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Date Posted: Fri, Apr 16 2004, 18:00:15
Author: gkscotty
Subject: Re: This all sounds frighteningly like
In reply to: elaine22459 's message, "Re: This all sounds frighteningly like" on Fri, Apr 16 2004, 15:52:22

>So yes, I guess a canon character can be a Mary Sue
>(or a Marty Sam in this case.)

Mary Sue is just a fanfic term for a self-insertion - a character who is representative of the author, their avatar. So naturally all kinds of writers can and do write self insertions and they do not only occur in fanfic.

Increasingly a lot of people are referring to poorly-designed OC's as Mary Sues. (for example the person later in this thread who says they have made six Mary Sues but none of them were based on the author.) Technically this is wrong - unless the character is based on the author, either deliberately or subconciously, it's NOT a Mary Sue.

I am of course arguing about semantics here, but it's worth rememebering to avoid confusion. (such as the "can MS occur in canon?" question.) The sins of "creating a Mary Sue" and "creating a poorly-thought-out OC" are of course equal and tend to cause the same problems.

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Gotta argue with you there. -- Gloria, Sat, Apr 17 2004, 4:50:26
- Re: Gotta argue with you there. -- gkscotty, Sat, Apr 17 2004, 6:46:48
  - self insert =/= mary sue -- Sol 1056, Sat, Apr 17 2004, 18:46:48
    - Re: self insert =/= mary sue -- Mad Katharine (AKA Raptor Red), Tue, Apr 20 2004, 1:09:31
    - Re: self insert =/= mary sue -- Mad Katharine (AKA Raptor Red), Tue, Apr 20 2004, 1:10:16
      - Whoa, what just happened there? -- Mad Katharine (AKA Raptor Red, Tue, Apr 20 2004, 1:21:58
Re: This all sounds frighteningly like -- Stinkerbelle, Sat, Apr 17 2004, 16:33:03
- Re: This all sounds frighteningly like -- gkscotty, Sat, Apr 17 2004, 17:05:30
- Re: This all sounds frighteningly like -- MST Meg, Sat, Apr 17 2004, 17:44:52
- Re: This all sounds frighteningly like -- Catseye, Sun, Apr 18 2004, 21:42:05

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