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| Subject: Premier of Newfoundland bans the Maple Leaf Flag | |
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] Date Posted: 16:15:45 12/24/04 Fri The Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, Danny Williams, is so outraged at the Canadian Federal Government over a disgreement about revenues from offshore oil that he has ordered the Canadian Maple Leaf flag taken down from all Provincial Government buildings in the Province indefinitely, leaving only the Provincial flag (which is also a horror) and the Union Jack flying. Perhaps I should write to him - he could be an FC ally, and perhaps I could encourage him to put the Canadian Red Ensign in its place? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
| [> Subject: This leaves both Quebec and Newfoundland not flying the Pearson Pennant | |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:16:47 12/24/04 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:30:40 12/24/04 Fri This is odd. This would seem to indicate that the Maple Leaf flag is more a symbol of the Canadian Federal Government, than the nation itself. I would not expect this. Is this a widely held view? Perhaps he never liked the flag in the first place, or is there a seperatist movement there also? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:47:09 12/24/04 Fri Newfoundland does have a separatist movement, but it's very small. This province is very British and proud of the monarchy and the Union Jack. The Premier ordered this as a protest against the Federal Government of Canada. The maple leaf flag in Newfoundland is seen as the flag of the federal government rather than the nation. Newfoundlanders tend to associate more with the Union Jack. They also feel short-changed by Ottawa. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ben.M(UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:34:55 12/24/04 Fri Have you got a link to any news service that has an article about this? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ben.M(UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:36:38 12/24/04 Fri Don't worry, I've found it. http://www.gov.nf.ca/releases/2004/exec/1223n02.htm [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:18:08 12/25/04 Sat Here is the article in the Toronto Star which is more detailed and quotes Premier Danny Williams: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1103842213436 Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams' Government is Conservative - the same party that opposed the flag change to the Maple Leaf in the 1960's. He has a majority government in the Provincial Legislature. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Not a mention of it on BBC News... (news.bbc.co.uk) | |
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Author: Roberdin [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:56:50 12/24/04 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: That is no surprise - the BBC completely ignores Canada | |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:06:43 12/25/04 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: I sent an e-mail to Premier Williams telling him about us | |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:54:08 12/25/04 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Gomac [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:55:23 12/27/04 Mon MAybe you should write to him and get newfoundlanders writing to newspapers calling for Newfoundland to leave Canada and join the UK. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Gomac [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:57:00 12/27/04 Mon If one province does it, the rest of Canada may follow. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:32:54 12/28/04 Tue ... but, frankly, given that Gibraltar, Malta and half a dozen other places have applied for incorporation within the UK and been denied, I can't see HMG accepting Newfoundland and Labrador into the Union. Indeed, even if they asked I doubt that Messers Blair and Brown would understand them, since Newfoundlanders have the most bizarre accent in the English-speaking world - after British Zambians and Keralans, of course. Still, it would be something, wouldn't it! N&L petitioning to join Britain and being accepted! Half our work would be done, since the principle of the non-geographical state would be born: "as it was in days of long-ago, and as it still shall be..." [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:31:41 12/28/04 Tue Of course, as things stand, it would only mean that Spanish fishing trawlers would come and fish Canada's Atlantic coast dry... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:23:48 12/28/04 Tue Here is a list of the all of the registered independence movements in Canada. Perhaps I should write to all of them outside of Quebec telling them about us. The Western Canada Concept — Movement dedicated to building an independent nation of Western Canada. Alberta Independence Party — Party which advocates the independence of Alberta under certain circumstances. British Columbia Separatist Movement — Seek independence for the province. BC Sovereignty — Advocate independence of British Columbia. The Republic of Alberta — Dedicated to the secession of Alberta. The Newfoundland Patriot — Advocate independence of Newfoundland and Labrador. Ontario Independence League — Advocate independence of Ontario. Parti Quebecois - separatist party in the Quebec National Assembly. Bloc Quebecois - separatist party in the Canadian Federal Parliament. Mouvement de libération nationale du Québec (MLNQ) — They seek independence for Quebec, the predominantly French-speaking province of predominantly English-speaking Canada, mainly to try to prevent their assimilation into the larger English-speaking world. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:38:55 12/28/04 Tue In 1934, Western Australia voted 2 to 1 to leave the Commonwealth of Australia and become a separate dominion of the British Empire. HMG in London said that it couldn't accept such a move unless HMG in Canberra was in favour of it. Which it wasn't. If it didn't work 70 years ago, it's hard to imagine it working now. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |