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Subject: Sandpoint well


Author:
scott
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Date Posted: 12:51:23 09/17/09 Thu
(ip-209-242-228-30.netwurx.net/209.242.228.30)
Hey to all, just ran across this site and thought i would weigh in with my problem. I have a few acres in Northern
Wisconsin with a camper on it. I have been hauling jugs of water for the past 4 years and would like to put a well in. My neighbors have put their own sand points in but I was wondering if there is a better way than the long hours they talk about to hand pound one in. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks to all!

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Subject: How big does the Sandpoint need to be for sprinkler


Author:
Jeannie S (HELP)
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Date Posted: 07:59:30 06/02/09 Tue
(NoHost/198.204.44.3)
I need help, I'm getting conflicting stories from Fleet Farm. I just put in a sandpoint 18 feet deep, I have 5 feet of water in the pipe. I used a 1 1/4" stainless sandpoint that Fleet Farm sells per instructions by one of the Fleet guys. Now I went to get a pump and another Fleet guy tells me I can't use that sandpoint to pump a sprinkler system of 40 heads and 8 zones. He said it is too small and I won't get enough water through that. It only pumps 7 1/2 gallons per minute and I can't use anything bigger than a 1/2 hp pump for that size pipe because it will suck it dry. Does anyone know, do I need to get a bigger pipe? The Fleet guy says they don't sell what I need and I need to go to an irrigation company and get a bigger Sandpoint pipe.

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Subject: Getting a PVC point down


Author:
Toad
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Date Posted: 10:20:05 06/19/08 Thu
(cpe-74-77-120-223.buffalo.res.rr.com/74.77.120.223)
Had to abandon a driven well with leaky joint(s) that was used for lawn and garden. The point broke off when I pulled the pipe, and is in the ground outside my house.

I want to make a new well, either outside or preferably in my basement, using 1.25" PVC. Steel is not an option as I want to guarantee no leaks. Brady method will not work because the soil is too hard. My plan is to drive a dummy point made from scrap galvanized, or else auger down, to the water bearing sand 12 feet from ground level or 6 feet below basement floor. Then pull the steel pipe out, shove the PVC point down the hole to the sand, and then flush it down the last 8 feet to the 20 foot level necessary.

I suspect that if this is at all possible, the mess would make the basement option impractical. Any advice is appreciated.

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Subject: Dry hole or not enough perferation


Author:
Fred H. Lott (Disappointed)
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Date Posted: 14:46:35 01/18/09 Sun
(NoHost/64.130.90.138)
I had a water well drilled in Portales valley. Depth 79 feet water at 49 ft. So had 30 foot of water. So, had 1 and 1/2 horse pump put in to really do some watering. The pump had an inch and quarter nipple and started the pump. It ran good for about 30 seconds and put out air.

This was in 4 inch casing (probably too small). Unfortunately I am having trouble with my back and did not get to see the perforations. The pump guy made the comment that maybe the perforations too small.

So, I have a 3/4 water hose performance well.

Is here any test that can be done to determine if dry hole or not enough perferations .ie pressure test etc

Thanks FRed

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Subject: BROKEN 1.50 INCH PVC PIPE IN WELL SLEEVE


Author:
MARK R. KEIRN
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Date Posted: 17:41:20 06/20/08 Fri
(ACA38457.ipt.aol.com/172.163.132.87)
i have 1.50 inch pvc pipe broken off in the 2"/80' sleeved well. we were able to drive a double sided brass fitting into
the broken pipe but when we attempt to drive the fitting into
the pipe in the well, the pvc has so much spring that it won't
seat. any ideas would be greatly appreciated the well has a
good column of water but we are having trouble getting it to
pump with pipe in the well. thanks markeirn

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Subject: My well is tired ?


Author:
HL Shoning
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Date Posted: 20:21:30 06/19/08 Thu
(fl-74-4-74-244.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/74.4.74.244)
I have a well 30'deep it has water but runs out shortly. I installed PVC inside the 2" galvenized pipe think I could be pumping air. That didn't work I still run out of water. It acts like the water doesn't flow into the pump fast enough. This well is 35 years old. It's clear to the bottom. When I drop a 3/4 " PVC pipe down it shows several feet of water in it. Is there any thing I can do with this well? should I just dril a new one:?

HL Shoning
Punta Gorda, Florida

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Subject: Checking out an old well


Author:
Myron Hankel (Help)
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Date Posted: 15:49:23 06/13/08 Fri
(ccn220.casselton.net/63.165.140.220)
I recently purchased some property that has a well on it that hasn't been used for at least 40 years. I need a functioning well for livestock watering. There is an old well pump standing on top of the well casing. The pump appears to be one which may have been attached to a windmill. I know nothing about wells but I would like to determine for myself whether this well would be able to be renovated. How would I go about evaluating this well? Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Myron

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Subject: Booster pump


Author:
RJ
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Date Posted: 11:39:36 06/13/08 Fri
(ppp23.dc1.56k.execulink.com/66.203.184.23)
Hello,

I need to run a sprinkler head about 200' from my house. My 3/4 hp jet pump on a shallow well has grief pumping that far with any pressure so I was thinking of adding a booster pump in the mix.
I have a 2hp pump laying around and wondered if I could use it or would this be too much pump and cause problems with the 3/4 hp pump in the basement?
My line is 1/2" and the sprinkler head takes 3 gpm.

