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Subject: International window frames and rubber seal., and CQR anchor.


Author:
Neil Lambton (Mistral)
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Date Posted: Saturday, January 17, 05:02:20pm
The window frames on my 73 International are made of fibreglass and some of them are getting pretty tatty (cracked and chipped) and really need replacing. Are they still available from Pegasus yachts, or does anybody know where i can get stainless steel ones made at areasonable price?. Also does anybody know where i can get the rubber seals from?. Happy sailing everybody (or should that be winter maintainance?).
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Subject: Pandora 700 For Sale


Author:
Chris Brown
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Date Posted: Sunday, January 04, 10:34:50pm
Pandora 700 "Jess" for sale

1975, bilge keel, new furling genoa (2003), rudder recently serviced & new skeg (2003), Simrad dsc VHF (2003), Simrad autopilot (2003), Yamaha 9.9hp 4-stroke outboard (1998), trailer.

Great shape, a nice boat.

We are reluctantly selling as our new baby, due soon, will absorb all leisure time!

Lying Woolverstone, Suffolk

For more details please see: http://tamibrown.com/pandora/

Chris Brown
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Please remove the numbers from my email address to reply
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Subject: Furling Jib for a Mark 1


Author:
Peter Rigby
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Date Posted: Friday, January 02, 08:44:00pm
I have a Mark 1 Pandora. I am proposing to fit a furling jib and will be going to the boat show to see what is available. Can any one help me by telling me what is good and what is not in the way of equipment? Are there any pitfalls you can stop me falling into any help will be appreciated.

As an aside I fitted a Tiller Tamer this season and can recommend them highly even if they are a bit expensive.

Thank in advance Peter
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Subject: Replacing Stays


Author:
Chris While
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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 30, 11:01:26pm
Hi all,

it's been interesting reading all the articles here and getting new ideas of things I might like to try (like pumping out my water tank!!) with my wonderful MkI. I brought in June last year. Now is the time all maintanence tasks come about after a fantastic summers sailing I have 2 jobs that I must do and several I would like to, any ideas/sore thumbs/biter experience/advice would be welcome!

1) Replace the rigging. I've noticed that the tensioners are getting toward their limit - is it at all practical to fit your own rigging, or is it best left to the experts?
2) Fit a toilet. I purchased a second-hand toilet at a jumble (I know, horrible thought - but I have a strong belly!) and she's coming out of the water this week so it sould be doable!

"Nice to haves"
3) straighten a couple of stanchions.
4) Fit the radio and aerial "properly"

Seriously, any advice will be welcome!

If you are in the area of Walton on the Naze, look out for us, we are the little red pan!

Thanks

Chris
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Subject: Add some extra sail


Author:
Matthew Plokker
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Date Posted: Monday, December 22, 06:37:37pm
Dear pandor sailors
I'm a pandora sailor from the Netherlands. After buying we changed the mast for that of a J22. The boat sails very powerfull especially downwind.

This winter I'm racing at Hellevoetsluis in the Netherlands. The boat sails quite well and at the moment were leading the series with three victories!(13 competitors)

The boat is built in 1969 and fitted out by Van de Stadt.
The new sail area's are Main 11m^2, Jib 10m^2 and spi 33m^2

If you're interested send me a mail and I will reply some photos.
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Subject: hatch


Author:
Jimbo
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Date Posted: Monday, December 22, 09:07:05am
I find it difficult getting in & out of the cabin i was wondering if anyone has made a sliding hatch in the coach roof ??

jimbo
Subject: Keelbolts


Author:
Laurence Monkhouse
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Date Posted: Saturday, December 20, 09:35:15pm
I own Panache - No 496, bilge keeled International.

When I bought her the Surveyor advised me to draw a keel bolt when she was next on shore to check its condition.

The heads are glassed over. Obviously this can br ground away, but what is underneath and what is the best way to get a bolt out?
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Subject: Splinter Yacht - Help


Author:
Adam Cronin
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Date Posted: Friday, December 19, 07:47:32pm
I'm currently thinking about buying a Van de Stadt Splinter 21 or 22 (not sure which is correct). Does anybody have any info on this boat? I cant find anything on the web. Any info. would be greatly appreciated.

Adam in Ireland
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Subject: Keel bolts


Author:
Jim
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Date Posted: Thursday, December 18, 11:31:14am
I have a trotter pandora built by Grimsby Plastics (so quite old). Can anyone give me any idea of the likely condition of the keel bolts, as I haven't inspected them and it has been playing on my mind. She has a drop-keel, so what is the easiest way of getting at the bolts?
Subject: Reducings the fleet


Author:
Bill Stacey
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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 11:31:08pm
Hi, I am selling up so the Drascombe Lugger has to go along with the Pandora 700 Blue Tack, all on the for sale page but now reduced and I have a page where they can be viewed,
http://groups.msn.com/bosunslocker
when you take off the cost of the trailer and the sails and engine the boat is nearly going for nothing!!
Subject: Mast stanchion on Mk1


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: Monday, December 01, 05:48:26pm
I own a Rydgeway Marine 1970 Mk1 Pandora which has not got (and never has had) a post inside the cabin to support the mast compression loads. I have noticed that other Pandoras, including one older one, have such a post. Is it essential and would it be a good idea to fit one? There are two small mahogany shelf brackets which transfer loads from the coach-roof to the hull sides in line with the mast and, presumably, there is something substantial between the headlining and the mast step. I would be grateful for any views and general information regarding this aspect of a Pandora's construction. I would prefer not to have to fit one as it would seriously interfere with using the already difficult-to-use heads.

