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Subject: A serious cruise anyone ?


Author:
Ivan Chalmers
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Date Posted: Sunday, May 25, 08:03:47pm
Hi you will most probably think i am mad, but i am looking for someone to sail to South Africa with me on my Mk1 fin keel....... Any takers ???
If you have ever dreamed of an adventure like this and have no commitments for the next few months why not give me a call ? I am a very easy going 42 year old guy and am not fussed whether it's a male or female person i just need someone to go with me........
Go on, MAKE CONTACT you know you want to......
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Subject: Pandora Mk1


Author:
John E
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Date Posted: Sunday, May 25, 07:47:53pm
Hello,
we have recently acquired an early Mk1. The hull is in very good condition and the interior is virtually complete and original. It has a mast and boom but no rigging cables, we would like to restore this "Pandora" to her original condition and specifications. We know absolutely nothing about sailing craft as my main interest and usage is within the motor boat fraternity. Could anyone assist or help in relation to copy drawings photos etc of interior lay out/rigging,sail plans etc. Any help would be very much appreciated. Also could anyone advise as to where if any, the hull identification number would be located? So we can actually date its production more accurately, if anyone has heard of it it is called the "John E" and has not been renamed to our knowledge.
Many thanks in advance John and Keith.

p.s. could you also point us in the right direction so we may join the owners club and get sailing!!
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Subject: Jib Sheet Winches


Author:
Leigh Belcham
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Date Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 10:09:44pm
Can anyone advise which currently-available jib sheet winches would fit our Pandora International? For instance, Harken B6 or B8 - although the B8 appears to have too large a diameter for the space available. Are there other makes that would suffice? We need to replace the original Barton winches (that have the handle underneath!) with winches adequate for this OAP to handle a large genoa singlehanded.
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Subject: pand0ra international


Author:
Eddie (Hopeful)
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Date Posted: Monday, May 19, 10:56:27am
Just purchased a really nice bilge keel international. Ideal for our east coast. Need to change sheet winches for geared down self tailing type possibly two speed. Getting old. Thats me and the winches. Also i would like to fit a ST tiller pilot but the measurements dont stack up. Any body out there who can help. i feel sure some of you welsh racers can help. Eddie
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Subject: Mast and Trailering


Author:
Hammy Hamilton
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Date Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 04:24:46pm
As you all might have guessed I'm about to launch for this season, so here's another question. Is it feasible to trailer the boat with the mast folded back, pin in place, and resting on a crosstree in the push pit. It would be supported 13 feet from the heel. I'm worried about stress on the mast during transport....roads are not great round here and it's a 35 mile journey.
All the best
Hammy
Subject: Cockpit Drain


Author:
Hammy Hamilton
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Date Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 04:19:16pm
Thanks Tony,
In fact a large amount of something has been slathered around where the drain comes through on the inside of the hull, so I'm obviously not the first to have this problem with 686.
All the best
Hammy
Subject: Pandora 700 Rudder


Author:
Cameron
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Date Posted: Monday, April 28, 04:25:10pm
Hi

Can anyone point me in the direction of a replacement rudder for a drop keel pandora 700. The boat is on the West Coast of Scotland- should I be able to take the old one to someone local and have a replecement made up. Does anyone have experience of cost?

Many thanks
Cameron
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Subject: Pandora 700 Lifting Keel


Author:
Julian Tucker (Help)
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Date Posted: Monday, April 28, 04:10:15pm
I am trying to locate ANYBODY who has a Pandora 700 with a lifting keel.
A very king gentleman rang we recently when i was after some help with getting a replacement keel made up, (he had one for sale) IF he is reading this please call me again 07967 584399.

I would be most greatfull for anybody who owns a Pandora 700 to call me on 07967 584399 and i can explain my problem.
Subject: pandora early 80s for sale


Author:
michael mulvihill
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Date Posted: Sunday, April 27, 09:26:35pm
hi pandora on trailer fin keel,good condition. 5500 pounds. boat is in ireland, not far from ferry, so delivery to holyhead would be cheap. call me for details. 00353862575110
Subject: pandora 700 spray hood


Author:
rich
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Date Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 12:45:47pm
hi i am looking to purchase a spray hood and frames for a pandora 700 ,does anyone have one for sale second hand ,or know where i could get one made to ,who allready has a pattern for the 700,thanks rich
Subject: mast hight


Author:
tony
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Date Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 06:29:07pm
Thanks i was just checking my Mk1 dimension,found the mast is standard but the draught a bit deeper than standard,dont know why maybe a late Mk1. Tony
Subject: mast hight on international


Author:
Tony Caulfield
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Date Posted: Sunday, April 13, 09:03:24am
can anyone tell me the mast hight on a Pandora international.
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Subject: Navigation Lights


Author:
Ralft
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Date Posted: Thursday, April 10, 09:57:07am
Hi all
I am new to sailing, so please forgive my ignorance. I have a Pandora International (Pilgrim's Lady) moored at Loe Beach, near Truro in Cornwall. I have unstepped the mast, with the intention of checking and maybe replacing the rigging and the navigation lights and cables. I have checked the collregs and I am now confused about the necessary navigation lights! Am I right in thinking that I can have a three-colour light atop the mast for sailing, and an all-round white light for anchoring, and that I need no other lights? At the moment, there is a three-colour on top of the mast, a white light on the pushpit, a white light on the transom, and another white light about two-thirds of the way up the mast. If I only need an all-round white for anchoring, can I fit it above or near the tricolour? Help!
Also, I want to replace the cables and have tried to pull the existing cables throught the mast, with a mouse lead attached, but they won't budge. Any ideas why?
Subject: Last Resort


Author:
Julian (Help)
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Date Posted: Saturday, April 05, 05:24:35pm
Having had NO luck in finding a replacement keel.