Thank You

Randy

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Subject: How or what to use to get water out of a 2" deep well


Author:
Steve
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Date Posted: 09:51:41 06/10/08 Tue
(adsl-146-147-149.clt.bellsouth.net/72.146.147.149)
I have a 2" deep well that a core drilling company left me beside my house so I could use as a small water well. It is 180 feet deep and water is 50 feet below the surface (130 ft water). I have already installed the PVC pipe all the way down to the rock or granite with the screen so water volume is no issue. All is ready to pump water but the problem is how or what can I use in a 2" pipe to get the water out being it is a deep well? A 2" submersible pump is out of the question as they don't seem to exist. I have 2, 50 watt solar panels so any 12 volt suggestions is welcome for 12 volt battery hookup as well as any 120V. High water pressure or a pressure tank is not an issue as I would just like to use it to fill up some water tanks. I know how regular 4"-8" wells work but the problem is finding small enough parts for this 2" well. I am good at inventing, so let me know if there is something I can make that might work! Thanks for your time.

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Subject: Poor recovery through casing slots


Author:
L. Bird
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Date Posted: 18:51:45 06/06/08 Fri
(pool-71-244-56-125.dllstx.fios.verizon.net/71.244.56.125)
I have a problem with the pump out performing the recovery of the water coming back through the slots in the PVC casing. The well is about 12 years old, 50 feet deep with a 1 hp jet pump. The casing is 4-inch PVC, the slots are cut in the last 20 ft of the casing. The problem started last year. This year hired a local pump guy to treat it with "approved chemicals". The treatment helped very little. I have use wire brushes to clean the interior of the casing, that also had very little effect on the recovery rate of the water. The water table is 22 ft below the surface, it has been the same of years. We have red sandstone in this area. The material that I got back with the wire brushes was red/rust color.

How can I clean out the slots or maybe cut new slots in the PVC casing ?

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Subject: sandpoint well


Author:
Brian
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Date Posted: 09:05:49 05/18/08 Sun
(bas6-toronto12-1088883321.dsl.bell.ca/64.231.10.121)
Is it possible to go too deep on a sandpoint well? I've gone much deeper than any of my neighbors and still no water. Could something be blocking it? Any sugestions would be helpful!

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Subject: 17th century stone well


Author:
Steve Mitchell (Smiler)
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Date Posted: 17:14:33 05/28/08 Wed
(NoHost/193.120.116.178)
I recently unearthed(whilst excavating a field)a 17 th c stone(5ft across)well around 25ft deep,We believe unused for 10-15yrs,It had a hand pump and a 22ft length of scaffold pipe fitted!!,I drained it with a submersible pump and well refilled to similar level in 5 days,How would I clean/sanitize stone side construction?"Old timers" here in Ireland said drain 3/4 times and dash walls with lime?Then let well refill,Please advise me of best methods(walls are of dry stone construction)Any advise appreciated,Steve.

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Subject: there one minute and gone the next


Author:
sherry
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Date Posted: 21:30:28 05/27/08 Tue
(dpc691914030.direcpc.com/69.19.14.30)
we have a 375' deep well and recently we had to replace our submersible pump because it wasn't big enough to pump that far. we pulled the pump and i took it to a well supply store and they put a bigger pump on our motor. when we pulled the pump the line was wet for about 100'. ok it took me most of the day to drive to the store and get it fixed and when i returned and replace the pump and dropped it back in the well i had no water coming to the house and u could hear the pump and it wasn't covered with water. so we pulled it back out and the line was dry. my question is does the casing have to be covered in order for the well to store the water because we decided to drop it back in there and hours later we had water again?

i was thinking that without the cap being on the casing it aloud the water to flow instead of store. it would be appreciated if someone could tell me how we lost our 100' of storage in a matter of hours and explain to me just exactly how water is stored in a deep well

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Subject: New artesian well on ajacant property


Author:
Vicki (concerned)
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Date Posted: 09:59:30 05/28/08 Wed
(NoHost/96.245.69.39)
The property next to us is being developed with 68 new homes to share an artesian well/ water tower. We are down grade about 500 feet from new construction. Well water is spotty and scarce in our area. We are on our third well, 480 feet deep, a neighbor is on his eight well, everyone in our area has gone dry. Our concern is the new well for the development will affect our water. Do I have a valad concern?

Thank You,
New Castle County Delaware

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Subject: Shallow Well


Author:
Davod
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Date Posted: 15:14:23 05/26/08 Mon
(c-66-31-183-179.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/66.31.183.179)
Have a shallow well for irrigation purposes only. The pump is not able to get up enough pressure to shut-it self off at 60 psi, but runs at about 25-40 psi when the sprinker's are on. I end up having to just pull the plug and it will maintain a pressure of 50 psi. The pump has worked fine in past years but this year just cannot seem to build up enough pressure. I have a craftsman 1 3/4 hp that is 3-4 years old. Any thoughts? Thanks to all on the board.