Thanks in advance,

Tim
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Subject: CQR anchor


Author:
Neil Lambton (Mistral).
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 30, 11:57:51am
What size CQR anchor (weight and size number?), is correct to fit into the anchor well of the International as the shaft on my Danforth anchor is too long to fit through the hatch opening, and i'd rather not cut away any of the appetuer surrounding flange for fear of weakening the stemhead area.
Subject: Empty Spaces Under Cockpit Seats


Author:
Colin Burrough
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Date Posted: Wednesday, November 19, 02:18:13pm
I have recently acquired my first yacht, a Pandora 700 (sail no 743) and have sailed it a few times only since I put it in the water 6 weeks ago.
I found a loose fitting on the upper edge of the port side cockpit and on investigation found it was a small bolt that was loose and it would not tighten – the nut underneath was spinning round!
I removed the galley and found a piece of shaped plywood athwart the space under the portside cockpit seat. On unscrewing this I found a large space, completely empty. I managed to solve the problem of the spinning nut on my loose deck fitting but it got me thinking about this large empty space under the seat and also the space behind the cockpit and in front of the sloping transom. What are these spaces intended for and has anybody been able to make use of them for ready storage? It is possible to create a small locker?If so, how do you go about getting access? What sorts of fittings are needed to make the access watertight?
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Subject: Can you help? Van De Stadt 25?


Author:
Michael Corbett
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Date Posted: Monday, November 17, 11:57:58pm
I've found what is advertised as a Van De Stadt 25ft cruiser-racer of 1974 vintage. It has fin (broad at the base) and (I think) skeg rudder and seems to use an outboard in a well. The deckhouse is a single smooth curve except for the square fore-hatch. It appears to have a deck-stepped mast with a compression post.

I've not heard of a 'Stadt 25. I thought it might be a Spirit 24 but having found a small picture of one, this doesn't seem to be the case.

I would be very grateful if anyone could provide any information on this boat.

Thanks

Michael
Subject: Outboard for Pandora


Author:
brian farrow
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 15, 01:59:00pm
Hi,
I have a Pandora International I acquired this summmer moored on the Norfolk Broads. It is a fin keel and I have a Yamaha 8HP outboard rigged in the well. It is about 15 years old but still works very well and fires up first time. I have also been told the hull speed is about 5 knots but I can confirm that I have a maximum speed of just over 5 knots with the outboard at max revs. The outboard also trickle charges the battery. I do not know whether the outboard is a long shaft but I suspect it is.
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Subject: Interior layout / chart table / heads etc


Author:
phil robinson
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 09, 06:53:29pm
I have just acquired what I am pretty sure is a Mk1 - sail num 266, transom rudder, sliding hatch, window in the front, mast suppport. Very happy with it, but thinking of tackling a few things:
It has NOTHING in the interior. Just the fibreglass moulding. I _need_ somewhere to put a chart and I'm debating whether to install some kind of loo - though I can't really see where - cooker, sink etc.

Any suggestions - specifically, there is talk here of SL400, but where the **&^ would it go?

Also, seeems to me it might be a good idea to accept that this is not a 4 berth yacht, install a hinging hatch lid on one side of the cockpit and block it it off internally by extending the companionway bulkhead to form an externally accessible locker.

This would mean that chart table or cooker or something could go right up to the companionway bulkhead without losing all the storage behind it. Anyone tried this?
Cheers, Phil Robinson.
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Subject: Pandora MK1


Author:
Dave Peart
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 01, 02:26:24pm
I am saving to buy a MK1 Pandora. It is a 'no frills'boat i.e. no sat nav, or electrical equipment. It has been used regularly up to last year when the present owner stopped using it. The wooden rails on the roof have been damaged by a wood beetle and need replacing and i dont think the sails are all that good. I think it is a sound boat which sails but needs some work on to bring it up to todays standards. I am thinking of offering £900-£1000 for the boat, which doesnt have a road trailer. Is this a reasonable offer?
A worry that i have is that although i have sailed my GP14 alot and got my rya 1 and 2 and also done some weekends round Anglesey on a 43 fter, i will find it hard transfering to a larger boat, e.g moorings, navigating. Is this something that i need to worry about or not? Also what is the pandora like to sail because 4-5 knots sounds quite slow compared to my GP (i think), what is like as far as accomodation goes? Does it fit four people in, with luggage? What is it like to launch off a trailer using a tractor because all the pics show them being craned in, and can it be towed by a 2 litre SAAB 9000?
Is it agood all round boat because it will be used more for cruising around the Dee esturary and hopefully in the summer travelling round to Anglesey or maybe even Abersoch, which is a place i love and have been to alot, but as dee is the nearest big area of water i think i would moor it there. I may also have a go at racing when i get used to the boat, but find i prefer cruising around.
What is the average cost every year to keep it?
Thanks dave.
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Subject: Internal water tank


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: Sunday, October 26, 11:08:15am
The built-in water tank on my MK1 Pandora leaks (I suspect a previous owner allowed it to freeze in winter). I have a beautiful teak slatted floor in the cockpit with an opening for the water tank filler so I would like to be able to retain the original filler and use the tank. Has anyone had similar problems and found a soluion that permits the use of the original tank space and the original filler? Is there a supplier of flexible tanks who already has the details of a Pandora-sized tank? Any advice would be most welcome.

