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Date Posted: 19:12:18 06/02/02 Sun
Author: EVG-Kyriakin
Author Host/IP: 62.7.76.10
Subject: When have any of the England players regularly played on the left of midfield? Joe Cole - No. Owen Hargreaves - No. Heskey - Sort of, but he's shit there. Paul Scholes - No. Ashley Cole - No. Wayne Bridge - No. Dyer - No. By your system, where only full-time left wingers can play left wing, we have nobody. Are you suggesting we don't bother with a left-winger? When Vassell had the ball on the left he looked like he could beat a player or too, which is more than you can say for Heskey. Oh, and go fuck yourself...
In reply to: tactics 's message, "Heskey might have been shit but at least he's played in midfield before. You can't put Vassel there you fucking idiot - when has he ever played left midfield???. You sound exactly like one of the "johnny come latelys" who you're slagging off. Really we need to get rid of Ericson and his prehistoric long ball tactics. We missed Gary Neville desperatley. Hargreaves was poor for 70 minutes - lets hope Nicky Butt is back againat Argentina and at least that might free up Scholes. But like I say - if we play like Wimbledon circa 1985 then we may aswell have no midfielders. Ericson out." on 18:38:23 06/02/02 Sun


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[> [> [> Heskey played on the left handside of a 4 man midfield. This is a position he's played before for England and also many times for Leicester City. I don't think it was the right decision but then I don't rate Ericson's style so no surprise there. Vassel is a good player but he's an out and out forward you goon. You are talking total shit - if you want a tactical argument try and come up with something decent. Personally, with the squad we've got (assuming 4-4-2) I'd play Bridge at left back and put Ashley Cole in midfield. Not perfect but Ericson has picked a bad squad. -- tactics, 19:25:21 06/02/02 Sun (62.6.101.59)


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[> [> [> [> Whatever. The main point I was trying to make is that Heskey definitely shouldn't play on the left wing. Personally, I think Vassell has the best transferable skills to play in that position, but Ashley Cole could certainly do a job of sorts there too. -- EVG-Kyriakin, 19:33:49 06/02/02 Sun (62.7.76.10)


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[> [> [> [> [> Well you're entitled to your opinion but to suggest playing Vassel in midfield just seems bizarre to me. Thing is we can only go with the players available - if Ericson is going to persist with his long ball game then surely he has to change the front two. I think Vassel may miss out in the next game (not his fault - he did well today considering) in favour of Heskey and Owen. Argentina will not get caught out by a long ball up to two small forwards - they play too deep defensively. The only way to beat them is to pass the ball from midfield to the flanks or run at them with pace. -- tactics, 19:44:42 06/02/02 Sun (62.6.101.59)


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[> [> [> [> [> Cole could do "a job of sorts" !!!!!!!!!! Eh ? Can you not get Sky TV down there or something? Have you never seen Ashley Cole play for Arsenal? I'm sorry but you are way off the mark if you think putting Vassel in midfield ahead of Cole is a good idea. -- onlooker, 13:53:20 06/03/02 Mon (210.242.164.150)


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[> [> [> Oh and do try and keep up. Heskey was not playing as a "winger". We don't play with wingers - we have no wingers in the squad - we've never had a team based on two wingers for years. He played in midfield because we haven't taken enough midfield players and the ones we have are mostly injured. Do you watch much modern football or do you mainly stick with Exeter City? -- tactics, 19:31:12 06/02/02 Sun (62.6.101.59)


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[> [> [> [> I call the right and left sided midfielders 'wingers'. I don't give a shit if they play deep, or try to get to the by-line, they're still fucking wingers to me. -- EVG-Kyriakin, 19:37:22 06/02/02 Sun (62.7.76.10)


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[> [> [> [> [> Well thats OK - but its total rubbish. I'm trying to have a reasoned debate here but you kkeep stamping your feet like a babby. Come on - are you England or what?? Lets have some sensible suggestions please. If you aren't capable then move over and let someone else have a go. -- tactics, 19:47:38 06/02/02 Sun (62.6.101.59)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I never realised my posting on here stopped others from doing so. You're the first person in my 3 years on this board who hasn't replied to one of my posts with 'fuck off you posh twat'. 'You fucking idiot' and 'you goon' are much less annoying. That said, you could try to argue against somebody's opinion, without resorting to personal insults. And I certainly wasn't the only one in the pub who embraced the idea of Vassell running in from the left. But hey, what do us carrot-crunching Devon bumkins know about football anyways.....? -- EVG-Kyriakin, 22:39:44 06/02/02 Sun (62.7.75.131)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> fuck all by sounds of it. i bet u any money vassel does not play midfield next game. bridge and cole is more like it down left. so fuck off u posh twat. -- nipper, 23:28:21 06/02/02 Sun (210.242.164.150)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> you sound like a right tit. -- <>, 09:36:42 06/03/02 Mon (195.219.41.46)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> bumkins ? -- Blakey, 13:11:55 06/03/02 Mon (195.219.41.46)


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[> [> [> [> [> i wouldn't call david beckham a winger. I think your argument is a bit flimsy. -- Falsgrave Seadog, 19:59:09 06/02/02 Sun (213.123.43.204)


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[> [> [> [> [> do you call the right and left sided defenders 'wing backs' then ? -- asd, 20:21:32 06/02/02 Sun (195.219.41.46)


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