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Subject: And yes again


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Kyla
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Date Posted: 06:37:05 01/27/03 Mon
In reply to: Cassandra 's message, "Re: Passion and Private Emails in a Public Place" on 15:07:34 01/26/03 Sun

Cassandra, that is such a rich statement! I just wanted to say a big "yes" to it first. Before responding in any detail at all.

And, I love your poem.

You said:
>And the big question, it seems to me, is how in hell do we move out of this chessboard existence into the incredibleness of what is? How can change really occur, and not just a rearrangement of the pain? <

Funny, but to me that "moving out" is the whole of what is happening here, and the stages and steps and the intricate movements and processes are our Sacred Dance. That moving out is also a moving in. And, forgive me, but isn't contrasting "this chessboard existence" with "the incredibleness of what is" another version of the either/or?

Or am I missing something here?

What I perceive is all the movement and the interpenetration among the levels, with each one of us an absolutely unique expression of the infinite variability of individuated Onlyness.... Crystallizations of patterns and complexes and habits and qualities and characteristics infused with that un-pin-downable Living Breath, always shifting and penetrating and retreating.....

>I think what it amounts to is pain tolerance. Maybe we have to get to the place where we hurt so much that we are willing to let go of these safe and familiar ways of being and risk the terror of the mystery, the unknown, whole other ways of being...<

Surely pain is one of the major ways we experience change and are motivated to cooperate with or resist it. But, is the question really "pain or not-pain?" Or, is there more going on than that?

Or, to put it another way, why posit that the pain is what makes us willing to let go and change, or even that there is a chosen holding on and resisting of change? That strikes me as unnecessarily punitive, in fact. Because -- what if -- what if all we can ultimately do is receive and explore these experiences and allow them their course? And learn to trust the process and stop trying to speed it up to get somewhere with it..... And, in the "meantime", take all the space and soothing for our pain that we can find.....

Which is exactly what it sounds like you are doing, really.

And, lest I give the wrong impression, I totally honor your urgent impulse to " get somewhere with this."

Dang! Where's that Kate when we need her!?!? ;-)

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