Thanks in advance, Tim
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Subject: rudder


Author:
Jimbo
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Date Posted: Wednesday, October 22, 11:23:55am
i have been looking at a few pix of pandoras & i have noticed my rudder looks different . has anybody got the measurments of a mk1 builge keel rudder or know where i could get hold of a set of plans ???

Jimbo
Subject: Pandora 700, Keel bolts


Author:
Stein Håvard Bergstad
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Date Posted: Sunday, October 19, 09:51:05pm
I bought my Pandora 700 (fin keel) this summer. We stated incipient osmosis and keel bolts in bad condition. I have put my Pandora on shore and have planned to repair the hull and change the keel bolts.
How are the bolts connected to the keel? Are they welded, screwed into the keel, or are they going through so that it is possible to change them without removing the keel?
I have planned to remove the keel. Is it something I should be aware of during this operation?
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Subject: Fixing kit to cabin top


Author:
Ieuan
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Date Posted: Thursday, October 09, 08:01:22pm
I'm thinking of rigging my international to bring the halyards back to the cockpit. Does anybody have any ideas on how to fix the relevant kit to the cabin top without having to drill holes all over the interior moulding. Have many of you out there rigged a pandora like this? Any guidance will be much appreciated.

Thanks

Ieuan
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Subject: A NON RACER.


Author:
NEIL LAMBTON
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Date Posted: Monday, October 06, 12:19:34am
I've noticed a lot of people talking about their racing and results of the season, and what improvements they've made to make the boat faster during a race. Well, to be honest i've never had any interrest in yacht racing, though when we've been out on the water, we have had the situation arrise where you end sailing in the company of another boat and you try and beat them, but that's another thing. All the offialdom of rules, having to get everything absolutely spot-on every time, it just does'nt appeal one bit. What appeals to me is not worrying how much drag is caused by towing a dingy and leaving the outboard in its well, and not getting the sails set perfectly. I just enjoy the simple pleasures of sailing,- using the elements, enjoying the movement of the water, feeling the wind in your face, and if the wind is very light and you are drifting along rather than apace, just the sheer luxury of the peace and quiet. The thought of going across a winning line feeling disappointed and thinking if we did that quicker or we should have done that rather than this, well you can keep it, i love the stress free side of sailing, sailing as a form of relaxation and enjoyment, not as a stressful competative scenario. Each to his or her own, mine is the peace and quiet, so enjoy your racing folks, i prefer to enjoy mine by watching it done on two wheels with a screaming engine between them. Happy sailing Pandorers, Neil Lambton.
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Subject: Roller Furling Systems


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: Sunday, October 05, 12:22:14pm
Hi,

Can anyone give me some advise or outline their experience of fitting a roller reefing foresail system. Id particularly appreciate manufacturers and models and comments re single/double groove andquality of construction etc.

Thanking you

Tim
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Subject: WINTER LAY-UP AND UP-KEEP


Author:
Neil Lambton.
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Date Posted: Sunday, October 05, 11:55:47am
Well it's getting to that time of year when we are looking to take our trusty little ships out of the water to make a few improvements, a few repairs, and just make them pretty again. But for some of us the winter lay-up started in 95 and due to plenty of time but a lack of money or plenty of money but a lack of time, she never got a wet boottom again. But now as a result of determination, she is almost ready to go back in, so this winter will not be a winter of getting cold stuggling with stuck bolts and frozen fingers. Yes there are still many things that could be done, but many things can be done when she is sitting at her mooring, which gives you a good excuse to go down on a beautiful sunny day when the tide is in the wrong direction. All that needs to be done now is to give her a wash down and anti-foul her bottom prior to getting it wet again, empty all the rubish out of her and mount the wood spacers on the inboard transom. a minor repair to the outboard locker and mount the bilge pump. 2 weekends work at most, but i will still go down to her and just sit on her and have a cup of tea while just looking at her waiting for the big day to arrive. Happy sailing till lift out everybody. Neil (Mistral).
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Subject: this years racing


