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Subject: They'll have to ban free speech through the "federal" commonwealth too | |
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] Date Posted: 17:47:29 12/05/04 Sun In reply to: Matt 's message, "Lol" on 17:45:24 12/05/04 Sun Because not everyone wants to be part of some stupid empire ruled from London. p.s. If you check, my IP is not the same as "Matt"'s - sorry! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Well actually if you read the site its not about an Empire Ruled from London | |
Author: Matt [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:35:09 12/06/04 Mon Its about an equal partnership of countries [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: And... | |
Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:33:33 12/06/04 Mon It was even an equal partnership of countries before the War. The phrases "in no way subordinate" and "fully autonomous nations within the British Empire" appear in a certain rather famous document of 1930. Had you tried to tell a Canadian in the 1930s that he was ruled from London and he would laugh. Mind you, this reminds me of an amusing thing which I read some time ago. The American ambassador to Ottowa - a man, it seems, who shared the 1930s American delusion that the Empire was a coherent and homogenous unit even in peacetime - asked a Canadian chap in 1939, just before the Polish crisis, about Canada's constitutional position. I can't remember the exact words except for the final reply, but it went something like this: "If England were to go to war, would that mean that Canada had to go to war?" says the American. "Certainly not!" replies the Canadian, mildly affronted. "But," the American goes on, "if England went to war, would Canada go to war?" "Of course," says the Canadian. "But why?" "Well, you see, we'd sort of have to..." And if that doesn't give you hope for the FCS, nothing will! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Canadian Embassies | |
Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:41:53 12/06/04 Mon Actually, there were no Canadian embassies until 1944. Up until then, we had diplomatic missions, which were subordinate to the British Embassies. Most business in the 1930's usually went through British embassies. A Canadian diplomatic mission was opened in Washington in 1929, but it was upgraded to full Embassy status in 1944 (probably because of the war) - it was our first foreign embassy. Ofcourse, we had High Commissions in Commonwealth countries, which were opened at that time. Today, in my Canadian passport, there is a line that if I needed help in a foreign country which did not have Canadian diplomatic representatives, it advises me to go to the nearest British consulate. This is encouraging. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Jolly good | |
Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:56:02 12/06/04 Mon But this was an American in Canada, not a Canadian in the USA. And the details in my recounting of this story may be innacurate - it was something I read years ago - but the conversation is about right. I am glad to hear of the addendum in your Canadian passport. Come to Venice and look at the plaque on the Consulate here. It advises British citizens in what circumstances they should address themselves to the consulate, and says underneath "In the absence of Commonwealth diplomatic missions in the city, Commonwealth citizens are advised that the above information applies to them also." Bravo. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Canadian Embassies officially represent Australians in a number of African countries | |
Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:20:48 12/06/04 Mon And, I must say, it gives me a very good feeling to know that our governments work together on that level. Isn't it a ridiculous inefficiency having British, Canadian, Australian and New Zealand Consulates in the same cities? Trade missions make good sense, but we should all be able to use each other's consulates anywhere. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Passports | |
Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:31:58 12/06/04 Mon Can any of the Australians/Canadians tell me if your passports have the same statement on the inside front cover as ours? It states: "Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty, all those whom it may concern, to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary." [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: mine says... | |
Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:56:37 12/06/04 Mon "The Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia, being the representative in Australia of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, requests all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer, an Australian Citizen, to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford him or her every assistance and protection of which he or she may stand in need." [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:22:08 12/07/04 Tue It remains shocking that Britain is now the only Commonwealth country without a blue passport. Makes me want to froth at the mouth, or, more practically, do what I have done, which is to go down to Smythsons on Bond St and buy an original-style blue and gilt passport cover (without, of course, the phrase "European Union" at the top). I recommend it to everyone and they even sell online! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Canadian Passports | |
Author: Andrew(Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:47:05 12/07/04 Tue 'The Secretary of State for External Affairs Canada requests, in the name of Her Majesty the Queen, all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without hinderance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.' This, along with the French translation is on the inside front cover. As well, on the back cover, it states 'In countries where there is no Canadian office, application may be made in an emergency to the nearest British diplomatic or consular office.' Nice to know that at least on our passport they acknowledge our connection. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I'm sorry to say that mine says nothing about using Brit, Canuck or Kiwi consulates | |
Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 01:00:26 12/07/04 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: How about? | |
Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:59:00 12/07/04 Tue This... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Replace 'Commonwealth Of Nations' with 'Federal Commonwealth' and it would be perfect | |
Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:20:28 12/07/04 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yep... | |
Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:21:39 12/07/04 Tue However, this was a suggestion for a current passport holder, prior to the creation of the FC - mainly to get that bleedin "European Community" or whatever it is called today, off my passport. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |