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Date Posted: 01/14/06 1:09:21pm
In reply to:
pjk
's message, "Re: my fly brain" on 01/13/06 4:11:12pm
>...but on second look General Dynamics partners with
>ROK!
>
>Ran across this:
>
>http://www.publicintegrity.org/pns/db.aspx?act=cinfo&co
>id=961941531
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>(What happened in 2003?)
>
>And this:
>
>http://www.publicintegrity.org/pns/list.aspx?act=top
>
>ROK coming in at a mere 61 of the top 100 with a
>paltry 1.7 billion in contracts.
>
Please don't take this as "defensive", because I wouldn't apologize for a defense contract, only if we cheated on it.But I should probably clarify your facts:
Rockwell International, a huge conglomerate of aerospace, defense contractor (planes and more), semiconductors, truck parts, science center, and aeronautics (Collins - flight control, etc.) purchased Allen-Bradley around 1986 to get more into the commercial sector with ABs automation business. Along the way, Reliance Electric was purchased - they make motors and motor controllers for industry. Reliance was about the same size (revenues) as AB. Since then, and I don't remember the exact years, the aerospace was sold to Boeing, semiconductors was spun off as conexant, meritor was spun off (trucks), Rockwell Collins was spun off, science center mostly divested. Rockwell International, having essentially become AB+Reliance changed the name to Rockwell Automation, and kept the ROK stock symbol. So, although it all happened well before 2003, it must be the year that your source of information stopped reporting the combined spending under ROK. I imagine Rockwell Automation (with Reliance being the majority) gets about the less than $1M dollars reported for 2003 (although that seems way low to me - $1M is not exactly a lot of money - but maybe we just don't sell what they're buying) - I'd like it to be a lot more! I'm sure we sell a lot to the companies that are making what they're buying.
>So now the following question just popped into my
>brain:
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>1) Discretionary pentagon budget 2005: $401.7 billion
>(probably a few billion larger with unlisted items);
>
>2) Jobs are filled and taxes are levied with that
>money;
>
>Not snark: Do you think public schools benefit the
>more we spend on the military?
yes and no. no because we could certainly transfer the tax dollars more efficiently if desired, and yes if you believe that more tax money available is going to improve schools (which is an unproven proposition at best).
>Do you think teachers
>benefit, too, if military contractors are in their RS?
>
If the milirary contractors are making profits, then absolutely.
>Perhaps put another way, could schools and teachers
>and anyone else who receives or provides government
>services benefit if some of the money that went into
>the Pentagon were invested in other areas, biomass,
>for example? Just asking.
yes.
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