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Subject: Some people are nuts!


Author:
Lynn7
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Date Posted: 23:47:43 10/15/02 Tue
 This (these) sniper(s) in DC is something so freaky that I can't imagine what life is like in that state. I heard on the news tonight that a woman was killed in a Home Depot parcade while with her husband (last night?). The only positive thing to come out of that murder is that there is a partial licence plate. I hope that the FBI finds this SOAB soon, real soon.

Our little town had a shock today. A postal worker who was laid off yesterday took some people hostage at the postal outlet. Uhmm, maybe get a little original???? Sorry, I couldn't help it. It's still awful. He is apparently too young for a pension and too old to likely find another job. It is kiddy corner to our office building and I actually phoned my mother in law at 5 PM, after I'd heard about it, to make sure that she knew of the possible danger..LOL That's something (sorry, private joke there). The latest news is that gun shots were fired and that one person was killed and that the gunman killed himself but nothing has been confirmed on our local news. I still don't know what has happend. I told the girls NOT to come out of the dance building tonight until they saw one of our vehicles. It was Holly's ballet class tonight but Sydney wanted to go watch her. It makes you nervous knowing that there were only a few streets inbetween the other incident and a happy time at a dance class that will produce sore feet for Miss Holly. I was afraid to take them. Seriously afraid because of the news about DC!

All I could think of was DC this evening. It's all I could think of and I live 3-5,000 KMs away for sure. We've only experieced a postal worker going postal. We haven't anything similar at all to deal with wondering if you are going grocery shopping and going to end up dead because of it. But it concerned me all this way away from that state.

I just don't get it. I don't understand why a person could randomly shoot, to kill, such innocent people.

Does anyone think it's related to Al Quaida? Or do you think it is a mass murderer at work?
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[> Subject: Re: Some people are nuts!


Author:
Pam
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Date Posted: 00:32:36 10/16/02 Wed
I have no ideas on who's responsible for the snipings. If it's terrorist related, no one's jumping forward to claim responsibility, which isn't "normal" for terrorists.

If I were going to guess, I'd say it's someone young, early 20's. Has fantasies of being either in law enforcement or the military, but for some reason can't get in. Has devoted years learning marksmanship and tactics, and has recently suffered some sort of psychotic break (possibly along the lines of "they think I'm not good enough to be one of them? I'll show them how good I am!")Probably a police wannabe, since the victims are all extremely normal civilians, all doing normal day to day things, shopping, pumping gas etc. A military reject would probably be choosing people that are somehow more military related than these people were.

Guess I actuall DO have an idea about who's responsible, huh? LOL
[> [> Subject: FBI material


Author:
Lynn7
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Date Posted: 01:04:01 10/16/02 Wed
You've got that figured out! You should get yourself to the FBI. I never would have thought of it that way but it makes sense. I was thinking a terrorist.
[> [> Subject: After the fact


Author:
Lynn7
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Date Posted: 19:16:55 10/27/02 Sun
Re-read your response here. If these two guys are really the snipers I think you could have found them long before the police did.

[> Subject: It doesn't make any kind of sense.....


Author:
Kimmy
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Date Posted: 00:44:18 10/16/02 Wed
I just can't imagine what his or whoever's agenda is by all this killing. No pattern, no rhyme or reason, not a whole lot to go on. I really feel for the people living in DC having to be afraid to go to the Home Depot or gas up their car!!!! The parents afraid to take their children outside to enjoy the day or just have recess. I just hope and pray that they catch the sicko doing all of this real soon!!! That kind of fear is heartbreaking to watch on the TV let alone endure.
[> [> Subject: No, it doesn't


Author:
Lynn7
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Date Posted: 01:13:29 10/16/02 Wed
That's strange, I posted to this and it's not here. Hmm.

There is no rhyme or reason to these shootings. They are too simple. People doing everyday things. The shooter wants people to be afraid of simple everyday things.