Can anyone provide me with the dimensions etc of the lifting keel on a Pandora 700 so can atempt to TRY and get one made !
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Subject: Sails for Sale


Author:
Ben Matthews
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Date Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 09:19:38pm
Hi, I'm selling some sails from my Pandora on ebay.

One of them is a nice Sea Teach Furling Jib

Please follow these links....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280214356843&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280214356899&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280214356936&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280214356982&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280214357034&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280214357191&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018

Happy Sailing
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Subject: Trying to locate a centre board


Author:
Julian (Help)
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Date Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 02:41:40pm
Having recently lost my lifting keel on my Pandora 700
i am in search of a replacement? Please contact me if you can help..........07967 584399
Subject: INSURANCE


Author:
Trevor (Pandora International)
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Date Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 10:04:19pm
Hi,

anyone know of a good insurance company that insures older yachts? Need to get my International insured.

Thanks
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Subject: YVSC Web Site


Author:
Mark Harvey
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Date Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 11:03:40pm
Hi all I sail a Pandora on the Norfolk & Suffolk Broads with the Yare Valley Sailing Club and I have just created a new web site for the club why not have a look and see how we have fun on the Broads!
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Subject: International - Bilge Pump


Author:
Ralft
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Date Posted: Monday, March 10, 10:12:17pm
My surveyor recommended fitting a bilge pump into my International. He suggested cutting an access hole into the cabin deck, which has longish well in the centre. Does anyone have any experience or advice related to installing a bilge pump; the best place to install, the best way to run the exit pipe etc. I am a bit concerned about cutting into the deck, but if that's the only way!!!
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Subject: Water ingress


Author:
Ralft
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Date Posted: Thursday, March 06, 11:55:12am
Hi all
I've been beavering away at my new toy, an International, and quite by accident discovered that the gap between the cockpit deck and the underside moulding has been home to gallons (or the metric equivalent) of water, which has found its way in by various routes over the years. I drilled three smallish holes in the moulding below the companionway step, right at the point where it curves under the storage area. Water poured out and nearly filled the storage well! I have left the holes so that any other water can find an exit, since it is fairly easy to clear the water out of the storage well with a bailer. You might want to try this to see if you've been inadvertently carrying water inboard.
Subject: MK1 all up trailing weight


Author:
Chris Nicholl
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Date Posted: Monday, March 03, 09:49:59pm
Can anyone tell me the gross weight of a MK1 Pandora i want to buy a trailer and dont want to overload it or the towing vehicle.Thanks Chris
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Subject: Wired WInd Instrument


Author:
seamus
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Date Posted: Friday, February 29, 09:58:22pm
Hello,

Does anyone have any experience of fitting a wired wind instrument on a pandora 700?

How did you bring the cable into the cockpit from the base of the mast?

Thank you.
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Subject: SPLINTER 21 MUST SELL OFFERS


Author:
Sean Fallon
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Date Posted: Saturday, February 23, 07:18:36pm
See for sale message board.
Subject: Mast Height


Author:
Stuart
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Date Posted: Saturday, February 16, 09:48:13pm
Hi, does anyone know the height of a Pandora International mast, I want to replace the Mainsail and spinnaker haliards but am not sure how what length I need to buy !
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Subject: Outboard well


Author:
Ian
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Date Posted: Friday, February 15, 08:39:19am
I sail an International which has the outboard well filled and an outboard bracket mounted on the transom. I would like to move the outboard (a Yamaha 4HP 4 stroke) back into the well and mount a boarding ladder on the transom instead. Are there any hidden dangers or problems I should be aware of?

Any advice appreciated

Ian
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Subject: TRAILERS FOR BILGE KEELERS


Author:
Neil Lambton
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Date Posted: Sunday, February 10, 03:00:06pm
I`ve read several postings on here about trailers for the Pandora range. Well i can`t say about fin/drop keels, but if you own a bilge keel version (properly known as twin fin), there is a very easy, and often much cheaper, solution. When i bought my International in 91 she had a heavy duty 4 wheel trailer with 2 wide troughs for the keels to sit in. It took me a little while to realise that it was in fact a modified CAR trailer. Unfortunately i left the boat in a boatyard for quite a few years without launching due to lack of funds, and in that time i did`nt see her for a couple of years. As a result the trailer just rotted a bit too much, so i`m now looking at the modified car trailer option myself. You can pick up a good condition used car trailer (heavy duty) a lot cheaper than a purpose made boat one. All you have to do is to cut down the wheel troughs to the desired length. My trailor also had 3 scaffold clamps, 1 behind the jockey wheel and 1 either side at the front of the keel troughs which were location points for 3 galvanised scaffold poles to align the boat with strategicaly placed marks when the trailor was under water. It made retreaval so much easier and quicker. I hope this may be of benefit to some owners. Happy sailing........ Neil.
Subject: Pandora int age and sail no


Author:
Dom (Help)
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Date Posted: Saturday, February 09, 06:55:44pm
Hi, iv'e just become the proud owner of a fin keel international, and am new to sailing, although iv@ owned powerboats for many years, i decided its time to grow up, and learn to sail! the hullplate no is 411, but there are no sail no's, would the sail no be 411 too? also, can anyone help me date this boat? i think its probably early to mid 70's,
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Subject: Replacing internal seats/cushions


Author:
Stuart
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Date Posted: Monday, February 04, 10:20:28pm
Hi, I have just bought a Pandora International and the inside seating is a bit tired/torn, can anyone put me on to anyone who makes/refurbishes or sells replacements?
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Stuart
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Subject: HELP!!


