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Subject: FOODFOODFOODFOODFOOD Author: katy [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 00:39:18 12/14/04 Tue 'Tis the time of year to eat! You know hibernation season. I knew a guy who used to say he put on his winter suit because he always added so much weight in the winter. I am trying not to add weight so I'm just going to TALK about food and not eat so much of it...except chocolate cake, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm had some for breakfast today. So much for good intentions - hah! So anyway reading Beth's last post including a comment about snow ice cream made me think of several dishes we used to have a long time ago like ice cream made from goats milk, and I remember Mom making doughtnuts a few times, and they were REAAAALLLLY good. I think it was a whole lot of work though cause we didn't have them very many times. I remember the first time I had Brown bread thinking it wasn't very good but somehow after awhile I really liked it. Something I never liked was breaded tomatoes. Sounds like they would be breaded and fried but noooo...they were stewed tomatoes cooked with pieces of white bread and I think a little sugar. Who thinks of things like that!! I never liked beans and weiners either but I think Joe still really likes them. Remember hot dogs cooked in the oven with a little piece of cheese stuck in the side of the dog and wrapped around with bacon and also barbecued hot dogs, which is hot dogs smothered in barbecue sauce and cooked in the oven 'cause we never did have a grill. We had lots of fires for roasting hot dogs though, which is really the only decent way to cook them. Then there were the vegetables. I remember having beets once. That was all. I think we were a disappointment to Mom sometimes because we wouldn't eat such things. We never had squash or zucchini or eggplant but we had lima beans, and brussels sprouts and creamed corn which looks as if it's corn that's been regurgitated. I remember Phil really liked it. I hated it. And Phil didn't like potatoes but he always took some when we had mashed potatoes and gravy because we all built forts out of them and he and John would get all elaborate with theirs. I don't remember Mom and Dad ever telling us to not make forts with out food. That alone qualifies them as exemplary parents in my book. I am going to have to start posting earlier. It's way past my bedtime and my brain is cooked.- hah - more foodisms. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: FOODFOODFOODFOODFOOD Author: Haley [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:09:43 12/14/04 Tue that reminds me, what are we doing for Christmas dinner this year? We're going to be healthier, right? Have a big salad to snack on instead of people just eating desserts all day long, etc? I really don't feel like cooking as much as I did on Thanksgiving, instead of buying lots of extra groceries, I might just use that money to get some really good chinese food or something... I don't know. I was at a Christmas party last night where they had a salad with nuts, sliced grapes, spiced apples, mini orange slices, crazins, and a bunch of other stuff. It didn't need dressing, it had enough juices from the fruit in it. It was amazing. But if we could just make some squash or something I'd be happy. But what about you all, don't you care about eating a little healthier than just having mashed potatoes, meat, and brownies and stuff all day long until you're sick? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: FOODFOODFOODFOODFOOD Author: Mom [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:42:53 12/14/04 Tue Lots of good ideas for Christmas. . .I'm posting on this one cause it was on top and I don't have time to post on all of them this morning. My computer is being bad, so I'm on Joe's computer and I have to get ready to go to Joplin so John can fix my car - it's not being bad, just a little unruly. Seriously, these are all wonderful ideas and it would be nice if we could get some comments on Haley's ideas. Also this one - The BIRTHDAY CAKE that I've made forever came about because it was one of the first "one-bowl" cakes from Betty Crocker. I don't know why I got it from that brand name, because I would have thought it would have been on a Crisco can or a flour sack. However, when Dad and I were first married, making a cake was more involved. The flour had to be sifted three times, and the shortening and sugar had to be creamed and then the eggs added and stirred. . . a lot. I was strong then, cause everything I made had to be stirred a lot and I didn't have a mixer. Grandpa Zuvie gave me my first mixer when we were living at Uncas. Anyway, I found this recipe for a "one-bowl" chocolate cake, made it, and we all liked it. This would have been me and Dad that liked it - we only had John and Katy then, Phil was probably on the way, and they liked anything sweet and chocolate. And, FYI, Grandpa Zuvie always gave us money for Christmas. He always gave us $50 for me and Dad and $50 for you kids. Much later on he raised it to $75 for us and $75 for you kids. I always tried to make sure you all knew some of the toys were from him, but you all probably didn't pay much attention - you were too busy opening presents! Now when I cook a turkey, it seems so easy. But the year I was pregnant with Phil was the first Thanksgiving that we were going to be on our own. I bought a large roasting chicken, but I had NO idea how to prepare it before roasting it. I remember getting it out Thanksgiving morning and just sort of looking at, completely lost as to what to do with it. Well, I knew it had to cook in the oven, but how to get it ready for that. . .not a clue. Then someone called us and said that Joe and Emma were in town, over at her mother's house, so we put the chicken back in the fridge and went to see them. Wound up being asked to eat dinner with them and somewhere in that day, I asked Emma how to fix a roasting chicken. I don't know where I learned to make dressing, maybe from Emma. Probably. Haley, I'd be glad to cook some vegie thing for you for Christmas. Give me some suggestions as to what you'd like. I'm interested in hearing more on this subject from all of you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: FOODFOODFOODFOODFOOD Author: Beth [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:48:26 12/14/04 Tue My favorite meals when I was little were the hamburgers we had every Saturday, homemade pizza (maybe once or twice a year), weenie roasts . . . and I liked chow mein because it was different and had those little toasty noodle things. I absolutely hate lima beans and have horrible memories of mom forcing me to eat them (child abuse), along with meatloaf . . . ick. I can tolerate meatloaf now, but lima beans are evil. I'm just kidding about the abuse, mom. You know I did the same thing to my kids - just not lima beans. I think it was a rare and wonderful thing that mom made everything from scratch, that we