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Subject: cleaning a well


Author:
john
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Date Posted: 07:56:26 05/28/08 Wed
(global66-252.pix.hs.uab.edu/164.111.66.252)
I live in alabama and I have a well that my dad tried to have sank. I want to have the pieces of concrete curbing pulled out of the well and maybe have the water pumped out and start over with fresh water....does anyone have any suggestions????

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Subject: Retrieving Well piping


Author:
Denver Corley ((YES, I do feel like a dummy))
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Date Posted: 10:18:31 05/27/08 Tue
(sidewinder5.its.unc.edu/152.2.21.123)
Hillsborough NC - We dropped the water lines into the well when we were trying to pull them out. It's all my son-in-law's fault.

While trying to pull the priming and supply line out of the well (8" casing, 56 ft total depth, 36 ft to foot valve according to a local well service company), the piping got away from us. There are now 3 humbled men standing around saying "I thought you were holding it!"

Anyway, the piping is now about 10 feet down from the top of the well. And yes, I am concerned that the foot valve has caught on something at least 10 feet from the bottom and my efforts may well cause it to fall another 10 feet or more.

Something was catching as we tried to pull the lines out so we stopped to regroup, the foot valve caught on something else then fell.

Are there any suggestions for methods and tools to use to grab these lines (1-1/4" supply and 1" priming). And, when I do get ahold of them, do we just keep pulling or should we be concerned about the lines catching on something.

And "Yes, we do feel stupid"!

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Subject: finding supply of water in sandy soil


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 18:40:21 05/17/08 Sat
(bas6-toronto12-1088707045.dsl.bell.ca/64.228.89.229)
I live on the beachfront and attempting to put a new sandpoint in. So far I've gone to a depth of 45 ft. with a 2 inch PVC casing washing it down. I have stopped at various layers(clay, gravel, course sand and silt) and have not been able to obtain enough water. I'm well below the water level of Georgian Bay. Any suggestions?

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Subject: Foot valve broken


Author:
Jennifer
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Date Posted: 18:47:42 05/17/08 Sat
(20.196.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com/68.205.196.20)
I bought some property in Manning, SC. The realtor said it had an old but working well. So we called a well person over to see about getting it hooked up, and he looked inside the well and said that the pipe inside of the well was broken off and he cant get it out and I need a new well because of this. I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to get it out and how? My guess is that some how it was broken off and fell inside. I just think they say they cant fix it cause they want to make more money on a new well. Thanks for any help..

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Subject: sandpoint well


Author:
wendy
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Date Posted: 14:34:31 05/16/08 Fri
(ip37.npnl149.bevcomm.net/76.164.149.37)
looking to put in sandpoint well, what to use to pound it in? also how do i find water table in mn.

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Subject: auxiliary well line?


Author:
G Purdum
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Date Posted: 11:42:18 05/16/08 Fri
(NoHost/76.221.245.85)
My neighbor has a regular drilled well for household potable water, 4" casing, down about 120', run by a well pump in the basement. Water table is down about 20' and soil is sandy. Right next to the casing is a 2" metal pipe that extends about 2' above ground, and has a shutoff valve and spigot/hose at the top. When he opens the valve, water comes out. He doesn't know how it operates but says the water pump does not come on when he uses it (and he has used it to top off his swimming pool). He doesn't do anything in the winter, even though it gets to 10 below zero here - it has even been used a few times in the dead of winter - and there is no apparent freeze damage. Neither of us can figure out how it works. Is it like a shunt line that taps into the original drilled well? If not, and it is just a point driven into the ground, how does water pressure develop when there is no pump involved?

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Subject: very low flow


Author:
william Ruple
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Date Posted: 13:37:15 05/15/08 Thu
(NoHost/206.123.217.138)
I live in new mexico.I have a well that was on my property when I bought, 25 years ago. It used to supply the 1 acre site, with plenty of water.When we got city water, I quit using it. Recently I installed a submerged pump, but after 6 minutes, it quits producing. i CAN UNPLUG IT FOR 10 MINUTES,then it will have lots of pressure for 5 minutes then quit.About 20 years ago, I had this problem, and found a man that put a blasting cap down the well, after it exploded, I had water again. Could this be done again? I welcome any advice.

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Subject: -Shallow well Troubleshooting


Author:
Wilson (Tired)
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Date Posted: 12:41:30 05/05/08 Mon
(NoHost/208.60.35.95)
Hi !

I've started to dig a shallow well and drove 25 feet of a 2 inches pvc pipe. 10 feet is stuck into sand and the remaining 15 feet that I connect through inside coupling came off ungled with the water pressure. Iam able to re-attach it but it comes off when the wahter pressure builds up.

Any ideas on how I can secure it so I can continue the work?

I've tried a few things: Inserted a 3/4 pipe down the hole and added water pressure to see if I could release the 2inches pipe; no luck. The 3/4 pipe went down to 40 feet.

Can I continue to drive the 1 1/4 at this point?

I'd hate to start everything all over again.

Thanks for not laughing.!!!

Wilson

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Subject: Conditioning systems and water pressure


Author:
Jayne (sad)
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Date Posted: 08:44:58 05/11/08 Sun
(c-69-142-83-145.hsd1.nj.comcast.net/69.142.83.145)
I have an old water conditionng system that I constantly have rust with. It has a big white tub that I put salt in. I found a tall blue system in a house I bought and wanted to hook it up. HOw difficult would this be? Also the water pressure is horrible and was wondering how I would find out if it has a submersable well. Help!!
thanks

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Subject: Washed Well for irrigation - learning as I go :)


Author:
Tommy
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Date Posted: 06:42:47 04/22/08 Tue
(user-24-214-105-142.knology.net/24.214.105.142)
I have washed a 2" PVC down to 26 ft and the static water level is 8 ft from the ground surface. This would give me 18 ft of water in the pipe. The sand looks like a medium grit sand at this level.

Question:

1. Since this well is at 26 ft and the static water is 8 ft, would a 1 1\4 - .010 - 5 ft long well screen be a good choice? If this is not a good choice, what would you suggest?

2. If the static water level were to reach below the 18 ft level, the top of the 5 ft well screen, would the pump stop pumping water?

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Subject: Rust In Sprinkler System


Author:
Jerry
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Date Posted: 09:27:58 05/10/08 Sat
(adsl-074-170-038-197.sip.mco.bellsouth.net/74.170.38.197)
Is there anything that can be done to prevent rust from a sprinkler system run off of a well?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Jerry

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Subject: New Well Project


Author:
Russ Wegner (Russ Wegner)
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Date Posted: 14:40:24 05/08/08 Thu
(c-71-236-177-40.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/71.236.177.40)
I called a driller and he said that if I went on the Washington State site for Ecology under well logs that I would find out if I had water or not at 20-25 Ft.

I live near a stream and not far from a Wetland... He suggested I would not.

Anyone know where I can get help with my project around Camas/ Vancouver, WA? Thanks Russ (rwegner@lmi.net)

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Subject: Water hammer


Author:
Al Wolff
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Date Posted: 15:05:54 05/05/08 Mon
(ip68-229-67-136.ri.ri.cox.net/68.229.67.136)
I have a 14 year old 200 ft well with a submersible pump. Recently it has started making a banging noise about 1 second after the motor starts. The Bladder type air tank is OK with 30 lbs of pressure. There is a 1 inch check valve just before the tee that leads to the house pipes and the expansion tank.
The noise is noticeable throughout the house but no surge or air comes out of the faucets. Will this damage anything and how do I fix it?
Thanks
Al

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Subject: how to pull packer ejetor deep well setup


Author:
cindy (help)
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Date Posted: 08:49:03 11/01/08 Sat
(pm3-4-150.westby.mwt.net/207.190.66.150)
already have bought a new pressure tank, and we can get water but the tank will not build pressure to shut pump off. Suggestions, do you think I have to pull the pump.

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Subject: well pump size


Author:
jim hess
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Date Posted: 18:34:10 05/05/08 Mon
(cache-dtc-ah09.proxy.aol.com/205.188.117.201)
I am putting in a new well for my cottage in northern michigan. The cottage has 3 1/2 baths and am thinking about putting in a sprinkler system at a later date. The well depth has been estimated to be around 120 feet. I have gotten several quotes and the size of the pump varies from 1/2 hp to 1hp. Do you have any recommendations regarding what size pump I would need for this cottage.

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Subject: New Sprinkler Pump Pressure Problem


Author:
Jerry
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Date Posted: 08:19:18 04/13/08 Sun
(adsl-074-170-038-197.sip.mco.bellsouth.net/74.170.38.197)
I recently installed two wells in Central Florida using the Brady method. Both are 1 1/4" wells about 24' deep with the water level at about 17'. I rented a 5 hp gas pump from Lowes to develop and test them with. They produced very well.

#1 produced 26 gpm at startup and went down to 19 GPM after 1 hour of continous pumping.
#2 produced 18 GPM at startup and went down to 12 GPM after 1 hour of continous pumping.
Then I purchased my pump a 1 1/2HP Flotec Plastic sprinkler pump. I then Teed the two wells together into an 1/1/2" brady check valve (It appeared to be the best check valve).

I then tested it again right at the pump, with the combined wells and the new pump and I was able to get 20GPM. So that seemed plenty.

I then fed this into my existing sprinler system. My largest zones are 6 x 3gpm heads or 18 GPM. It appeared that the 1 1/2 HP Flotec should be plenty.

However here is the problem:

#1 Should it take 4 to 5 minutes to produce water after the pump has been primed?

#2 When running on the large zones the sprinkler pressure surges. It goes from full power down to just a small spray. It will cycle like this over and over about every 30 seconds. It does not do this on the small zones. If I try to start it up an hour later it will take it another 4 to 5 minutes to start producing water. Then the surging starts again.

Is this a suction leak?

If so how do I find it?

If it is a suction leak, do you think it is before the check valve or after it? Since it is taking 4 to 5 minutes to start producing water.

My pressure guage is only showing about 29 to 30 lbs, shouldn't this be higher?

Do I need a bigger pump?

Thanks for your help.

Jerry

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Subject: Well Re-use


Author:
Tom
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Date Posted: 12:01:27 04/28/08 Mon
(adsl-233-198-145.mia.bellsouth.net/74.233.198.145)
Again, I want to thank you all for your help. Reading this board and your answers has helped me greatly understand how wells work, and make me undertake a new project. Setting a well. I have several questions before undertaking this, so here they are. I like to try and Think through everything prior to doing.