Author:
Jimbo
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Date Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 08:09:53pm
This is my first year sailing since i dingy sailed as a child & did not think i would be at all interested in racing but i have found myself entering at every opertunity.
there are no other pandora`s in our club & wondered what other class of boat is on par with a pandora ie leisure 23 s ,
when i asked what i should do to improve performance i was told my two cases of cider wern`t realy needed (just goes to show what he knew) carring my heavy outboard wasnt good , I should run it up the beach & scrub her down monthly,Buy a spinnaker (only good bit of advice so far) oh yes & the best of all saw of my bilge keels & bolt on a fin
well i am taking her out next week & i am incorprating some of the ideas from the racing set up on the web site i am eyeing up a spinnaker & lightning my load i will still carry the cider in smaller quantities & think i will keep the bilge keels ,heres hoping for a faster season next year
if anyone has any other gems please post here or email me i think i am becoming obsesed :)

jimbo
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Subject: BOAT SET UP


Author:
Big Steve
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 08:52:11pm
Before the start of the season I renewed my standing rigging and thought I had my International set up quite well. My mid season results were mediocre but thought it was me. Then I read an article on the 'Owen Sails' website about sail trim, which started me experimenting. Consequently I tightened up the back stay, moved the genoa cars forward slightly and didn't sheet in so tight on the genoa. On the main I used the sheet to get a better sail shape(I previously had a tendency to over-tighten the sheet) and used the traveller to get the pressure right. I also paid a lot more attention to the 'feel' of the helm and set the sails so the boat almost sailed herself on a beat when the tiller was let go.
There was a distinct increase in boat speed particularly in the light to medium winds and she seemed to point better. My results in the latter part of the season were much better and all I have to do now is work on the tactics.
Big Steve
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Subject: Pandora Honours at Polaris Regatta


Author:
Big Steve
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 08:39:54pm
My trusty Pandora International beat off some stiff opposition (several Loch Longs) at the Polaris Regatta, Holy Loch Sailing Club to win our class. In a four race series it was down to the last race. Just before the start my crew got a riding turn on the winch and we couldn't tack towards the line. By the time he'd cleared it we were 40 secs behind and playing catch up. By the last mark we were almost level but below the boat I was chasing and was worried I might not lay the line. Luckily the wind filled in and was able to overtake below him and pinch the line by 10secs. I'm still high a week later
Big Steve (not used to winning)
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Subject: Welsh Open


Author:
Wil Williams
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Date Posted: Thursday, September 18, 09:52:43pm
Wil and Allan would like thank everybody involved with the Welsh Open last week, we had a superb weeks sailing. Wil apoligise's again! for not attending the prize giving but had to go to a cousins 18th at Manana and unfortunatly went on after the meal to sample one or two Tequila's or was three or four or more likely five or six, anyway could not even remeber the way home let alone find his way to the SCYC afterwards! Anyway thats his story! thanks again to everbody involved we will be back again with hopefully some more Pandoras from Pwllheli.
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Subject: Forehatch mk 1 pandora


Author:
Maurice
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Date Posted: Thursday, September 18, 09:18:21pm
Have just lost forehatch over the side-dont ask!!!
Any ideas where to buy /salvage or make--DIY?
Also are tape drive sails allowed in the Pandora Class?
Thanks in advance
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Subject: Norfolk Broads Pandora's


Author:
Neil Lambton (Mistral)
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Date Posted: Thursday, September 18, 06:47:58am
My brother and i have just returned from an excellent holiday on the Norfolk Broads on a cabin cruiser and visited Oulton Broad on the wednesday evening and i counted about 8 Pandoras (mk1s, internationals and 700s) on Oulton broad alone, most of which were based outside the Ridgeway marine yard on the north bank and some of which may even have been up for sale, and several others around other parts of the Broads, and wondered if there are any registered with the association?. Next year we intend another return visit when i intend to spread the word about the web site. Maybe the web builders could make up a poster which could be displayed and downloaded or printed enabling members to put out flyers notifying other owners about this valueable site, what do others think?. Happy sailing all, Neil Lambton.
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Subject: Width of bilge keel


Author:
Richard Seaby
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Date Posted: Monday, September 15, 11:03:38am
Hi all

Does anyone know the width the keel plates on a trailer need to ba a part for a mk1 bilge keeler? I have just got a trailer and they are set at 4 ft. I could move them if needed but would prefer to do it before the boat is hanging over the trailer on a crane!

Thanks for any help

Richard
Subject: Forehatch catches


Author:
Bob Duncan
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Date Posted: Thursday, September 11, 09:53:54am
Hi All

I am fixing up my International ('Aida', though just until I come up with a new name for her - apparently previously known as 'Marqutta') and one of my challenges is the foredeck / forehatch. The hatch catches are such that I might use them to close my daughter's toybox, but to close tight and secure a hatch in such an exposed position they leave a lot to be desired.
I cannot find anywhere a screw closing hatch catch, similar to those that you find on any porthole, though I have seen several of this sort on old boats' forehatches. Does anyone have any recommendation as to what I might use? I want to be able to have a range of closure without remounting and also to exert a fair force, so as to have a decent chance of keeping the watter oot. Manufacturer or supplier details would be very handy. I still hope to get the boat over to Dalgety Bay for the winter layup (currently at Port Edgar) but time is running out...

