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Date Posted: Thu, 02/20/03 1:57pm
Author: sunny
Subject: Re: Wanting to check
In reply to: bow 's message, "Re: Wanting to check" on Wed, 02/19/03 6:39pm

Some really wise words you've posted here, Bow .... you've gone a goodly way on the path yourself, I'd say :o)) .... and from my experience I think you're right -- folks around us will mirror back at us those things we most need to know about ourselves if we just learn how to listen ....

sunny

----------------------------
>hey bro ugly, can we call you Ug for short
>...hahah ...just kiddn...:).
>Yes it is goot to ponder. and yes, everyone of us is
>in da proverbial boat by ourselfs. cuz thats just the
>nature of traveling on the path you ponder'n about.
>Unless you got a dog, he's yer best buddy so's he may
>be in da boat wit ye. :)
>
>And yes, people usually know us better'n we know
>ourselfs, cuz they is look'n at our actions more'n
>just what we say. Maybe they don't vocalize it often,
>but inside they nose us pretty goot better'n us
>ourselfs.
>
>It is goot to go back and see yer people. Not
>neccesarily because they is famly, but cuz the land on
>which we's born is a revitalizing force. And it is
>goot to know yer language.
>My parents use to tell us when we was young'uns, that
>our parents are the only real relatives we'll
>ever have. And it seems to be true.
>
>One never knows everything there is to know about our
>heritage, one is always a werk in progress. Its goot
>to hang out with other tribes and talk, but it's best
>to know yer own peoples' ways first, cuz thats yer
>foundation. and you know what a goot foundation can do
>for future learning.
>
>This is a puzzling statement, " I don't understand how
>people who want to learn can't just come right out and
>say this is totally different from my Christian
>rearing and i don't understand...... instead they fear
>what I try and help with and they believe I am other
>than I am."
>
>what I don't understand is: are you asking this
>question or did someone else ask you this based on
>what you say you're trying to help them with???
>
>In my experience in Re to ndn ways, I try to follow a
>thought that an old guy said once in ceremony, and
>that is, " we as ndns are not the type that trys to
>convert others to our ways,.... if someone is meant to
>be here(ceremony), then somehow they will be here."
>
>If one trys to convert people to a way of thinking
>that you think is goot for them, then of course people
>are going to rebel...cuz nobody wants to be thought of
>as lost.
>That is a Christian thought process in Re to non
>christians, from my experience anyway, and that
>smacks of religion. as far as i know, ndns aren't
>religious. :)
>
>well sounds like yer doin sum thinkn there ol hump.
>its goot to do that every once in awhile.
>There are ways to ponder those issues of life, either
>by yourself or with members of yer family.
>
>nobody is an expert, we all need to bounce things off
>others we trust and whose opinions we value. because
>they are our mirrors, they reflect whom we are and
>vice versa. And because, they won't try to bs us, cuZ
>they would wantta help us unnerstand.
>
>as i mentioned in a earlier post, the fireplace is a
>goot teacher. and tahwodih said cherokees dance close
>to the fire only if they earn the right. so maybe you
>know bout that since you're cherokee/sim ... like i
>said, nuthing can replace a goot foundation.
>aho

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