The quote for a new well was $1200.00 I Love to do projects, and this seems like a cool one. Should I just pay for this? It is for sprinklers only, so it is never potable.

1. Can I reuse the existing well? If I pull the pipe, can I simply sink a new pipe in the existing hole.

1a. If I cannot reuse the existing well, I believe that I should pour concrete down the pipe. Since the well is 30', and the water table is at 9', do I need to put 21' of concrete down the pipe? Can I cut the existing pipe off beneath the ground once this is done, or how do I properly cap the well off to abandon it.

2. How far away should the new well head be from the old one?

3. Should I use the same depth for the new one as the old one?

4. How should I set? I'm a little worried about coral since I'm within 3 miles of the coast. If I go an inexpensive way, I don't mind trying two or three times (Washing v driving)

5. Any thoughts from anyone of anything I haven't thought about?


HD and Lowes both sell all types of points and screens and what not, and the guys there aren't sure how to even use them. I've read the Brady method, and the parent page to this site, and either seems good to me.

Again, Thank you all for your help.

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Subject: Need Direction-New Well used for Irrigation System Poor Performance in one of the sprinkler zones


Author:
Marc Stewart
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Date Posted: 10:04:05 05/03/08 Sat
(c-68-60-38-48.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/68.60.38.48)
I would appreciate any guidance or direction anyone could provide me. I am lacking much of the technical information at this point that would be required to hone in on an actual 'root cause' however I am hoping that someone can help me get pointed in the right direction.

BACKGROUND:

I had a house built two years ago. At the time the city had not run water to my subdivision (new development). In order for people to move into their new homes the builder had wells dug. Once the city had run water to the homes the homeowner could decide to seal the well.etc. Most homeowners kept the wells to run their irrigation systems.

PROBLEM:
I had my sprinkler system put in after city water was available and hooked it directly to my well. I live on a small 1/4 acre lot and have 5 sprinkler zones. The first summer all of the zones seemed to have enough pressure to allow the sprinklers to run properly (40PSI I recall). The second year most of the zones are peforming adequately, however 2 of the zones are not working well at all. These zones are a bit larger than the others but not by much. I have had the sprinkler company out 3 times. They have said that the well is either running dry, not pumping water out fast enough...or that they don't know, however the sprinklers themselves are tuned and running perfectly. The neighbors to the left and to the right me me (and all that I have spoken to in my sub) all have good pressure on their sprinklers.

I had guy come out (independent sprinkler company) and winterize my system last year and he just fired it up for the summer. He tuned my holding tank to increase the pressure. For the most troublesome zone he has it set to 50PSI, however when the zone kicks in drops to 30 and I get very poor performance (ie heads won't lift up all the way......etc). He said flat out that I need a more powerful pump.

I know I need to pull my well log. The driller who put the well in 2 years ago for the builder won't come to see me for less than 500 bucks to perform a flow test. If I have to pay I have to pay but am looking for some insight here before pull out my check book.

Any help would be appreciated. Thx Much

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Subject: PSI won't go above 20


Author:
Pat Warren
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Date Posted: 06:33:13 04/26/08 Sat
(74-32-63-64.dsl1.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net/74.32.63.64)
We replaced our pump and water tank. Cut in is at 20 Cut off is at 40 as manufacturer states. We don't know how to check if that is correct. The tank was set to 38psi when we first turned it on and the pump was going on and off. Then we set water tank to 18 psi and the pump goes on. We have water pressure in the faucets when on, but the tank psi won't go above 20psi. And the pump doesn't shut off. Husband thinks the problem is in the well - cracked line or faulty foot value. Although instructions say if faulty value the pump will go on and off. It doesn't. We have a 86 gal. tank. Could it be that it is taking too long to fill? Could it be air in the line? We have a positive well so with nothing on the pipes the water just flows out so we know the pump is primed. Help please, my husband needs a shower bad!!!!

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Subject: Air in the line


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Mike (nervous)
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Date Posted: 13:12:36 04/28/08 Mon
(24-183-176-70.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com/24.183.176.70)
I have replaced the pressure tank and all fittings in the house about 4 months ago and everything was fine until last week. I started getting air in the lines. After checking out what I could I am thinking its a foot valve in the well it self. Any advise? Oh here are the symptons

Air the longer it sits so in the morning the shower spits at you and when you flush

water pressure has not changed

I have disconnected the foot valve in the house and it seems fine

Checked the pressure tank and is hoplding at 38PSI

When I have the foot valve off in the house and just the plastic pipe coming out of the wall from the well and the pump off you can hear it draining back to the well. Is that normal?

Water is clear and no dirt or sand.