Author:
Nic Parrott
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Date Posted: Friday, February 01, 07:46:55pm
Dear Pandora enthusiasts.

My name is Nic Parrott and I am currently studying yacht surveying in Southampton. As part of the assessment I have been asked to study in detail a boat which I am familiar with. As I grew up messing around on She's Electric (Used to be CO-Partner) in abersoch, I would very much like to study the Pandora. If anyone has any photos of their boats out of the water or technical drawings they would help alot. Thankyou for your time.

P.S. Your looking at crew for life if I pass this assignment!
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Subject: Pandora Spares


Author:
Stuart
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Date Posted: Friday, February 01, 07:25:23pm
Hi Happy New Year everyone, does anyone know whether anyone took over supplying spares for the Pandora International after Rydgeway marine stopped. I'm thinking about rudder / pins attachment and the table inside the cabin in particular.
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Subject: Pandora Register


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 05:01:22pm
Hi everyone.

I have posted a couple of messages here on this forum which I found the other day, but I feel that its time to come clean with you all. Although I do in fact own a Pandora ( A 700 no684 ) I also own and run Abersoch Boatyard Services Ltd, funnily enough based in Abersoch N Wales.

My yard looks after a good number of the North Wales fleet, preparing them for the water and carrying out jobs for owners and advising them over the winter months.

As much as I enjoy prodding boats my main passion is sailing them, (so if you want to sail lots NEVER buy a boatyard!!) and 2007 will see No 684 back on the water for the first time in a good few years.

Having probably the largest fleet in the country I would like to set up a register, to run alongside the Owners Association, of all the Pandoras that are still around.

This will not cost anyone any money and I am prepared to donate as much time to this as needed, and I hope it will become as lively as the Pandora Week dinners have been over the past years, ( so I'm told!!), and perhaps it will encourage more people to come and join in the fun that is Welsh open week.

Any thoughts on this would be most welcome.

All the best

Tim
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Subject: Bow Roller


Author:
Ralft
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Date Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 09:05:21am
Hi
Thanks to Tony for help with mast unstepping - went fairly well, no major mishaps. It has been suggested that I fit a bow roller (Pandora International), as mooring and anchor have worn into the rubbing strake at the bow. Can anyone advise a suitable type, eg. should it be offset? What type will suit anchor chain and mooring rope etc.
Subject: Gross Weight


Author:
Charlie Morris
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Date Posted: Sunday, January 13, 12:36:56pm
Can anyone please tell me what the gross weight of a Pandora International (bilge keel)is as I need to trailer one which I have just bought back to my home club.

Thanks

Charlie Morris
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Subject: Unstepping/stepping the mast


Author:
Ralft
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Date Posted: Thursday, January 10, 08:55:58pm
Hi
I'm new to sailing and have just purchased a Pandora International. I am eager to learn to sail her, but first there is some work to do. One item is to replace all of the standing rigging, which I am told is the original 1975 vintage. Can anyone help with advice on how to go about unstepping the mast, removing and replacing the rigging and re-stepping? The back-stay has a roller-furling, is this a complication? Any hints, tips, do's and dont's will be very gratefully received.
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Subject: SL400 Sea Toilet


Author:
Ian
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Date Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 02:17:11pm
Does anyone have knowledge of how to free sea-cocks which are seized up?
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Subject: Mk1 furry lining


Author:
Ivan Chalmers
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Date Posted: Friday, January 04, 01:29:40pm
Hi,i have a problem in that my lining inside my boat is coming away in places leaving what she refers to as mange patches !I think it was applied when new ,its very short pile fibre coating which is brown in colour and a bugger to shift where it doesn't want to !!If anyone knows how to remove it or get it redone i will be eternally gratefull.
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Subject: Cabin Roof fittings


Author:
Paul Williams
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Date Posted: Saturday, December 29, 03:24:02pm
Any advice please, I am looking to fix some blocks on top of the cabin of my Pandora mk1., idea being that I am trying to set up a uphaul/ downhaul for the spinnaker pole, might also want to move halyards aft to the cockpit.
The cabin roof is double lined, between the linings are there reinforced areas that may be used to push bolts through.
Has anyone any ideas, of technical knowledge of the construction of a Mark 1 Pandora roof.
Thanks, Paul
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Subject: Trotter-Pandora


Author:
Lance S. Staub (Delighted)
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Date Posted: Thursday, December 27, 09:53:15pm
I have just purchased what was described as a 1966 Trotter. My researched has informed me this is a Trotter-Pandora. It is in pretty good condition with no obvious problems. I am excited to start sailing it considering what has looked like a pretty good reputation. I am trying to clean up the title. No hull number was found by the two prior owners so it has been given a new serial number. I would like to get its hull number on the title it I can find it. If anyone out there has one of these real old Van de Stadt built boats and can tell me where I can find the hull number, I would appreciate it. Also, if you have discovered any particular weak areas (especially considering the 40 yr age!) that you could share with me or any meaningful upgrades you have been able to make. This was a pretty stripped down model ... no frills. Thanks and good sailing!

Lance
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Subject: Splinter questions


Author:
Ian Thompson
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Date Posted: Monday, December 24, 12:46:01pm
I sail a 1971 Splinter, a 21 footer designed by Van de Stadt and very similar to a Pandora. I'm trying to find some info and wondered if anyone could help.

