student in the area of political science and public policy should explore this policy area (decentralisation and development).

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