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Subject: Seeking advice on adding irrigation system


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Jim (Southern NH)
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Date Posted: 14:26:46 04/24/08 Thu
(pool-71-168-118-219.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net/71.168.118.219)
My home has a dug well. The water flow in the home has always been good. The flow via a 1/2 copper pipe to a faucet head then through a garden hose, is about 6.5 gallons a minute. In 20 years, the well has never run dry. I've just had two estimates done to add a lawn irrigation system. One contractor recommends a 5-6 zone system with two spray heads on each zone. He said, I can then switch between different zones and not overtax the(1/2 hp)jet pump or well. The other contractor said all I need is a two zone system with 6 spay heads each. He would install a regulator that will monitor the water pressure and shut the water flow off if the water pressure drops to a set point then start the flow again when the presure has rebuilt.
I could use some unbiased advice on what would be the best option.

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Subject: Quality of WaterSource well points?


Author:
Ellen
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Date Posted: 09:21:00 04/24/08 Thu
(66-162-201-130.static.twtelecom.net/66.162.201.130)
I am about to buy materials to drive in a well to a depth of about 25 feet. When I go the Northern Tool Site their well points are made by WaterSource. The 2 inch diameter one gets lousy reviews and the 1 1/4 inch one gets great reviews. The main complaints were the 2 inch ones were flimsy and broke or bent when driven. Anybody have experience with them that they can share with me? It makes no sense to me that one would be better than the other. Also, cast iron has been mentioned as an alternative to stainless steel for well points. Any thoughts about this?

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Subject: Seeking advice on adding irrigation system


Author:
Jim
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Date Posted: 14:23:06 04/24/08 Thu
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My home has a dug well. The water flow in the home has always been good. The flow via a 1/2 copper pipe to a faucet head then through a garden hose, is about 6.5 gallons a minute. In 20 years, the well has never run dry. I've had two estimates done to add a lawn irrigation system. One contractor recommends a 5-6 zone system with two spray heads on each zone. He said, I can then switch between different zones and not overtax the(1/2 hp)jet pump or well. The other contractor said all I need is a two zone system with 6 spay heads each and a regulator that will monitor the water pressure and shut the water flow off if the water pressure drops to a set point then start the flow again when the presure has rebuilt.
I could use some unbiased advice on what would be best.

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Subject: Water well for sprinkler system and house


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Kyle
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Date Posted: 20:00:13 04/13/08 Sun
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I am in the process of moving into out new house and was thinking about a water sprinkler system. The well should be drilled plumbed etc in the next 2 weeks or so.

My question is, can I run my sprinkler system off of the same well as the house? How do I regulate the pressure, and how much pressure usually goes to the house and how much to a sprinkler system.

I have researched a little, but can't really find this info.

Thanks,
Kyle

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Subject: 2" sandpoint sprinkler system well - planning


Author:
Chris (Learning)
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Date Posted: 19:23:55 04/08/08 Tue
(c-68-60-160-71.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/68.60.160.71)
I am in the planning stages of my irrigation well. My neighbors have wells 25-28 ft deep. Based on this I believe I will have to use a deep well system (to be safe). From going over the site and reading the posts - I am guessing the packer ejector deep well setup is my only option with a 2" sandpoint driven well. Am I correct in this assumption? Thanks for your help.

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Subject: What type of well point to use


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Tommy
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Date Posted: 15:44:49 04/09/08 Wed
(user-24-214-105-215.knology.net/24.214.105.215)
I'm in the process of making a shallow well to irrigate my lawn. I need your advice on what direction I should go.

So far, I have taken a 10 ft. metal pipe and taped a 4" diameter arger with duck tape to the end of the pipe. I put this in the ground and twisted the pipe about 3 turns, then pulled the pipe out to dump the dirt. I hit water about 7 1/2 ft. down. I have been able to go about 1 1/2 feet more but all I get now is very wet sand. I am at 9 feet but can not go any deeper using this method.

I would like to go about 20 to 25 feet down with a 2 inch 5' long PVC .010 well point. To do this, I would use the Brady system if I use a PVC drill point. The other method I could use is the drive method with 3/4 pipe with a stainless steel drill point not sure what gauge 60 or 80 would be best. I'm not sure which method would be the right way to go.

The stainless steel well points that I have seen online are 36" long. Which would give the most water?

I'm looking at 3 wells and use one 1 hp jet pump.

Your advice would be helpful.

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Subject: sta rite pump


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gordon (stumped)
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Date Posted: 15:19:43 02/24/08 Sun
(cblmdm72-241-112-150.buckeyecom.net/72.241.112.150)
I have a sta rite pump on a 12 gallon tank that lost its prime and quit working about two weeks ago. i have the same pump and tank for my garden so i'm using that now with no problems. I bought a rebuilding kit for the first pump. when i took it apart everything looked fine but I replaced it anyhow. darned if it still won't prime. motor sounds fine. any ideas before I by a new one would be appreciated!! thanks

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Subject: Mud pump


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Tommy
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Date Posted: 20:42:32 04/07/08 Mon
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Is there another name for a mud pump. I have heard people using a mud pump when washing a well. After you have drilled down to wet sand or as deep as you need to go, you use the mud pump to pump out sand at the bottom of the well. The sand caves in and you pump the sand out creating a reservior for your wellpoint. I have been unable finding such a pump for the rental stores. They have a trash pump for dirty water only but not for pumping sand.

