How about a detailed discussion about the specifics of vegatarianism? -- CHADI'S FORUM

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Subject: How about a detailed discussion about the specifics of vegatarianism?

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Sister Bunny
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Date Posted: 19:29:47 01/06/03 Mon
In reply to: chadi 's message, "ok... what shall we do?" on 13:59:36 01/05/03 Sun

All the vegans I know personally are Seventh Day Adventist, and all of them are so perky and happy that I just want to slap them. How does being a Vegan get you all that pep and energy?

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Well I don't consider myself christian or belonging to any sect of christianity. chadi 20:30:40 01/06/03 Mon

Not entirely true! -- Sacred Poontang, 20:56:23 01/06/03 Mon

It was just two years ago or so that the pope declared that catholics can believe in evolution. I think that the reason was that he couldn't contradict science more; otherwise the church would lose many believers. From all the scriptures,saints etc.. i found only saint Francis to be clearly for the respect of nature and the animals. -- chadi, 21:29:50 01/06/03 Mon

and at the time of that saint, the church used to persecute him, as usual, calling him demonic or other ignorant things, as they used to do with most scientists and even people who they used to burn and later name "saints". (NT) -- chadi, 21:48:04 01/06/03 Mon

Believe me, I'm no fan of the Catholic church! I like the meditative aspects, but it ends there. -- Sacred Poontang, 21:55:25 01/06/03 Mon

I didn't comment about that part of your previous message since I don't know much about it. I only commented on the catholic part and I didn't assume that you were in favor of catholicism. (NT) -- chadi, 22:09:23 01/06/03 Mon

And sorry if I wasn't accurate....I meant in theistic religions only the "abrahamic religions"... and at the end of the first paragraph I meant that most christians believe that Jesus is the only entire truth... (NT) -- chadi, 21:36:42 01/06/03 Mon
Okay. I was really just asking about vegetarianism, and how to go about being vegan. -- Sister Bunny, 01:29:45 01/07/03 Tue

There's a certain red alga called "Hijiki" that contains vitamin B-12 and is the best source of calcium. It contains much more calcium and Iron than any cow milk. Iron is also found in many vegetable sources, im not sure if it's found in broccoli I know that it's found in leaves like spinach but needs to be taken with a vitamin C source (e.g lemon juice) to be adequately absorbed. -- chadi, 01:57:38 01/07/03 Tue
Does soy milk provide the full protein that comes in meat? And doesn't spinach also contain Vitamin C? (NT) -- Sacred Poontang, 03:00:49 01/07/03 Tue

yeah it provides all the essential amino acids to humans, though you can also get them by proper cereal-legume combining. Both cereals and legumes lack one essential amino acid, but not the same one!! (NT) -- chadi, 03:34:40 01/07/03 Tue
Many soy products are deadly. -- Antichadi II, 04:22:47 01/07/03 Tue

How many stomachs do you have? The Antichadi 00:54:17 01/07/03 Tue

I am vegan and i don't have four stomachs, duh! (NT) -- chadi, 01:41:43 01/07/03 Tue

Then you're probably malnourished. -- Antichadi II, 03:56:51 01/07/03 Tue

huh? 10 m long intestin is short for you ? (NT) -- chadi, 04:12:44 01/07/03 Tue

Yes, it is. Much too short. -- Antichadi II, 04:29:15 01/07/03 Tue

Cellulose? omg, do you know why you need fibers that are not digested by humans (e.g cellulose) in your diet? -- chadi, 05:02:36 01/07/03 Tue

Right. -- Antichadi II, 01:26:44 01/08/03 Wed

hunter-gatherer means a gatherer who can occasionally hunt when food becomes scarce. But if food is available, he doesn't need to practice farming that drastically degrades the environment and consume 16 times more water than agriculture, if organic agriculture can provide more than the least required food. -- chadi, 02:24:19 01/08/03 Wed

I'm afraid I lost you, chadi...What is the farming that drastically degrades the environment, and how does this relate to the length of our intestines?? -- Former Anti-Chadi, 03:03:37 01/08/03 Wed

wealthy Americans or whoever... the nationality is not the problem as long as they are wealthy and powerful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- chadi, 04:11:47 01/08/03 Wed

I'm not arguing that point. Raising livestock does put demands on the environment. I'm simply contending humans are designed to consume meat, and quite a bit of it. If the planet cannot sustain our protein requirements, we need to look at addressing the population issue. -- Antichadi II, 04:06:39 01/08/03 Wed

would you please delete the text you're replying to when you type only in the subject box? -- chadi, 04:25:11 01/08/03 Wed

Don't avoid the subject. (NT) -- Antichadi II, 04:35:29 01/08/03 Wed

Cellulose absorption notwithstanding, wouldn't it be possible to at least get the proteins and vitamins we need from a vegetable and grain-based diet? -- Former Anti-Chadi, 05:34:29 01/08/03 Wed
What you have have to decide is: are people more important than cows raised for food? -- Sister Bunny, 05:53:55 01/08/03 Wed

I'm confused. Are you saying that people should be vegetarians because they should have a nice environment to live in, or they should be meat-eaters because they're more important than cattle? (NT) -- Former Anti-Chadi, 21:22:16 01/09/03 Thu

Hey! I used to be the Anti-Chadi! Don't tell me there's two of us! (NT) -- Former Anti-Chadi, 03:05:13 01/07/03 Tue

Sorry. -- Antichadi II, 04:00:10 01/07/03 Tue