1. Does anyone have a PYS rating for a Splinter
2. Does anyone have a copy of the original owners manual - I know there was one.
3. Is there any kind of owners group or even a fleet that regularly races these now

Any help appreciated; I can't find anything at on on the net.

Ian Thompson
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Subject: pushpit


Author:
norman gledhill
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Date Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 02:27:33pm
Hi All,
If all goes well I should be a proud owner of a Pandora
Int. soon. Sail No. K637 her name is Pilgrims Lady registered in Teignmouth Devon 1974. For some reason its
got no pushpit. Has anybody got any ideas where I could
get one or have one made if possible. Does anybody know
the history of this boat?
Email me as soon pos or phone me on 01637875137.
Yours Bravehead.
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Subject: pandora mk 1 keel fastenings


Author:
Chris, Jersey
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 24, 09:22:38pm
Considering buying a mk 1 available here, in very poor condition, but reckon i can cope with refurbishment.
cant find tops of keel bolts? hull seems flexible at turn of bilge to keel if I rock it when dried out. no sign of cracking or movement at transverse floor /hull joins. is this a problem?
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Subject: wanted pandora international genoa


Author:
john tabor
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 10, 01:21:42pm

wanted pandora international furling genoa must be in good condition
Subject: Ridgeway Marine


Author:
John
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Date Posted: Tuesday, October 16, 07:34:48am
Hi, we publish a local magazine in Kessingland, a place where I understand Ridgeway Marine used to be? Please couls anyone email me with any information about Ridgeway Marine so that we can run an article on them. I currently own a Pegasus - I under stand the next model on from the Pandora? john@kessinglandlocal.co.uk
Many Thanks

John
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Subject: HOLT outer boom end


Author:
Richard Harper
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Date Posted: Wednesday, October 10, 09:33:05am
Does anyone know where I can buy a Holt boom end casting (outer end)?
the internal dimensions of the boom are 28mm * 68mm
There seems to be loads for selden & proctor on the internet but none for holt.
Subject: Rudder


Author:
Paul Redford
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 10:00:29am
Does anybody know how to remove the rudder pin.
I belive it is held by a pin but will all the paint ant anti fouling cant find it.
I have found 4 stainless steel screws but these dont appear to hold the pin.
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Subject: Mk1 Rudder


Author:
Roy Warden
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 09:23:57pm
Mk1 Rudder for sale £60.00 buyer collects from kent. Nearly new, excellent, Iroko/epoxy construction by Ridgeway marine.
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Subject: Outboard in aft locker


Author:
Ian Shepherd
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Date Posted: Monday, September 17, 08:53:35pm
I want to replace the old 5HP 2stoke Yamaha with a suitable new 4 stroke but am having some difficulty in finding one which will fit into the 480mm dia aft locker.Actually dropping through the hole is tricky but this can be acheived. Then however there is insufficient room for it to tip flat so the cover can be replaced. I would prefer to maintain the 5HP but may need to compromise on power to find one to fit. Any advice would be gratefully received. I prefer to avoid fitting an exterior outboard bracket as this would interfere with tiller.
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Subject: mast for mk1. & we in burry port bristol ch.


Author:
steven humphrey
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Date Posted: Wednesday, August 22, 09:59:55am
hi there need to renew running gear and mast with it's rigging! any help with a good place to buy one from and any pit falls to look out for will help, and any tips on running sail rigging back to the cockpit will be helpful too.
we sail off burry port harbour north gower.
your steve
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Subject: Swing Keel Pivot bolt


Author:
Derek Skinner
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Date Posted: Sunday, August 12, 10:09:03pm
Has anyone out there changed a swing keel pivot bolt? If so how bigger a job is it and what size is the bolt?
Many thanks
Derek
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Subject: SL400 Sea toilet wanted


Author:
John Hughes
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Date Posted: Sunday, August 12, 12:30:36pm
I am after an SL400 sea toilet, working or not, for my Pandora international.
Thanks
John
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Subject: Sail Modification


Author:
Hammy Hamilton
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Date Posted: Friday, August 10, 11:40:04am
Thanks for that advice Tim,
Over here I'm being quoted 15 -17 Euro per metre for modifiying the luff and putting UV strip on the leech. Also being told that modifications are never as good as a custom made sail.
Hammy
Subject: pandora ,outboard h/p


Author:
rich
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Date Posted: Friday, August 03, 07:18:00pm
hi could any one help ,i have a pandora 700,and i am looking to change the small outboard 5hp,to something bigger for cruising the bristol channel,i have been looking at a 8hp fourstroke,merc ,longshaft ,would this be enough power against the tides ,or should i go bigger,does anyone know what the max, size outboard would fit in the well ,any advice would be great,and what do other owners have on there pandoras ,thanks rich
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Subject: Pandora Int. Sheet winch


Author:
John Hughes
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Date Posted: Friday, July 27, 08:27:12am
Hi, I have just bought a Pandora International circa 1974 which is missing its port Tufnel sheet winch, anyone know who made these winches and if I can get a replacement or what modern substitute would fit.
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Subject: Fin or Swing keel?


Author:
Charlie Smith
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Date Posted: Saturday, July 21, 07:25:55am
Hi All,

Well, I am looking at buying a Pandora, either an International, or a 700.......What in you opinion does the Swing Keel version sail like? Say in comparison with the Fin Keeled one. Life would be simpler if I could find a Bilge Keeler, but I can't at the moment, and general concenus seems to be that they are a lot slower than either the Fin version or the Swing Keeler???