Thanks
Bob Duncan
PS - All you people wanting a 700, there's one for sale on the Forth, see the Bosun's Locker for details.
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Subject: pandora 700 rudder


Author:
fiona
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Date Posted: Thursday, September 04, 09:51:55pm
Hi

My Pandora 700's 'Mythology' has lost her rudder. The skeg still appears to be there. I have contacted several boat makers and have been told to have one made would cost between £800 - £1000. Does any one own a 700 that they could get the dimensions/sketch of the rudder or know of any 700's thats are rotting. Any infomation would be greatly appreciated as the sailing season is passing by rapidly!

Thanks
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Subject: Split backstay.


Author:
Neil Lambton (Mistral)
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Date Posted: Thursday, September 04, 09:42:51pm
The backstay on my 73 International is mounted to starboard of the tiller (transom hung rudder) which i believe is standard, has anybody modified their backstays to incoperate a split system with a tensioner, and is there any real benefit in doing this.
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Subject: Prelude Assossiation


Author:
Hanspeter Bortoluzzi
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Date Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 08:24:13pm
Hi all
got a link to your assossiation. I'm an owner of a ridgeway prelude sailboat 1975. Just like to find any links to a group of Prelude owners. Do you know any contacts related to the small sister of Pandora. Thanks a lot. Kind regards.HP
Subject: trailer plans wanted


Author:
Brendan Douglas
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Date Posted: Wednesday, August 27, 10:56:59am
I need trailer plans or even a photograph or two,in order
to get my beloved pandora back to her natural element this
coming summer.
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Subject: Centre plate removal


Author:
Noel
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Date Posted: Sunday, August 24, 10:15:05pm
Hi, I’ve just bought a Pandora International with a centre plate.
I would like to remove the plate and inspect the bolt on which it pivots.
I’m surprised that I only see two nuts on the starboard side of the keel and no sign of corresponding bolt heads on the port side?
Can anyone explain this and offer advice on centre plate removal?
Thanks in advance,
Noel.
Subject: Outboard Motor


Author:
Paul Robertson
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Date Posted: Saturday, August 23, 10:56:07pm
can anyone tell me the optimum HP for an outboard on a MK1.
I have a 4HP which is on the way out and other Pandoras seem to have outboards ranging from 4 -10 HP.
I have been told the maximum hull speed is 5 knots but I don't have a log.
Thanks
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Subject: inboard engine - choice & installation tips


Author:
Delia & Chris Bell
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Date Posted: Friday, August 22, 04:59:40pm
Hi all,

We own a Ridgeway 1974 Pandora (Fin)- K457; currently on the hard @ Benfleet YC. We plan to re-commission for the 2004 season and are considering to retrofit a diesel inboard. Any suggestions on make/model & self installation advice? We are keeping our options open & would consider another outboard - any ideas on maker/power etc offering best reliability would also be appreciated.

Delia & Chris
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Subject: Pandora 700, just about to buy one.


Author:
Gary Mills
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Date Posted: Friday, August 22, 04:30:36pm
I may be about to buy a Pandora 700, can anybody tell me what to look out for.
Cheers
Gary
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Subject: Pegasus 800


Author:
John Giles
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Date Posted: Friday, August 22, 11:30:36am
Being the happy owner of a Pegasus 800, Rydgeway Marine bulit, I have been collecting info on this marque. Is the Pandora related to the Pegasus design wise is there a "development" relationship.
Subject: Drumbeat - Pandora International


Author:
Gary Mills
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Date Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 10:43:47am
Dear All
We use to own two Pandora Internationals, one called Drumbeat, had a red hull and white top, and one called Southern Lightning, blue hull and white top.
Has anyboby come across these, if so please let me know.
cheers
Gary
Subject: Holy Loch pandoras


Author:
Big Steve
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Date Posted: Monday, August 18, 05:00:17pm
A grey Pandora International has recently appeared in Holy Loch marina and I understand the owners are from Derbyshire. I would just like to say hello to the owners. From the owner of the red and white International at the other end of the pontoon.
Big Steve
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Subject: mast lowering


Author:
dave parker
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Date Posted: Thursday, August 14, 11:59:02am
I have recently bought a 700 and need to lower the mast to fix the wind indicator on top.
Is there any special procedure or problems to look out for, as I dont want to cause damage.

Dave Parker
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Subject: Register of members.


Author:
Neil Lambton
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Date Posted: Sunday, August 03, 08:40:56pm
Does anybody agree that it would be a benefit to members of the association to have a register of members and their location/sailing area so that we can get in touch and maybe even arrange sailing trips, races, even offer tips, advice etc on practical mods/improbements, and if neccessary, help in getting eachothers boats ready for the season?. Such a system would help those who may not have enough time or the finances or practical experience in boat maintainace. My International will be based on the Medway and sailed on the Medway and Thames estuary and maybe a few east coast excursions if time and work allows, and it would be great fun to meet up or have a gentlemans race with other owners in the same area. Happy sailing people.
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Subject: spinnaker


Author:
Jimbo
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 31, 11:14:50am
If any one has a spinnaker for a mk 1 for sale i need one to save the embarresment of being beaten in a club race by old gaffers in light winds
Subject: Trailers for a pandora


Author:
Richard Seaby
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 31, 10:21:26am
Hi all

I need to get my hands on a cheap trailer to keep my pandora in the garden over winter. I only live 1 mile from the yard so it does not need to be top flight.

