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Date Posted: 04:32:14 08/07/03 Thu
Author: Ray
Subject: Re: The Noahide movement
In reply to: QUITTHER 's message, "The Noahide movement" on 10:17:25 09/09/02 Mon

>Ray, I know nothing, so far, about the Noahide
>movement, and no doubt you will explain something
>about it soon, including its lifestyle and
>whereabouts..

The Noahide Movement is no movement at all. It is an invention of the Lubavitcher sect of Hassidic Kabbalistic Judaism. If the Lubavitchers did not invest so much effort and money into promoting it the Noahide movement would disappear immediately.

>..... As I understand it, there were very many changes
>made after Jesus was crucified, and in order for the
>new, still Jewish, group to get stronger they admitted
>into the "Kingdom of God" non-Jews who didn't have to
>obey the many Jewish laws, but only the much easier
>Noah's laws (which I have read).

You seem confused.

First, Jesus himself told His disciples to "go and teach all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (the trinity). He also confirmed this commandment through the vision to Peter concerning the fact that what He had cleansed was no longer unclean. His salvation was always intended for all. So this was no change.

Second, it was never the disciples who ever admitted anyone into the "kingdom of God". That entry cannot be controlled by humans. God calls people to come and he supplies the grace to allow them to enter by their own free will.

Third, once again, there is no mention anywhere in the Bible of the Noahide Laws. They were never required of any disciple, Jew or Gentile. Nor was the Mosaic Law ever required of any disciple, Jew or Gentile.

The rules were the same for everyone. Repent and be baptized for the remission of sin, Accept Christ as the sovereign lord of your life, love God and others, things like that.

>These people brought
>with them their various mythologies that eventually
>were incorporated into later versions of Christianity,
>with the teachings of Jesus no longer being
>binding on members, and with the entrance
>requirements to membership of the group made very much
>easier.

Mythologies did indeed try to invade Christianity. The concision tried to bring the entire bondage of the Judaic Tribal mythology into the church. But they were rejected, along with many others. It's true that over the centuries many heresies did enter in and cause a lot of trouble. No denomination can claim to be free of such influences. Nonetheless God himself still watches over His sheep and even in the midst of it all His power is sufficient to guide us into truth. If our faith is in an organization it will fail. But if we trust Him, He will never fail.

>..... Probably the followers of Noah, if any, want(ed)
>much more freedom than Jesus' original
>teachings/version of Christianity required, and I am
>looking forward to your explanations.

The followers of Noah?????????
Find that anywhere in the Bible. Then I'll answer.

Ray

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  • Re: The Noahide movement -- Gary Schooley, 21:45:55 08/10/03 Sun
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