Not into racing, but I don't mind being a bit of a hooligan now and again, and chucking them on their ear! :-)

Cheers for now, Charlie.
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Subject: Removeal of main hatch


Author:
Derek Skinner (Anyone tried removal on a 700?)
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 19, 09:42:35pm
I want to clean and refurbish our main hatch cover. Has anyone got a clue for me?
Many thanks
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Subject: Further to my previous???


Author:
Charlie Smith
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Date Posted: Monday, July 16, 04:47:07pm
Hi all,

Forgot to ask, is there anything I should be aware of (common faults etc) with the swing keeled 700, ie. pivot pin or anything? Also, will the fin keeled version stand up on beaching legs? just for scrubbing off and such...

Best to all, Charlie.
Subject: Overhauling Winches


Author:
Christopher Bell
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Date Posted: Monday, July 16, 02:53:35am
Does anyone have a procedure for overhauling winches (from memory Lewmar) on an International?
I have tried undoing the screw on top and....nothing!

Many thanks in advance.

Delia & Chris 'Swift Lady'
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Subject: Pandora crew offer


Author:
Chris Reed
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Date Posted: Saturday, July 07, 11:37:22am
Hi PO's

I am looking at progressing from small dinghy class sailing to something more substantial.
To this end I'm trying to get some experience initially as crew to enable me to get a taste of whether I'm likely to be able to manage something larger. I like the feedback the pandora range has received in the mags and by the owners and I like the design,so, can anyone help. I'm willing to travel reasonable distance at my cost of course. I'm based in Herts near Stevenage. If you have any questions please email at g1rpo@btinternet.com
Subject: New Owner


Author:
Pete Smith
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 05, 09:57:56pm
Hi all,

I have just become the new owner of a Pandora Mk1, known as Jumbuck, sail No P260. Just thought I'd make myself known on this forum board.

This weekend will see myself and crew moving her from her present location of Solva to her new mooring in Pembroke Dock. Here's hoping all goes well. I might even do a post event report early next week.
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Subject: Bent Fin Keel


Author:
alec moir
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 01, 11:28:51pm
considering buying a pandora int. boat has bent keel, located dunoon scotland.
inquiring if any potential problems
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Subject: headsail reefing


Author:
Tony Caulfield
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Date Posted: Monday, June 25, 11:13:42am
Hi,I want to buy headsail reefing for my Pandora MK 1.Would Plastimo 406s do? any one recommend something that would work and keep cost down.
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Subject: pandora 700 spray hood


Author:
rich
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Date Posted: Friday, June 22, 10:54:22pm
hi does anyone know where i can get a sprayhood for a pandora 700,the boat does not have one and it would need to be made from scratch ,or does some one know who sells them for a 700 ready made ,any help would be great,i live in cardiff ,thanks rich
Subject: toilet


Author:
Chris Nicholl
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Date Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 10:56:28am
I am now the proud owner of a fin keel mk1 Pandora.Can anyone tell me what toilet was fitted to this model?.All the modern toilets seem to be to tall.
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Subject: Desperate need of a mast heel for a Pandora 700 ?


Author:
Steve Brown
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Date Posted: Friday, June 15, 07:20:56pm
Hi There - we are desperately trying to seek out a mast heel- we broke the last one as we were trying to restep the mast after wintering - I thinks its Cast Iron, for a Pandora 700 Does anyone have any ideas as to where to find one - all help greatly appreciated.
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Subject: Pegasus Yachts


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: Monday, June 11, 09:15:43pm
Hi Everyone.

I thought I should put a note on here about Pegasus Yachts who are based just outside Lowestoft in Suffolk. Some of you guys may have dealt with them as they are the suppliers of Pandora specific bits such as 700 rudder skegs and much more.

It has come to my attention that the site which they operate from, including a marina and storage facility, is being sold off by its owners.

This will put Pegasus Yachts out of business and mean that many of the original bits and bobs will be lost, although this isnt nearly as important as the loss to the Coooper family who currently run Pegasus Yachts.

This might not seem like a particularly important issue to many of us, but when put into context, more than half a dozen boatyards on the same broad have been closed and redeveloped over the past few decades and Pegasus Marina is the only remaining one, and it may soon be gone.

There is a website which explains the issue much better than I have just done.

Please read and help. www.savepegasus.blogspot.com

Cheers Tim
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Subject: Twin keels


Author:
Dave Tricker
[Edit]
Date Posted: Monday, June 04, 09:08:37pm
Hello, I sail Pandora Mk1 Number 335. It has twin keels. Some time in the past, rods have been fixed between the trailing edge of each keel and the hull. I've been told that these are here for no structural reasons but to prevent mooring lines fouling and catching on the swept back part of the keels. I understand that it has been known for boats to have been sunk on moorings due to such fouling.
I have two questions.
1) has anyone experienced such fouling of mooring lines or heard of it? My mooring has quite heavy chain on it all the way up to the mooring bouy and find it difficult to see tide/wind conditions that would case the chain to get wraped round the back of the keels. It may be more possible with a rope riser.
2) What is the effect on performance caused by the addition of these rods?

Any thoughts, information or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Subject: Pandora with Bent Keel


Author:
Ian
[Edit]
Date Posted: Sunday, June 03, 01:39:28pm
Does this boat have sail no 537? Saw a Pandora on Holy Loch yesterday..