I really want to buy 2nd hand if I can - the question is what size of trailer will I need - what measurements do I need to look at for example.

What is the distance between the axle and the tow hitch?
What is the space between the bilge supports?
Is there anything else I need to consider?

PS has anyone had any luck contacting the pandora association? I keep trying and keep getting no response.

Thanks for any help that you give

Richard
Subject: Gauge Note for Pandora 700


Author:
Francine
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Date Posted: Saturday, July 26, 04:51:54pm
Hello!
We're living in France and bought a Ridgeway Pandora 700 in Switzerland. Now that we want to get a number for it, the administration wants a gauge note of the boat which is not required in Switzerland.
Can anybody tell us what the gauge note of this boat is and how we can get a certificate?
We'll restaurate the baot, so any comments on this topic is well appreciated as well!

Thanks to all and have a nice week-end.
Cheers from sunny and warm France
Francine
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Subject: boat info


Author:
Jimbo
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 20, 09:28:25pm
hello again guys
I was wondering if anyone had any info on my boat there is little to go on, no sail number the makers plaque says kessingland it sailed out of Arelsford Essex with the name "stand your ground" & i believe it sailed from rowhedge essex with the name "manatee" just wondered if anyone has prieviously owned her or seen her before ( unlikly i know but ya never know) she is now named Zena & we sail from Harwich sailing club

clutching at straws Jimbo
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Subject: How to install an outboard in the well


Author:
Nick Geankoplis
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Date Posted: Monday, July 14, 10:30:40am
I currently have a 1976 Pandora here in Greece that I sailed over from Turkey (that's another story). It had a nice 8hp Yanmar for the last 22 years but it packed up this last week. The previous owner convereted the outboard motor well into a lazerett by glassing in the bottom. My problem is that I cannot afford (poor student type)a new inboard and am opting for an outboard. I plan to open up the well again but haven't a clue on the proper configuration and measurements for the brackets or whatever is needed to properly mount the motor. Is the motor fixed or stearable? Any help, suggestions, diagrams/fotos would be great. Time is of the essence as I MUST leave for Italy and Croatia soon. Thanks so much!

Nick
thrwbig@hotmail.com
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Subject: Inboard/outboards


Author:
Richard Seaby
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Date Posted: Friday, July 11, 10:51:25am
At the moment I have my outboard on the back of my boat - the sea check guy said that it is safer to have it in the rear compartment - I have no experience of this and was after getting any ones views on this. He said it would keep driving better in rough conditions.

I keep Fidget (a mark 1) at Keyhaven in among the marshes. At low speed steering is difficult as I have no flow over the rudder. So I was tempted to change the outboard to the inboard position for that reason anyway.

On a completely different note - I seem unable to email the guy about updating the ownership list - I have tried three or for times over the last 3 months and had no reply at all - does the email address work?

Thanks for any advice

Richard
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Subject: Vintage Voyager Outboard Motor circa 1954


Author:
Millie Banks
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Date Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 06:02:52pm
Does anyone have any information on Voyager outboards from this company? They were producing motors in Miniapolis, MN under the Voyager name. I have a 5HP motor that I am refurbishing and need a schematic of the motro, carb & hookups etc. or even a web address would be great. Thanks!
Subject: blackwater pandoras


Author:
Gordon
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Date Posted: Friday, July 04, 01:46:07pm
Hi there are a few of us in the blackwater why don't we get together it seems silly to just wave and carry on a Saterday evening at Osea could be a good time. What do you think.
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Subject: Rudder lubrication on a 700


Author:
Chris
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Date Posted: Friday, July 04, 01:45:03pm
Has anyone any experience with lubricating the rudder stock of a Pandora 700? My boat is out of the water at present, and the tiller takes quite a bit of effort to move from side to side - it is not smooth as I would have expected. I noticed this last year also when out of the water, but sailing last year I didn't notice it as a problem.

How smooth are other 700 rudders? Is there any way to lubricate the rudder stock? After reading the articles on pandora.org.uk I am worried about taking it apart in case I make a mistake and lose the rudder next time I am out!

Thanks in advance,

Chris Brown

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Subject: Stability and buoyancy


Author:
Jonathan Roberts
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 03, 02:32:08am
The the new codes on boat stability make me wonder where the Pandora fits in all this. What built in bouyancy if any does a Pandora have? Has anybody experienced a 'knock down' in a Pandora? What type of bilge pump have people fitted? These boats don't have them fitted as standard.
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Subject: Trotter Backstay


Author:
Jim
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Date Posted: Sunday, June 22, 04:56:25pm
My early Trotter does not have a backstay for the mast, just the shrouds and a forestay. Looking at photos of the later Pandoras, they all seem to be equipped with a backstay. Does anyone know if the early Trotters were supposed to have a backstay or not? Surely there should be one?
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Subject: boat speed


Author:
Frode Heien
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Date Posted: Sunday, June 22, 01:34:48am
I have been the owner of a 700 for two years. I have recently startet racing her in som overnight races on the Oslofjord. In the races we use a handicap-system.

questions:
1) How is the 700 compared to other boats with aproximaly the same handicap when it coms to different wind directions?