all sat down and ate together, and that there was always so much food (seemed like a lot to me anyway). Some of my best memories are of sitting around the table with everyone. And Joe laughing so hard he spewed mashed potatoes . . . that makes me smile every time I think of it. I just realized that Dad wasn't a very good cook. His eggs were always loose and runny, steaks were usually pretty tough . . . and one week when mom was gone Dad and I made something together - I think there was gravy involved, and it was sort of . . . well, not like mom's. He tried hard though. He did make good stir-fry. Later favorites of mine were beef stroganoff (Katy's recipe, I believe?), ham and apples, and mom's potato soup. And of course pizza. I would like to write a cookbook for people like me, who need quick, easy recipes that have less than 10 ingredients, use one container and a microwave. Or an oven or a frying pan, I guess. They would probably all be horribly unhealthy and decadent. I cook my hot dogs in bacon grease and eat them with bacon and cheese. My potato soup uses two sticks of butter and two cups of milk . . . and just about everything is better with either cheese, cream cheese, or cool whip. Or butter. Or chocolate syrup. Oh yeah. I would only include the "stuff" recipe for family and family adoptees. Haley has brazenly ignored the rule of not sharing that with outsiders and should be flogged. Just a little. I'm sorry Haley; here you are trying to get everyone to eat healthier and I'm talking about hot dogs in bacon grease. I'll put a salad recipe in there too. I could go on, but I'm getting hungry now. =) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: FOODFOODFOODFOODFOOD Author: michael [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:59:09 12/22/04 Wed I didn't like much when I was young and I was probably a misery to Mom in my refusal to eat alot of things. My horizons have broadened slightly since then but I'm still no more adventerous in my choices. Edie has managed to get me to eat a lot of stuff I never thought I'd try. Fish and asparagus come to mind as a couple of things that would have taken a gun pointed at my head to get me to eat in the past. Edie managed to find recipes that have changed my mind. Having had occasion to eat the food of some excellent restaruants I'd say Edie would rank as a world class chef if she was a professional in the biz. She makes a shrimp dish (shrimp fra diavolo) that has made shrimp one of my favorite foods and I've always had a real dislike of seafood of any kind. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: FOODFOODFOODFOODFOOD Author: Beth [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:46:33 12/22/04 Wed EWWWWWW shrimp is so gross! It's a whole little animal, ick. I don't care if you cover it with chocolate, cream cheese and add cool whip on top, I'm not eating it. I only eat things that are unrecognizable. Mike, if you recall, you were one of the reasons I refused to eat meatloaf, and I also used to only drink whatever you drank (Pepsi, Coke, whatever). Why in the world did I do that when you tortured me so? Must be because every now and then, if I was not as annoying as usual, you'd let me borrow one of your books. Criminy, what happened to make me such a warped little kid? I do like more things now than I did when I was a kid. I can eat asparagus and even spinach if it's in something (not the slimy stuff). I don't like seafood at all though (except for grilled bass). And I've tried and tried to tolerate mushrooms but I can't. They're evil and vile and gross and icky. Olives are icky too. And lima beans are totally disgusting. Beets too. And sweet potatoes. And cottage cheese . . . gah . . . and yogurt. But hey, I eat tomatoes now, that should count for something. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: FOODFOODFOODFOODFOOD Author: Mom [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:52:11 12/24/04 Fri I give up on you types that don't like stuff. I like everything. . . .except cottage cheese and escargot and probably other stuff I can't think of right now. So, Mike, why don't you send us some of Edie's recipes that are your favorites and include how she came by the recipe, etc. And I know there were things you did like, though only pizza comes to mind, but you surely have some stories regarding food or dinnertime stories that you'd like to see included in the cookbook. This was going to be, I think, a Christmas gift to everyone but we didn't start in time. Maybe next year, if we start now. Want to take this opportunity to say to Mike and Edie that your presents for me and the family arrived safely, and were inspired! Thank you sooooo much. We're gathering at Jody's tomorrow to hang out, feast, and tear up her house. Just kidding Jody. But to all youse guys not coming tomorrow - John and Mike and families, Merry Christmas and I love you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: FOODFOODFOODFOODFOOD Author: Mom [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:53:19 12/24/04 Fri I give up on you types that don't like stuff. I like everything. . . .except cottage cheese and escargot and probably other stuff I can't think of right now. So, Mike, why don't you send us some of Edie's recipes that are your favorites and include how she came by the recipe, etc. And I know there were things you did like, though only pizza comes to mind, but you surely have some stories regarding food or dinnertime stories that you'd like to see included in the cookbook. This was going to be, I think, a Christmas gift to everyone but we didn't start in time. Maybe next year, if we start now. Want to take this opportunity to say to Mike and Edie that your presents for me and the family arrived safely, and were inspired! Thank you sooooo much. We're gathering at Jody's tomorrow to hang out, feast, and tear up her house. Just kidding Jody. But to all youse guys not coming tomorrow - John and Mike and families, Merry Christmas and I love you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: FOODFOODFOODFOODFOOD Author: michael [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:38:09 12/26/04 Sun I'll have to gather up a couple of Edie's recipes that I particularly like. Edie collects cookbooks and rarely does a dish more than once or twice. A few that have made it into her regular repertoire are the Shrimp fra Diavolo mentioned earlier, the Posole, bacon wrapped dates and bacon wrapped shrimp she made for our Christmas eve party this year. I know the bacon wrapped stuff she got out of a Martha Stewart magazine and I think the Shrimp fra Diavolo is from "Cook's Illustrated". I don't really recall much in the way of specifics about the food of my childhood. Probly it was too traumatic and I've blocked it out (JK);) I do recall all of us sitting at the big round table, each in our place and saying grace, and I recall the battles over peas or spinach or brussel sprouts or the evil veggie of the moment. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]