Ian
Subject: Forward Hatch Gasket


Author:
Chris Geankoplis
[Edit]
Date Posted: Friday, June 01, 07:11:23am
I'm returning to Greece to fix up my Son's Pandora International (1976). He has sailed it all over the eastern Med and it is currently on the hard in Prevesa just south of Corfu. He mentioned that the gasket for the forward hatch was gone and he shipped a good deal of water in some rough seas just before putting it up for the season. Can anyone advise me where I might get the gasket or a possible substitute? I am in the U.S. at the moment and will be leaving for Italy and thence to the boat. Short notice, but I just found out about the problem. I plan to sail it around the northern Ionian and then over to Italy, up the east coast and then NE across the Adriatic to Croatia. Being a teacher I'v got 6 weeks to do the trip in. Having sailed it to Turkey and throughout the Agean it should be an easy voyage. Are there any Pandoras I might meet in the areas I'll be crusing?

Thanks,

Chris G
Subject: Inboard Engine


Author:
Trevor. PandaMonium
[Edit]
Date Posted: Friday, June 01, 07:00:04am
Hi, has anyone fitted an inboard engine into a Pandora International? I am interested in replacing my outboard, and wondered if anybody else has done it.

Thanks

Trevor
PandaMonium HYC
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Subject: Pandora 365


Author:
Boyes
[Edit]
Date Posted: Wednesday, May 30, 08:22:06pm
Hi there, i have just bought a pandora sail number 365 i would like to know how old the yacht is and can i purchase a handbook on the specification of the yacht somewhere if anyone knows.

Thank you
John
Subject: Pandora Respray


Author:
Laura
[Edit]
Date Posted: Monday, May 21, 10:39:35am
Hello,

We recently purchased a Pandora 700 and are considering a respray next winter. The boat still has the original gelcoat.

Does anyone have experience of respraying a Pandora?

Any advice would be welcome.

Thank you.
Subject: Prelude Owners Association


Author:
Haris
[Edit]
Date Posted: Monday, May 07, 06:54:12pm
We would like to inform everyone that the Prelude Owners Association website is now up and running.
The Prelude was designed by Ian Proctor and built by Rydgeway Marine.
The url is: www.prelude-owners.info
We would invite all Prelude owners to join in.
Membership is free
Subject: Dutch Classic Yacht Regatta


Author:
F. Slob
[Edit]
Date Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 03:56:07pm
Hello you all there!!

I'm currently the proud owner of a Trotter Pandora, and I believe it's one of the oldest still afloat.
It is the first version, which is 'converted' from the randmeer.
This year I was allowed to compete in the Dutch Classic Yacht Regatte along with al types of old wooden and steel yachts. This year was the first time GRP boats were allowed to compete, as long as the mould is from before 1965.
In my class (cruisers up to 28 ft I was overall winner and in the overall cruiser claas (up to 40? ft) I finished second!!!
Now to the point of this message, I would like to invite the owners of the oldet version of the Trotter Pandora (the Mk1 is already to old...) to come and join me at the next Dutch Classic Yacht Regatta in 2007!!

I hope there will be some response, and for more information check www.dcyr.nl

Greatings,

Frans Slob
Globe_Trotti rules the waves

www.globetrotti.nl
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Subject: Water Tank on Mk. 1 " Mhairi"


Author:
Paul Williams
[Edit]
Date Posted: Monday, April 09, 10:57:31am
Hi, my Mark. 1 Pandora, Mhairi, has been fitted with a long flexi. water tank running under the floorboard, however this has now split. Any advice as to the best option here, any where I can obtain the most practical one, I am not keen on a similar arrangement to the one now fitted as this makes keeping the bilges dry a difficult task.
Thanks for any advice here,
Paul Williams
Subject: new Pandora owner


Author:
tony barnes
[Edit]
Date Posted: Friday, March 30, 05:50:16am
Hi, I've just acquired a bilge keeled Pandora International number 563, renamed Electra by the previous owner but formerly called Julie, does anybody out there know anything about her history or her approximate age? regards tony
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Subject: international drop keel handicap


Author:
john tabor
[Edit]
Date Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 08:57:02pm

HI
can anyone tell me the true handicap of a vanderstad international drop keel pandora
Subject: Missing centreplate of Pandora 700 international


Author:
Atle Skutvik
[Edit]
Date Posted: Sunday, March 11, 10:07:59pm
Hello
I am a Norwegian (hopefully lucky) owner of a Pandora 700 with centreplate(from 1976)
I have recently bought this boat.
The boat has lost the centreplate.
Anyone have a drawing or sketch of the centreplate with measurements, so I cold get one made for me here in Norway?
Anyone know where I could get new sails – and at witch price?
Any Norwegian owners of Pandora?

Best regards from Atle Skutvik
Subject: Fittings


Author:
Tony
[Edit]
Date Posted: Sunday, March 04, 08:58:11pm
Can anyone tell me please, the neatest method of adding, for example, an extra cleat or other fitting which involves bolting through and encountering headlining. Is this also drilled for nut access and then the hole masked in some way, say with plastic capping bits? I know there are ferrous bolts with sprung captive nuts so that only the outside layer needs bored but I am not sure this is available in s/s.
Subject: Bolt Cappings


Author:
Mark
[Edit]
Date Posted: Sunday, March 04, 07:51:25pm
Can anyone tell me where I can get the white plastic, bolt cappings for the inside of a Pandora Mk1 (to cover nut/bolt heads that hold rubbing strake on)

Please help!

Mark
Subject: pandora MK1 tonic


Author:
tony caulfield
[Edit]
Date Posted: Friday, February 23, 07:26:53pm
just bought tonic MK1 pandora fin keel 3f3 and would like to say hi to other owners.i live in Bangor N.Ireland and look forward to sailing her this summer.I would be interested in any one selling a trailer also sail cover and dodgers.
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Subject: Pandora Stem head fitting


Author:
Paul
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Date Posted: Friday, February 23, 02:15:12pm
Does anybody know where I may be able to get a stem head fitting for Pandora 700 existing aluminium fitting is badly worn around the forestay attachment
Subject: Keels


Author:
Cameron
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Date Posted: Monday, February 19, 10:11:05am
Have just seen Tim's bilge keel Pandora for sale on Boats and Outboards. They look very deep for bilge keels and presumably sail very well.