2) Is there anything aboat trimming sails and rig that I should be aware in order to make the boatspeed increase?

If any readers would be willing to share their experiences with me on the issue of racing the Pandora 700 I would be gratefull!
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Subject: Message Board


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: Saturday, June 21, 11:43:02am
Is the message board down, I keep enterring "post message" box every time I enter? gathe rits the druids at play on this special day?


Tim
Subject: Spreaders for mast


Author:
Jim
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Date Posted: Friday, June 20, 01:51:14pm
The mast on my trotter is missing it's spreaders. The mast is made by Sparlight. Would anyone know where I can get the correct spreaders from, as at the moment all I have is two pieces of old, galvanised tubing; which are really not up to the job!
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Subject: Simpson Lawrence SL400 head


Author:
Jeremy
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Date Posted: Sunday, June 15, 10:15:34pm
I'm trying to get hold of a new seat assembly for the Simpson Lawrence SL400 fitted on my Pandora 700. Does anyone have any idea where I might be able to get one? Thanks for any advice.
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Subject: Sinnaker setup


Author:
Jonathan Roberts
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Date Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 12:43:00am
I have a spinnaker for my 700 and I need advice on how to rig it. Does anybody have a diagram of what goes where? My spinnaker has a bag about fifteen foot long that has a large wired D shaped mouth at one end tapering to a small hole at the other. This presuambly gets tied to the guard rails.?

When the spinnaker is used does the large furling genoa need to be put away. You may gather I have'nt any experience of using a spinnaker. What do I need to know?
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Subject: where to buy sails


Author:
Jimbo
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Date Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 12:16:33am
does anyone know where you can buy sails for a mk1 of the shelf or has anyone had some made ?
any idea of cost ??
ta
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Subject: Spinnaker or Genoa when reaching


Author:
Big Steve
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Date Posted: Tuesday, June 10, 11:08:20pm
Last week my usual crew couldn't make it for our race night and so I 'pressed ganged' my 15yr old son as crew. He can sail but has no experience with the spinnaker.

During the race on the down wind legs the wind never went further aft than a broad reach and so having an inexperienced crew, opted to leave the 150% genoa up and the spinnaker in the bag.

Well shipmates I was surprised at how well we did compared to the opposition with their spinnakers up. We stayed with them and even passed one or two. We also gained ground by not having to muck about hoisting and stowing the chute. Also when the wind did shift forward all the spinnakers collapsed and we didn't.

The lesson I learned is not to be too quick to stick up the chute. When rounding the windward mark get the boat saling as fast as you can on the genoa, then look at the wind and make the judgement whether to stick it up. We often loose more than we gain during the excercise of putting up the chute. We sail around the cans in a loch and some of our legs can be short and we need a lot of practice with the chute. So in future on a broad reach the genoa stays up.

Big Steve
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Subject: outboard


Author:
Jimbo
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Date Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 11:38:49pm
i took my new toy out for a spin sunday & she performed rather well exept on every starboard tack i was dragging the damn outboard (which came with the boat) in the water, i had the bracket up & the motor tilted . the motor i have is a suzuki 4 horse long shaft if it wern`t so hevy i`d lift it off but it will only end up with my £240 perscription reactorlight sunglasses :( ( on the bottom that is ), i was just wondering what outboard others use or system of raising it ??

thanks in advance jimbo
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Subject: Cheapskate traveller set up


Author:
Big Steve
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Date Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 10:40:19am
To improve my Internationals racing performance I was going to fit a traveller on the main sheet during the winter lay up. That was until I found out just how expensive the whole set could cost, a minimum of £200. So being a resourceful type of chappie I searched for a cheaper alternative and found one.

A piece of rope!

One end is tied as an eye around the all main sheets running between the deck fitting and the boom. The other end is tied as another eye which can be easily hooked over the windward genoa winch (which will be not in use). This has the effect of pulling the boom onto the centreline. This not only opens the slot between the genoa and the main (which can stop it backwinding in medium airs) but it also allows you to slacken off the main slightly to put a bit of twist into the main. The improvement in performance on a beat is noticeable.

Just before tacking unhook the eye from the winch then hook it over the winch on the other side when the tack is complete.

There are some bemused sailors in our club wondering where I got this sudden increase in speed. The good news is, it only costs £2.

Big Steve
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Subject: i have just bought a used "pandora 22" looking for a little info


Author:
Jimbo
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Date Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 09:31:50pm
i have just bought a used "pandora 22" looking for a little info i am told it was built in 1971 & it has profiled builge keels , does any one have any idea if it is a mark 1 or international ?? . thanks in advance jimbo
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Subject: Cocomo


Author:
Nilgün Altınkurt
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Date Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 08:10:44am
Hello,

I'm searching for a spezial yacht which I see in summer 2000 in the bay of Marmaris Turkey.

It was 25 meters long, also can be used as an sailing-boat.
It was called Cocomo, was white and dark blue or black, I don't remember exactly. But I want to find o fotograf of this boat and if possible the technical drawing.

