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Date Posted: Thu, Apr 22 2004, 18:11:57
Author: MKIceman
Subject: Re: Errrr.... have I missed something, or am I just blind AND stupid?
In reply to: SomeKindOfBlue 's message, "Errrr.... have I missed something, or am I just blind AND stupid?" on Thu, Apr 22 2004, 17:16:08

>You make the point, several times, that the GAFF
>boarders have devolved to something not only
>flame-PRODUCING, but flame-ENCOURAGING, even.

I apologize for the confusion. I stated this in a thread of its own (i.e., no responses) a while ago, which seemed to be the last of this issue until it was raised again in this thread. I am not commenting on each and every board member, nor even the majority. My comments are directed at a few who happen to be the most vocal on the boards. Here is an excerpt from that post:

"No, I'm not speaking of every single participant of the GAFF fora, but I am referring to the loudest sentiment expressed within the GAFF fora (which may not necessarily reflect the majority, but it's still what's heard and seen above all else)."

>when that was. I don't) I've only seen all-out FLAMES
>when in response to flames. Now, I don't agree with
>the "fight fire with fire" mentality behind that, but
>from my point of view it means that flames are only
>used by these boarders as a very last resort when
>simple snark (the purpose of this boards existance -
>correct me if I'm wrong) or (more or less) calm reason
>just won't make the troll go away.

I don't agree with the "fight fire with fire" mentality, either. But I was not referring primarily to flaming trolls (especially since the GAFF board was designed for both agreements and disagreements with GAFF). I was referring primarily to the board members who flame badfic authors directly and unprovoked, and not in response to flames.

>I thought this board was here to mock badfic? to snark
>at really horrible badfic? If I am mistaken, here,
>PLEASE let me know, Site Guru.
>Or are we flaming the badfics when we post them here,
>pointing out the badness/silliness of them? Because,
>you see, that's all I've seen happening on this board.
>(Bar the counter-flaming of flaming trolls.)
>
>MKIceman, can I please have your definition of
>"Flame", and why you think this board has taken such a
>turn towards the flamer mentality? 'Cause I just don't
>see it. And I've been scared off of plenty of
>flame-happy boards in the past, so I find it weird
>that no little warning bells have started to ring...
>before this whole debate, that is... :(

I define "flame" as a personal insult, or remarks (usually derogatory, mostly unfounded, always irrelevant) made about the recipient's personal life.

My first discussion on flames was in the "Ho!mione gets raped" thread on the InvisionFree board, in which I openly disagreed with flames sent to the author of that story.

--Matt

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