Just for interests sake can anyone comment on the relative performance of drop keel ve bilge keel pandoras? I have the former in 700 guise.

Cheers
Cameron
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Subject: Auto Helm Fitting


Author:
Cameron
[Edit]
Date Posted: Thursday, February 15, 01:52:59pm
Have bought an auto helm (older model autohelm 1000 off ebay) and had a quick look at how to fit it. As the tiller seems very high compared to the cockpit seat this might not be straight forward.

Can anyone give me a steer?
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Subject: Replacing windows on Pandora International


Author:
Heather McDowell
[Edit]
Date Posted: Monday, February 12, 09:50:11am
I am replacing the perspex in the windows on my Pandora International as they are crazed and leak. I know they have been replaced before, in 6mm Perspex, is this the correct thickness? Also the frames were fastenend to the cabin, but the fastenenings did not pass through the perspex, is this how they should be fitted?
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Subject: Pandora International: refit


Author:
Andrew Knight
[Edit]
Date Posted: Friday, February 09, 10:06:49pm
For those that are interested in how a Pandora International can be refitted for cruising, I have posted some information and pictures covering the (ongoing) refit to Arabella at http://yachtarabella.blogspot.com/index.html
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Subject: Pandora 684


Author:
Tim
[Edit]
Date Posted: Friday, February 09, 10:02:18pm
Hi All,

I have done some work to the boat, thought you all might like to see how she looks, go to www.abersochboatyardservices.co.uk and follow the link on the homepage to my pandora page.

And for those of you in the middle of a winter pandy project just remember it could be worse, it could be mine!!

Happy Pandoodling!
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Subject: roller reefing


Author:
Tony
[Edit]
Date Posted: Thursday, February 01, 07:48:00pm
I decided to make my own foresail reefing gear, using a v pulley at the bottom end of the unit and ball raced swivel at top. Not wanting to compromise the forestay on our International, the system was installed by anchoring the unit 200 mil aft of the forestay base by putting a shackle fixing through the deck, fixed to a ss plate,- easily got at by opening the anchor locker hatch. From then on it was easy, clipped the tack onto the pulley and hoisted away on the halyard. It furls swiftly and neatly, the beauty of the system being using 10 metres of 6mm line in a continuous loop means you can stop at any point and cleat-off.
Went out today for a trial and all was well.
I also will try using the forestay to hank on another genny for downwinding, instead of wrestling with a spinnaker.
Subject: Ian Proctor Prelude


Author:
Mark Hudson
[Edit]
Date Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 10:28:34pm
I own a Rydgeway Marine Prelude and am trying to find out if there is an owners association or anywhere i can find a spec sheet or original brochure for the boat. I am not having much luck at the moment but would appreciate any info or links that anyone could provide.
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Subject: Pandora International as a First Cruiser?


Author:
Roger
[Edit]
Date Posted: Sunday, January 28, 01:55:45pm
Hi,
I'm looking to buy my first sailing cruiser this year. I'm in North Wales and there is a large fleet of Pandoras in Abersoch. I was wondering if a Pandora could the right choice. Would a boat this size be able to comfortably cross to Ireland, or navigate around Anglesey? How many people could realistically be accomodated for a weekend cruise (staying at marinas)? How much cabin headroom is there? Are there any weaknesses to especially look out for when buying this type of yacht?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Roger
Subject: backstay


Author:
Tony
[Edit]
Date Posted: Monday, January 15, 08:59:41pm
Down to the mooring today, to scrub the decks of seagull poo and bits of crab etc and whilst taking a well earned rest leaning on broom handle, I noticed for the first time that the backstay is well offcentre. Obviously this is to avoid interfering with steering. Be grateful to know if this is normal, and if it's okay like that. My neighbour on his Leisure 23 has a forked backstay. Seems like a good idea. I would be grateful for comments. Thanks, Tony
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Subject: Outboard motor well


Author:
Chris Thompson
[Edit]
Date Posted: Monday, January 08, 04:05:06pm
Would appreciate advice on how best to remove the outboard blank from the outboard well in the aft locker in my Pandora, sail no. 247
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Subject: Mast raising


Author:
Tony
[Edit]
Date Posted: Friday, December 22, 08:06:13pm
Preceded by much nail-biting, the mast on Swansong was raised today whilst on its mooring, and it all went so well that I thought I'd jot down the system which was somewhat based on a pbo article(Mar.2003 page 60) A couple of 3m lengths of galv, tubing 30mm diam were fixed at the bottom end with shackles to the foremost deck rings. At the apex end, a through bolt joined them together, and I made up a four-one with two pairs of pulley blocks. The mast was hanging over the stern, horizontally but supported by a sort of home-made boom crutch which sat down into the outboard well and was about two metres in length from the base of the well to the top. This enabled the point of balance to be just kept inboard whilst the mast was pushed aft to locate its heel in its brackets and the locating pin shoved through. The galvy triangle was lifted vertical, and the forestay locked onto the through bolt.(The backstay was already fixed but slack) One pair of double blocks was shackled to the apex and the other pair down at the bow roller. Some twenty metres of 6mm line was threaded through the blocks and led aft to the port winch.
Now, the mast could have been lifted at this stage but there was a danger of a sideways topple, so did two things to help avoid this.(a) the aft lowers were attached, but of course were too slack until the mast was almost vertical. (b)tied a horizontal spinnaker pole across the cabin top centred on the mast base brackets, and two guys from each end taken up to that little hoop on the mast where the halyards clip.
Anyway, that was that, and a firm smooth operation of the winch brought the whole thing up with no probs. It was quite easy to unclip the forestay and fix it to its normal location. There was no wind which helped enormously.
Subject: Wiring diagram