It is heartbreaking watching the news. Just innocent victims doing everyday life things.
[> Subject: That is the reason


Author:
JeffF
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Date Posted: 09:31:57 10/16/02 Wed
You just said it, Lynn. The killer wants people to be afraid of everyday things.
I live five minutes away from the plaza with the Home Depot, where the murder took place Monday night. I go frequently to that plaza. It is a different feeling for me than the other murders, because it is a place I know so well. Don't get me wrong. All of the murders were horrifying and sickening, but this is personal. My area was invaded. I dry my clothes at the plaza right across the street. I use the Barnes and Noble, Starbucks, and Michaels in the plaza where the murder took place.
It is most likely an ego trip for the creep. He is getting his power from 1. Causing all the fear in the neighberhood and 2. Thinking he is smarter than the police, since he hasn't been caught. This may trip him up in the end, since his ego may get too big. It's happened to other serial killers. This time there were some witnesses and that may help. The sooner they catch or shoot the guy the better.
Things are definitely tense around here. I tutor a twelve year old girl at a community center on Tuesday nights, where there are also other tutors and students. Getting everybody inside immediately is a priority and voices are much sharper than usual. A different girl asked me right out if I was afraid of the sniper, and you want to be careful how to answer that, keeping a balance between being honest and making sure the kids don't take unnecessary actions and not frightening them out of doing anything. Most outdoor activities have been cancelled for kids for the last few weeks.
This had a big effect on my other volunteer activity, my once a month work with retarded kids. This takes place at a church with two great playgrounds and it's very confusing to retarded and autistic kids who are used to being able to run out to the playground, not to be able to go there. It was the right decision, but it's not easy to enforce or to explain and it takes a lot of patience.
These are just a couple of examples. It's been a balance between living life as normally as possible and taking sensible precautions when possible. Beyond the fear is an anger smoldering here. The families and friends of these victims have had their lives changed forever in one sick instant. There is an understandable fury.
[> [> Subject: Too close for comfort


Author:
Lynn7
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Date Posted: 10:39:27 10/16/02 Wed
How terrible to be so close to it! Not to mention the people that you volunteer with must be confused. I don't know much about retardation but friends of ours have a son who is autistic (sp?) and routine is such a big part of their life and keeping things steady for him. I would imagine that if this is the case with those kids they must be awfully confused.

Be safe.
[> [> Subject: Re: That is the reason


Author:
Glenn
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Date Posted: 11:21:28 10/16/02 Wed
Some info here on survival techniques.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/sniper.htm
[> [> [> Subject: Thanks, Glenn


Author:
JeffF
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Date Posted: 14:35:05 10/16/02 Wed
A lot of these are very good!
[> [> Subject: Saturday


Author:
JeffF
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Date Posted: 11:26:47 10/16/02 Wed
We were able to use a small enclosed courtyard at the church to give the kids some fresh air(there are both retarded and autistic kids there) but we had to block off the entrance to the playground from the courtyard, since that is not enclosed. Kids who wanted to get to the swings or the jungle gym were terribly confused and would sometimes try and run in that direction. I am hoping by November 9th when the next Parents Day Out comes, he'll have been caught and we can get back to normal.
You are correct about routine and how much it means to these kids.

But, it's not just the retarded kids. The kids who are tutored on Tuesdays have the day off for a parent-teachers conference today and are not going to be allowed to do much outside of their houses. Tanesha, the twelve year old I tutor was unusually cranky last night and begged me if we could stop so she had something to do today. That's desperation when kids are begging to save homework to have something to do, since they can't play in their usual areas.

It is very hard for parents, teachers and others to find the right balance right now. You hate to let this guy disrupt people's lives, but safety has to come first.

Thanks for your post and your concern.
[> Subject: Update


Author:
Lynn7
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Date Posted: 00:31:48 10/21/02 Mon
Long and short is that the guy who had the gun was NOT a postal worker. I tried posting earlier and it didn't work...arggh.

He was a government worker but in the Oil, Land and Gas Ministry (or some name like that). My husband was supposed to take highway asphalt sample papers this past Tuesday to one of the men who were shot. He had talked to the one guy a few days before the murder/suicide. The one man is held up as a societal wonderman. Very into the community and helping others. I'm glad my husband ended up being too busy to drop those papers off on Tuesday (when the gunman opened fire) but I'm very sad for the families without husbands, sons, uncles, etc. Two men killed then the gunman turned the gun on himself. For what??????
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