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Subject: Sanitary hand pump


Author:
Scott (help)
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Date Posted: 12:27:58 04/01/08 Tue
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I have a Baker Monitor force-type hand pump on a well where I'm building my house, where I hoped to live without electricity. I've learned that the county health department requires a pressurized water system for dwellings. Can I adapt a hand pump to do this, or to otherwise satisfy the code's aim of preventing contamination from air when water flows back through the weep hole below the frost line?

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Subject: Washed Well Help


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Tommy
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Date Posted: 12:51:24 04/01/08 Tue
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I live in Montgomery, AL. I want to drill a washed well to water my yard. I have read a number of web sites on how to drill a shallow well. Brady had good instructions on the way to do this. I'm not clear on (1)how deep the well should be (2) what type of wellpoint with slots and how many to place on the final PVC pipe (3) what does the 2-3 GPM per foot mean? Is it the feet of the slotted wellpoint? The slotted wellpoint is 4', therefore I should get 8 to 12 GPM of water if I have a good well?
(4) what type of pump should I use?

Thanks,
You advice would be helpful.

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Subject: installing a well by using an air compressor


Author:
r staudt
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Date Posted: 16:56:12 03/31/08 Mon
(ool-18bd33da.dyn.optonline.net/24.189.51.218)
does anyone have experience installing a small diameter(2") well using a large capacity air compressor(125 cfm) They refer to it as blowing in a well and I'm interested on how its done
Thanks

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Subject: help, advice please


Author:
nick devonshire (struggling)
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Date Posted: 02:50:40 03/25/08 Tue
(B94_acl1.gw.smartbro.net/203.84.185.154)
Hi everybody,
I am building a beachfront house in the philippines, i have to create a well but cannot buy proper fitting so i will have to improvise, i can create a drive point easily enough but the only joiners are iron with a re'enforcing ring around them,

I'm worried that the oversize joints will make it difficult to drive in, if i machine them off i'm afraid they will be too weak,

Also will ordinary galv pipe be ok for the point and screen, and how long a section should be perforated.

Many Thanks

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Subject: old well


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rob roberts
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Date Posted: 13:44:30 03/24/08 Mon
(d149-67-28-150.col.wideopenwest.com/67.149.150.28)
I have an 2in. well hasn't been used in 20 years its 25 feet deep and water sits in it at about 15feet. It was powered by an old piston pump I replaced the leathers on the rods fired it up but no water came out. I tried a hand pump but still no water.Any ideas would be appreciated.My son and I started to drive a new well right next to the old one only got to 12 feet driving very difficult (1 1/4)so I thought I'd go back to the old well. thanks rob

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Subject: how to pull submerged pump to make it non-electric


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Daniel (hopeful)
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Date Posted: 00:03:24 03/16/08 Sun
(adsl-227-14-253.jan.bellsouth.net/74.227.14.253)
My parents have an old submered pump well. the pump quit several years back, since they also had city water they never fixed the well. How would you cheaply pull the pump and use as a bucket well. I believe the caseing is 3 or 4". It has a tank so I assume it is a deep well. Over a hundred feet. thanks for any help.

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Subject: Driving Point Well


Author:
Lou
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Date Posted: 07:13:02 03/12/08 Wed
(static-72-85-254-141.bstnma.east.verizon.net/72.85.254.141)
I'm interested in driving a point well, my area of interest per the Web Soil Survey is 100% "freetown muck". I live on the edge of a lake and most of the year it is full of water (we currently have a pvc line submerged and are pumping out only for lawn irrigation nothing more). By the end of the summer this area dries up, but I'm wondering if I drive a point well at the edge, if this will sustain water? The area is about 10' below the grade of the home/shed where the pump is located now so we pump uphill by priming the line first.

Thanks for any replies
Lou

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Subject: no water


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janet
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Date Posted: 10:33:54 03/11/08 Tue
(cpe-65-185-105-6.woh.res.rr.com/65.185.105.6)
My husband and bought our house about a year ago,we have a well but we run out of water very easily.Ican do 1 load of laundry and a shower and it will be out.It takes about 3-4 hrs to come back does any one have any suggestions.Please Help. Thanks janet

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Subject: Which rig would you reccomend


Author:
Richard
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Date Posted: 18:52:59 03/02/08 Sun
(NoHost/144.226.230.37)
I have been considering drilling my own water well and have been researching different portable rigs that are available. I was wondering if anyone has any reccomendations as to which one if any is better to use. I have looked at the Rockmaster tx 450, the hydra 2000 by Hydrafab, the ls200 very little info found on this one, as well as a few others. Any input regarding this would be greatly appreciated and very helpful in making my decision. Thanks, Richard Fleming

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Subject: setting up pump & old style pressure tank


Author:
Richard
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Date Posted: 10:21:44 03/05/08 Wed
(70-41-174-143.cust.wildblue.net/70.41.174.143)
I'm setting up a pump and an old style pressure tank (non bladder type)for my outside watering needs. We just happened to have one of these tanks my dad gave us when he got city water sitting around.Although I feel the bladder tank is more efficient, I would prefer to not have the additional expense of buying one. It's already got the air chuck installed.

Can any body give me any advice on setting up the system? Do I need to add any air to the tank initially?

