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Date Posted: 08:43:19 06/01/03 Sun
Author: David
Subject: Re: Food in Traininig
In reply to: Ann M R 's message, "Food in Traininig" on 05:55:51 06/01/03 Sun

Hi Ann,

I think you are right, of course, in that most dogs can tell the differences between exercises and certainly have no issue with food from the handler's hand. And I believe that food refusal is a pretty easy exercise to teach.

However, I think there could be potential problems with using food as a place marker on the ground and the loose food you will encounter later at the higher levels.

I have no actual experience with this, so someone's actually done it, please jump in.

Missed you at the PSA trial. I certified as a decoy and worked the trial yesterday. Lots of fun and a lot of similarities to Mondioring.

See you on Thursday.

David


>David wrote:
>
>>Food is a great motivator, but you may find it a
>>problem later on when you have to introduce the food
>>refusal exercise and, of course, there is loose food
>>on the field at the higher levels.
>
>Hi David,
>
>I used to think the same thing, but I have spoken to a
>lot of folks with years of experience that use food
>(i.e. Schh tracking) yet also have their dog trained
>for food refusal as a poison proofing measure so they
>won't get poisoned while on the job. They all claim
>that the dog comprehends it is a diffent excercise or
>situation.
>
>This is a subject that really interests me as the
>breed I ultimately love is the Rottweiler. (The
>Malmonster I work now is actually a Rottie in a Mal
>body!!! But I digress.....) I am convinced that if
>you take a good working rottweiler, given
>rewards of food and challenge of a fight, you can get
>them to do anything. I want to get a Rott pup to
>raise for Schutzhund and maybe also do MR with it. I
>will most likely use foood and Kongs as rewards, but
>as I say, it is something I am still learning about.
>
>Playing the Devil's advocate, couldn't the same
>argument be made for "toy/object" rewards? If for
>example, I use a tug or tennis ball for the jump
>placement, would that give him the idea he can now go
>and grab whatever distractions are out there? This is
>a problem I am having now with my Mal that needs to be
>broken if he is going to do MR. He wants to grab
>anything lying around on the field, and this will
>definitely cause problems later in MR.
>
>BTW, I am just tossing these ideas out for discussion,
>as I really don't know the correct answers.
>
>See you at the Empire Trial,
>Ann R.

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