Author:
Justin
[Edit]
Date Posted: Thursday, December 21, 01:41:17pm
I want to rewire my Pandora Mark 1. Could anyone provide a wiring diagram. I want to include the following over time:
Tricolour
Nav lights at deck level
VHF with antennae
Sailmate outboard (with charger)
Log/depth
Interior lights
Solar panel
Shore power possibly?
CD/Cassette Player

Can anyone help

Justin
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Subject: Old type Echo Sounder


Author:
Hammy Hamilton
[Edit]
Date Posted: Friday, December 15, 05:17:26pm
I'm trying to replace the old style echo sounder on my Pandora Int. ( 683) It's the type which just has a dial giving the depth. I think it actually works, but the figures on the dial are unreadable. Any idea where I'd get one?
Thanks
Hammy
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Subject: Short or Long shaft engine


Author:
Les Long
[Edit]
Date Posted: Wednesday, December 06, 01:34:07pm
I would appreciate some advise. I have just purchased a Pandora International without an engine. I have been reading all of the very useful advise on the forum regarding the choice of engine size. However I am a little unsure of the length od shaft required. Should I go for a Long or short shaft. The engine will be cockpit mounted (Not on a bracket.
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Subject: Pandora International For Sale


Author:
Mike Walker
[Edit]
Date Posted: Monday, December 04, 09:47:59pm
Fin Keel number 527 built 1974
Maintained to sailing condition and regularly used. Family circumstances force sale.

Plastimo roller reefing. 2002 Mariner 4 hp with charging. Autopilot. Fish-finder. Inflatable tender (solid transom takes main engine). Recent mainsail. Main and kedge anchors with 25m of chain.

Surveyed 2001 not aware of new problems.

Currently ashore Mariners Farm river Medway. Will go onto swinging mooring in Medway for the season.
Asking £3000.
Subject: boom


Author:
Tony
[Edit]
Date Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 07:40:11pm
Looking v. closely at the photographs in the original International brochure, the boom appears to have an extra bit just where it encounters the mast. I say 'extra' because I don't have it, and if something is missing it would explain a lot about setting up properly about which I've a few doubts. Thanks in advance, Tony
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Subject: for sale


Author:
steve lewis
[Edit]
Date Posted: Sunday, November 26, 11:53:17am
Pandora 700 "Aries" Bult 1983 Hull No. 856 Twin keel. Roller headsail. Main and Genoa new 2002 Mariner 6hp. 4 Stroke New 2003. New cushion covers. GPS Autohelm 800. Lying Saundersfoot. £ 5 500. In superb condition

Contact Steve Lewis 01834843492 Evenings
Subject: FOR SALE PANDORA 7.00 1978 V.G.C


Author:
RICHARD
[Edit]
Date Posted: Saturday, November 25, 05:59:55pm
HI
I HAVE A FRIEND WHO DUE TO HEALTH REASONS HAS RELUCTANTLY DECIDED TO CALL IT A DAY AND PACK UP SAILING.
SHE HAS FOR SALE A (1978) PANDORA 7.00 LIFTING KEEL YACHT IN OUTSTANING CONDITIION AND WELL EQUIPED CURRANTLY LYING AT OULTON BROAD (SUFFOLK)IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED AND REQUIRES MORE INFORMATION PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT (jo-rich@carltoncolville17.orangehome.co.uk) AND I WILL PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH HER.
REGARDS
Subject: Bowed bulkhead


Author:
Noel
[Edit]
Date Posted: Friday, November 24, 06:00:02am
I have a Pandora International and have noticed that my starboard bulkhead has a bow in it; I assume it is created by too much compression. It’s about an inch off the vertical at the worst point.

I slackened off the rigging to reduce the compression and the bow is still there. There is no sigh of crazing or stress on the cabin top above the bulkhead or around the foot of the mast.

It does not seem easy to replace the bulkhead as it appears that it was put in place before the cabin top is put on and won’t come out without surgery and then how do you fit a new one?

Has anybody else seen this or replaced a bulkhead?
Any thoughts are most welcome as fixing this is my number one winter job, but I’m currently scratching my head.

Noel.
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Subject: mast probs.


Author:
Tony
[Edit]
Date Posted: Wednesday, November 01, 09:07:52pm
Many thanks to Chris and Delia, Tim, and John for the helpful insights into the lowers and caps. I did indeed find the same problem with the caps and so have pop-rivetted a stainless steel collar around this area too. I noticed that at both there is a little damage where the cables emerge and chew the opening at the bottom of the hole. To hopefully overcome this, strips of 1mm thick ss were cut to the same width as the slot, and about 75mm long; these were coated with chromatic paste, folded in half and squeezed in the vice. When the ends were then slightly opened with a screwdriver, they could be clipped onto the bottom of each slot and tapped down until they fit snugly and securely like streamlined clothes pegs. I also used this method at the top of the slots,- rather an afterthought, but found they sit secured under the new collars.
As an aside, it was a gorgeous day on the mooring,cool breeze but warm sun and shirtsleeves (no shirt, just the sleeves) and there on the foreshore was a little egret, wading about under the heronry.
Thank you all again. I cant promise not to find more problems! All the best, Tony
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