Thanks

Richard

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Subject: water wells


Author:
john
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Date Posted: 16:20:24 02/21/08 Thu
(CPE704b2e8ecd34-CM00111adf89d4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.243.126.247)
i was going to build a water well model for a university project, i was just wondering if you fellow people can give me advice on how to build the model of a water well and what to use :(

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Subject: water table


Author:
Nancy (help)
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Date Posted: 11:52:28 02/22/08 Fri
(24-178-32-135.dhcp.rcpt.tx.charter.com/24.178.33.135)
My husband and I are using a sand point and we are down 17 feet and have hit water,I think we are in the second round of clay.My question is where can we find out about the water table for Aransas County(Rockport)Tx.?If anyone can please help us...The water will not be used for drinking...

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Subject: Sprinkler Well problems


Author:
Mike Thomas (Angry)
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Date Posted: 18:56:07 02/17/08 Sun
(c-66-177-247-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/66.177.247.189)
Hello,
I live in Florida. I have a 2" well driven to about 120 ft. The static water level is about 20' now. For some reason, after a year of good service, I am getting sand into my heads. I installed a in-line sand filter, but it quickly clogs with very fine sand; thus, the system clogs.

Someone told me a drop pipe would help the problem (I am drawing off the casing) So, I purchased a 2 4' sections of PVC well points ( 1 1/4) and 40 ft of pipe, connected it all, and dropped it into my well. The pressure went to half of what it was.

Now, I am at whits end. Is there a way to clear the well of sand? Anyone have some ideas?

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Subject: help please


Author:
anne mcfarland (really scared)
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Date Posted: 21:04:14 02/02/08 Sat
(Kinde-78-232.dyn.avci.net/66.211.78.232)
I live in michigan and we had a relly bad storm that took out everything. forze everything. it has froze before so no biggie well my husband went out to get it working andnoticed the water pump was cracked so they replace the motor and everything and now they cant get it working is there something he can do to make it work so we can have water that wont cost very much. is there anyone out there that can help me? please i would appreciate it.

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Subject: Brown Water from our Faucet suddenly


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Sandra Gagnon
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Date Posted: 20:02:27 02/01/08 Fri
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My husband just ran the water from the kitchen sink and it was reddish brown. I have let some sit to see if there is sediment. No result yet.
What could it be...we are clueless.
We are on a well and have a Kinetico water softener. The hot water is still clear. We are at a loss of what to do.
Please help...Thank you.
Sandy and Jack

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Subject: Shallow well pump shuts off


Author:
Mike (confused)
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Date Posted: 14:46:43 02/02/08 Sat
(12-218-67-154.client.mchsi.com/12.218.67.154)
I have a 1/2 hp myers jet pump with a 7 mo old well which is 25' deep. Sometimes when I run water for a long time (shower) etc. the water will stop. After anywhere from 5-15 minutes of no use it will come on again. I have a galvanized (not pressurized tank) that never has had an air volume control and the tank is not waterlogged. Can anyone offer any suggestions.

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Subject: New well problems


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Dan
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Date Posted: 23:18:49 02/02/08 Sat
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I had a new well drilled, 140ft. 4" 1hp pump. While flowing well to clean it out the pump will run for 40 minutes and shut off. Disconnect power and turn it back on there is no clicking sound from motor control box. If it is off for an hour or so and restarted it works fine for another 40 minutes. Then the same thing. Is the motor control bad or is the pump overheating? It is a Pentek CSIR box with a Pentek 3 wire 230V pump.

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Subject: Overflowing well


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Mike
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Date Posted: 12:34:19 02/02/08 Sat
(cpe-24-24-93-234.stny.res.rr.com/24.24.93.234)
I have a fairly new well driven at my camp. The well is 125' deep and is in bedrock. The water has been tested and is potable. In the springtime, when the water level of the camp lake is high and the ground is saturated with spring rains, the well overflows at the top of the well casing (18" above ground and sealed) causing somewhat of a mess around the well casing. Once the spring rains are over and the lake level is lower, the overflow stops. Can someone explain why this is happening and what can be done to divert the excess water when the well overflows ?

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Subject: wells in Las Vegas, NM


Author:
Marlene Rodarte
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Date Posted: 09:41:39 02/01/08 Fri
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If anyone can give me some advise that would be greatly app.
I want to by a fixer upper house in las Vegas NM, property has a well that does not work not sure what the problem is. Can anyone refer me to a honest well contracter/driller/trouble shooter. What is the honest going rate to have a new well drilled. Whom do I ask about well drilling regulations/permits ects? I am clueless.
Thanks

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Subject: deep well pump hole in casing


Author:
michael johnson (verry sad help???????)
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Date Posted: 18:37:23 02/03/08 Sun
(24-247-204-171.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com/24.247.204.171)
i have a deep well pump and my pump runs all the time. we hade a well guy look at it and he said that it hade a hole in the casing i thank it is a to pipe system it is about 40years old. i was wondering if i could put pvc pipe down in side the casing around the to pipe to stop the water and shut of my pump ps i need help thank you michael

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Subject: air in water


Author:
marsha baker
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Date Posted: 08:32:45 11/25/07 Sun
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Put in a new sand point well,28 ft. down 11 ft of water in pipe , new pump and tank. problem alot of air in faucets after pump has run. water looks very milky for a minute are so .

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