Thank you.

Bye...
Nilgün Altınkurt
Subject: repair of rigging over tensioning


Author:
Graham Poulloin
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Date Posted: Monday, May 12, 07:03:31pm
I have recently acquired a Pandora that I sold in 1992 called Wuff Lin. One or both of the two other owners over tensioned the rigging and have caused some bending around the front of the cabin where it takes the load. An experienced marine fitter has installed a stanchion to transfer the load down to the cabin in front of the toilet area and it works well.

Can anyone advise me on how to effect a better repair?

I thought of refitting the two smaller forward wooden bulkheads so that they support the deck?
Subject: pandora sails required


Author:
Plank Christian
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Date Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 11:23:50am
living in Bavaria/Germany it is not easy to get spares for my pandora international (ridgeway, original-sail no. 494!) built 1974.
i`m sailing on the lake starnberg in the south of munich - next the alps. therefore my unusual question:
is there anybody who want`s to sell his old genoa (140%) and main-sail because he has bought a new set (racing ambition`s?).

my e-mail : plankchr@aol.com

yours faithfully

bavarian ;-)) wishes

christian

(size-age-price-transportcosts)
Subject: Wanted Pandora International


Author:
G Mills
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Date Posted: Friday, May 02, 04:44:43pm
Wanted
Pandora International
prefer bilge keel but not essential
in any condition as long as price is right
Subject: TROTTER MK 1. SAILS AND MAINSHEET.


Author:
STEVE CROWTHER
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Date Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 01:44:18am
HI,I OWN A TROTTER MK1 [TRIPLE KEEL,SLIDING HATCH.] BUILT BY GRIMSBY MARINE PLASTICS,SAIL NUMBER UNKNOWN,NAMED PICCOLO. HAVING NO ORIGIONAL SAILS,COULD ANYONE TELL ME THEIR DIMENSIONS? AND ALSO THE MAINSHEET LAYOUT? RE. LEAKING FOREHATCH, TRY CLINGFILM! [COVER HOLE,CLOSE HATCH OVER]I TRIED IT ON ANOTHER BOAT AND IT WORKED!! THANKS, STEVE.
Subject: Keel Primer (need help)


Author:
Big Steve
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Date Posted: Tuesday, April 22, 07:52:44pm
It seems the more you read the less you know. My newly aquired International had a lot of fouling on the keel when she came out the water for the winter lay up. I've cleaned off the fouling and started to buff away the rust only to discover the make up of my keel is a steel centre with a lead outer and the fouling had occured at points where the lead had gone and the steel was exposed.

The problem I have is which primer to use?

All the International Paint info says use an 'etching primer' for lead and Procon for steel. Should I patch prime using both or just use one or the other or what? My head hurts.

Has anyone else had this conflict of primers and what did you do about it.

Big Steve
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Subject: about rudgeway marine


Author:
sebastien
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Date Posted: Monday, April 21, 03:01:22pm
hello I'm french, i bought a PRELUDE built by rydgeway marine ltd, designed by ian proctor and i looking for information about this boat.
can you help me.
my email
sebastienmotte@voila.fr
Subject: SPLINTER RIGGING


Author:
LORIEN
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Date Posted: Saturday, April 19, 07:37:37pm
Sort of butting in, but I am a vg van de stadt (Splinter). Does anyone know if my lower mast stay should go fore or aft? Does the main sail stop far short of the end of the boom? I have a roller reefing system, with the foot raised so far off the deck it the track doesn't help.I keep having to take the sheet straight to the winch, not through the car. I have sail no 105, second built in Ireland, I believe.
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Subject: Lifting Keel Pandora International


Author:
Peter Maggs
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Date Posted: Thursday, April 17, 09:50:07pm
I have a lifting keel Pandora International kept on a drying mooring on the Blackwater. The keel gets jammed up with mud etc every time it has dried. I am concerned that repetitive hammering through the poke-hole to free it could weaken the keel-bolt fixings in the hull. A friend has suggested a "nappy"; ie a piece of stout cloth slid underneath fixed with ropes fore and aft to prevent ingress of mud.

Does anyone have experience of a cure for this problem? Is the nappy idea likely to work? Does anyone have any other ideas?
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Subject: Essex Pandoras


Author:
Gordon Lawrence
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Date Posted: Thursday, April 10, 03:38:36pm
If any other Essex Pandoras are in the water by easter it could be a good opertunity to meetup. Ill be anchored off of Osea island on the saturday night If anyone interested Email me or over easter on VHF "TRUANT" call sign VQHV7
Subject: engine well


Author:
Jeremy
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Date Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 11:58:21pm
I'm looking to replace the engine well plug (for want of a better term) on my Pandora 700, i.e. the square chunk that bolts into the outboard well when the engine is not in use. Does anyone have any ideas where I might be able to get hold of one?
Cheers.
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Subject: antifouling (and those little white metal caps for the galley stove...)


Author:
Jeremy
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Date Posted: Sunday, March 23, 10:22:57pm
Fitting out is really taking off here and I need two pieces of advice if anyone can help, please...
1. Antifouling. What's the best kind to use for a