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Subject: Jesus Christ


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Nikki
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Date Posted: 16:04:28 12/10/02 Tue
In reply to: Becky 's message, "JESUS - Opinion Is" on 20:45:42 12/09/02 Mon

I noticed that you have used most of your quotes marked in blue from the gospels which seem to be the ones bothering you most, so we will confine our thoughts to these.

When we come to study the gospels we must understand the reason for four gospels.

Some would contend that one gospel should have been enough because they are all saying much the same thing and everything could have been fitted into one gospel.

So why four gospels?

God in His wisdom inspired four gospels for a very good reason.

They present Jesus in four different ways
Mathew presents Christ as king
Mark as servant
Luke as the Son of man
John as the Son of God

Jesus had two natures He was God and man (1 Tim 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh,) When He spoke sometimes He spoke as man other times He spoke as God

In John 14:9 He said he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;

John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.

45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.
Here in these three verses He is speaking as God.

In John 14:28 He said my Father is greater than I, which is one of your quotes.

Here He is speaking as man.

In John 20:17 which is also one of your quotes He said. I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Here again He is speaking as man.

John 17:3 is another place where He is speaking as man. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
In this verse He is saying He and the Father are equal. The Jews did not believe this and took up stones to stone Him. They accused Him of blasphemy because he called himself God

In Matthew 19 v17 the rich ruler called Jesus good Master, he saw Him as only a teacher. Jesus knew his heart and said to him Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: What He was saying was you see me as a good man and not as God.

Jesus nevertheless answered His question and told him to do something he was unwilling to do which caused him to go away sorrowful:

Sadly it is the same today nothing has changed people see Jesus only as a man and when He speaks to them they are unwilling to submit to his authority and go away sorrowful. If they do not repent and come to Him who is God and who alone can cleanse their sin they will remain sorrowful forever in hell. Christ can do nothing for such people who will not submit to his authority. This young man had a question we all have questions, before I received assurance of salvation I had many questions regarding salvation.
When I came to the Bible to find answers with a mind that whatever Gods word said I would submit to it I found the answer very quickly God opened my understanding and I saw things I never saw before

This is a very important question Matt 22:42 What think ye of Christ? Whose son is he?

I hope this will help you to understand that Jesus Christ is God and to trust Him with all your heart for salvation.

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Re: Jesus ChristBecky11:09:47 12/11/02 Wed
Re: Jesus Christcovakid06:28:33 02/20/04 Fri


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