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Vince
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Date Posted: 08:20:26 06/07/04 Mon
In reply to:
Donald
's message, "Re: Challenge to Donald" on 05:32:07 06/07/04 Mon
Donald said: "I was just looking to see if you agreed that there was something distinctly modern and secular, or 'de-mystified', about the magic in Harry Potter, but instead I got all this guff about ivory towers and attacks on 'academics'. It reminded me about the way that you had admitted that have not read any Watchtower books before writing your critiques and frankly I was annoyed by your smug attitude."
Where on earth you get the connection between HP and WT books is beyond me, or how my attitude to these scholars has anything at all to do with the fact that I have not read, from cover to cover, a whole WT book.???
Also, why on earth are you so defensive about these scholars? Even if I was dismissive of them what is that to you? I get the impression that you are holding on to things you want to fire at me personally and will take any opportunity, regardless of the discussion, to do this.
Donald said:"...can I ask at least that you will stop these personal attacks and unprovoked distortions of what has happened in the past.
!!!!!!!! Pot, Kettle, Black, comes to mind here Donald.
I will remind you Donald that it is ‘you’, not I, who initially embarked on a public and personal attack against me here. I am responding to what you originally said against me. Remember that. So if you can't take it back then don't give it in the first place. You originally said:
Donald: "Essentially his argument has nothing to do with your apologetic agenda and I find it astonishing that you would dismiss his view so out of hand. You have not even read the article. Then again you have probably not read Harry Potter either, whereas the author of the article had. I must admit I have only read the first book, but I guess that is still more than you. But this should come as no surprise to me, after all your whole web site is a collection of other people's opinions on various books and subjects; an assortment of quotes from books you have never read."
I rightly expressed my anger at this false and personal remark. I also asked you how on earth am I able to read an article that you hadn’t even bothered to reference correctly? When all is said and done, you have said the above things to put me down Donald and you know it in your heart. Even though I gave detailed reasons for why I have not read a whole WT book right through in my two recent posts to you, you ‘still’ say in your most recent post:
Donald: "It reminded me about the way that you had admitted that have not read any Watchtower books before writing your critiques and frankly I was annoyed by your smug attitude."
So I see that you are ‘still’ intent on beating me with this Donald? Even though that conversation was an honest conversation between you and I (or so I thought)? And you have the audacity to tell me that I am being personal against you?!!!!!
Do you just think you can come to my forum, try and put me down personally? Debate is one thing, but you have lost all respect and now seek to go against the person.
If I were you Donald, I would be thankful that even though you persist in calling into question my integrity here (for that is what you seem to be wanting to do around the internet lately), I have decided, for your sake, not to list here the large file of the contradictions of belief’s you have with the Watchtower society, from your secret dealings under the pseudonym “Ruler of the World”. I have it all categorized with a compare and contrast of things you have said under your own name. So think carefully about calling into question my personal character and integrity. Pull another stunt like this and you will have a reminder of some of the things that you said (public ally remember, not over the phone as I did to you in confidence, and which you seem to want to smear through the mud!) under the “Ruler of the World” title. It is also to your advantage that I have not followed your example of revealing details of phone conversations here and made known public ally some of the things you have said.
I don’t know if you have read my other post entitled “Pre-Empt” but I would urge you to read it as it is addressed to you and contains things you really need to understand.
As far as I am concerned, we have got nothing more to say until I have an apology from you. And I certainly do not have the time to be involved in such red herring discussions as this.
I for one am happy to apologize to you about calling the HP scholars people who sit in ivory towers, as this has offended you so greatly. It would be nice to get an apology from you in return.
Regards to you,
Vince
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